Re: pata_serverworks hangs

2007-11-13 Thread Krzysztof Oledzki
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Krzysztof Oledzki wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Alan Cox wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:29:17 +0100 (CET) Krzysztof Oledzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just tried to switch from old IDE to libata but unfortunately kernel (2.6.22.10) hangs during boot: ata1: PATA

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the listing of the open bugs that are relatively new, around 2.6.22 and up. They are vaguely classified by specific area. (not a full list, there are more :) The good part is that reporters of the bugs

Re: [PATCH 8/13] au1xxx-ide: add ide_toggle_bounce() calls

2007-11-13 Thread Sergei Shtylyov
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: Add ide_toggle_bounce() call to -ide_dma_on/-dma_off_quietly methods so they match generic __ide_dma_on()/ide_dma_off_quietly(). Since there is no PCI device there should be no functionality changes caused by this patch. Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej

Re: [PATCH 6/13] sgiioc4: add ide_toggle_bounce() calls

2007-11-13 Thread Sergei Shtylyov
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: Add ide_toggle_bounce() call to -ide_dma_on/-dma_off_quietly methods so they match generic __ide_dma_on()/ide_dma_off_quietly(). Cc: Jeremy Higdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acked-by: Sergei Shtylyov [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH 7/13] icside: add ide_toggle_bounce() calls

2007-11-13 Thread Sergei Shtylyov
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: Add ide_toggle_bounce() call to -ide_dma_on/-dma_off_quietly methods so they match generic __ide_dma_on()/ide_dma_off_quietly(). Since there is no PCI device there should be no functionality changes caused by this patch. Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Jens Axboe
On Tue, Nov 13 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: I/O STORAGE=== kernel bug from pktcdvd http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9294 Kernel: 2.6.23 I think we might have fixed this. It's fixed and merged, I just forgot to close the

Re: [PATCH 12/13] ide: move drive-using_dma check to callers of -dma_host_on method

2007-11-13 Thread Sergei Shtylyov
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acked-by: Sergei Shtylyov [EMAIL PROTECTED] MBR, Sergei Index: b/drivers/ide/ide-dma.c === --- a/drivers/ide/ide-dma.c +++

Re: [PATCH 1/13] serverworks: cleanup -set_dma_mode method

2007-11-13 Thread Sergei Shtylyov
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: IDE core guarantees that -set_dma_mode will be called only for DMA modes set in SWDMA/MWDMA/UDMA masks. There should be no functionality changes caused by this patch. Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index:

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Jarek Poplawski
On 13-11-2007 12:15, Andrew Morton wrote: ... Zero responses from developers ... No response from developers ... Andreas did some work, seemed to lose interest. ... Rafael poked Thomas a week ago, to no effect. Thomas has been travelling. Looks like very reproducible! Maybe you should add

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:39:46 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:15:53 -0800 NETWORKING=== RTNLGRP_ND_USEROPT does not report ifindex (IPv6)

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread David Miller
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800 Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate? Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps? I guess I'm just masterbating here all night long with the 46 bug fixes I've reviewed fully and

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800 Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate? Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps? That

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread David Miller
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:12:59 -0800 On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800 Do you believe that our response to bug reports is

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate? Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps? That doesn't answer my question. See, first we need to work out whether we have a problem. If we do this, then we can

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Albert Lee wrote: After an error condition, some ATAPI tape drives set DRQ=1 together with ERR=1 when asking the host to transfer the CDB of the next packet command (i.e. request sense). This patch workarounds the problem by ignoring the ERR bit and proceed REQUEST SENSE. Signed-off-by:

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't boot (ARM, Timer) http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9229 Kernel: 2.6.23 No response from developers ..

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and that is our QA answer, which is a _good_ answer but by far

Re: [PATCH] sata_nv: fix ADMA ATAPI issues with memory over 4GB

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Tejun Heo wrote: Robert Hancock wrote: Tejun Heo wrote: .. Yes, it should likely do something with these return values. Though theoretically it shouldn't fail, since the DMA mask is either 32-bit, which shouldn't fail, or one that was successfully set before. Also I don't think the SCSI layer

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Mark Lord wrote: .. NAK. There's no guarantee that the next command after an error will always be REQUEST_SENSE. Or is there? I think we should just ignore the ERR bit when DRQ is set for PACKET command. Period. Possibly only for tape drives (since they all seem to do this), and maybe not

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. .. Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 Kernel: 2.6.23 This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM No

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
NAK. There's no guarantee that the next command after an error will always be REQUEST_SENSE. Or is there? For that device over ATAPI I believe the guarantee is there, the same as for SCSI. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-ide in the body of a message to

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Nov 13, 2007 12:15 PM, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the listing of the open bugs that are relatively new, around 2.6.22 and up. They are vaguely classified by specific area. (not a full

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and that is our QA answer, which is a _good_

Re: [PATCH] Add quirk to set AHCI mode on ICH boards

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
What I'm worred about is SMI traps implemented in the SBIOS for AHCI workarounds that may be disabled when in IDE mode. For Nvidia devices those would only be present if there were problems with the AHCI hardware right, which would mean you could simply tell us what workarounds to implement.

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
pata_pdc202xx_old excessive ATA bus errors http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9337 2.6.24-rc2 No response from developers Untrue. We've been discussing it on list in the past and its now on bugzilla. Not obvious from outside I realise. That one I'm afraid is probably a longer

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 03:15 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: SCSI== qla2xxx: driver initialization does not complete when booting with Port connected http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9267 Kernel: 2.6.23.1 No

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Benoit Boissinot
On Nov 13, 2007 3:08 PM, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Ray Lee
On Nov 13, 2007 7:24 AM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a long time kernel tester, I see some problem with the newer new development model. In the short merge windows, after to much time, there are to many patches. I think the root issue there is that it's hard to get all

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't boot (ARM, Timer) http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9229

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. .. Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and that is our QA

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Benoit Boissinot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For debugging, maybe it's time someone does an amazon ec2+s3 service to automate the bisecting and create .deb/.rpm from git, I don't know how much it would cost though. a few months ago i estimated the costs of this and it's just a few

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:40:29 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote: * Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate? Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps? That doesn't answer my question. See, first we need to

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:57:54AM -0800, Ray Lee wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 7:24 AM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a long time kernel tester, I see some problem with the newer new development model. In the short merge windows, after to much time, there are to many patches.

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo-ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I know this isn't a lkml problem but more a distro problem, but I would

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Alan Cox wrote: NAK. There's no guarantee that the next command after an error will always be REQUEST_SENSE. Or is there? For that device over ATAPI I believe the guarantee is there, the same as for SCSI. .. Even for SG_IO w/o requesting sense data? - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:33:21 -0600 James Bottomley wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 03:15 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: SCSI== qla2xxx: driver initialization does not complete when booting with Port connected

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
The other an automated set of standard pre-built bisection points so that testers can more easily localize a bug down to a few hundred commits without needing to learn how to use git bisect (think Ubuntu users). Before that you want a flowchart or instruction list of boot options to try. A

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Larry Finger
Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo-ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I know this isn't a lkml problem but more a distro

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Jan Kara
FILE SYSTEMS=== ext4: delalloc space accounting problem drops data http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9329 Kernel: 2.6.24-rc1 No response from developers Actually, there has been a response (Eric asked in mailing list and

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly bisect build bugs via a simple shell command around git-bisect

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't boot (ARM, Timer)

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo-ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I know

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:15:53AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLATFORM=== xipImage is built so that uBoot cant run it (ARM)

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:24:45 -0500 Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox wrote: NAK. There's no guarantee that the next command after an error will always be REQUEST_SENSE. Or is there? For that device over ATAPI I believe the guarantee is there, the same as for SCSI. ..

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:07:21PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 12:50 -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we

Re: [PATCH] libata: workaround DRQ=1 ERR=1 for ATAPI tape drives

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:24:45 -0500 Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox wrote: NAK. There's no guarantee that the next command after an error will always be REQUEST_SENSE. Or is there? For that device over ATAPI I believe the guarantee is there, the same as for

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs. I for one wish I'd never *VOLUNTEERED* to be a part of the kernel bugzilla, and really *WISH* I could pull out of that function. You can. Perhaps that

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:18:43PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Where do you get this number from? $ du -sh .git/objects/pack/ 249M.git/objects/pack/ $ du -sh .git/objects/ 253M.git/objects/ ie about half what you claim. -- Intel

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Matthew Wilcox wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Where do you get this number from? $ du -sh .git/objects/pack/ 249M.git/objects/pack/ $ du -sh .git/objects/ 253M.git/objects/ ie about half

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work. But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable. .. Definitely useful, no question. But the problem is now that kernel devs are addicted to

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Matthew Wilcox wrote: ie about half what you claim. .. No, it's from earlier in this very thread: Adrian Bunk wrote: git clone \ git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git .. mkdir t cd t git

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Matthew Wilcox wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: mkdir t cd t git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git (wait half an hour) /usr/bin/du -s linux-2.6 522732 linux-2.6 You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: I'm very encouraged to read of your expanded testing efforts. As a bcm43xx developer, Ubuntu has been our problem distro, mostly because your standard kernels have debugging turned off for bcm43xx. When a Ubuntu user reports a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Gabriel C
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros (gentoo-ubuntu) and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work. But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable. .. Definitely useful, no

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work. But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable. ..

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: .. Another point is that it shifts the work from the few experienced developers to the many users. Users (and voluntary testers) we have many, but developer time for debugging bug reports is a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work. But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:32:07AM -0800, David Miller wrote: Luckily if the report being ignored isn't chaff, it will show up again (and again and again) and this triggers a reprioritization because not only is the bug no longer chaff, it also now got a lot of information tagged to it so it's

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 08:30:35PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: There is this silly limit that noone can work more than 168 hours per week on the Linux kernel, and some kernel developers seem to take the liberty of spending even less time on kernel development... That limit of 168 hours applies

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:26:05PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: .. Another point is that it shifts the work from the few experienced developers to the many users. Users (and voluntary testers) we

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:46:49PM +, Russell King wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 08:30:35PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: There is this silly limit that noone can work more than 168 hours per week on the Linux kernel, and some kernel developers seem to take the liberty of spending even

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Larry Finger
Theodore Tso wrote: Heh. I hadn't enabled CONFIG_BCM43XX_DEBUG myself, but I just changed it for my next kernel build. This is a slightly different issue, which is that sometimes _DEBUG options shouldn't be turned on by default (because they really trash performance and bloat log size),

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote: ... There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one of the biggest problems with bugzilla. Virtually no one in the ARM community looks

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:26:05PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: .. If you've been making significant updates to a driver/subsystem, and people are reporting that it is now broken for them, What are significant updates? Sometimes one person makes one small patch and this patch

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Russell King wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: Ingo Molnar wrote: .. This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means

[PATCH] sis5513.c: Add Packard Bell EasyNote K5305 to laptops

2007-11-13 Thread Gabriel C
Hi, With newer kernels HDD in my old laptop is limited to UDMA 33. With this patch I get UDMA 100 again. Signed-off-by: Gabriel Craciunescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- diff --git a/drivers/ide/pci/sis5513.c b/drivers/ide/pci/sis5513.c index 6b7bb53..3878224 100644 --- a/drivers/ide/pci/sis5513.c +++

[PATCH] pata_sis.c: Add Packard Bell EasyNote K5305 to laptops

2007-11-13 Thread Gabriel C
Hi, With newer kernels HDD in my old laptop is limited to UDMA 33. With this patch I get UDMA 100 again. Signed-off-by: Gabriel Craciunescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- diff --git a/drivers/ata/pata_sis.c b/drivers/ata/pata_sis.c index 3b5be77..87546d9 100644 --- a/drivers/ata/pata_sis.c +++

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one of the biggest problems with bugzilla. Virtually no one in the ARM community

[PATCH] it821x/jmicron: fix return value of {it821x,jmicron}_init_one()

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- drivers/ide/pci/it821x.c |3 +-- drivers/ide/pci/jmicron.c |3 +-- 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) Index: b/drivers/ide/pci/it821x.c === ---

[PATCH] ide: remove stale/incorrect comment from setup-pci.c

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- drivers/ide/setup-pci.c |5 - 1 file changed, 5 deletions(-) Index: b/drivers/ide/setup-pci.c === --- a/drivers/ide/setup-pci.c +++ b/drivers/ide/setup-pci.c @@

[git patches] IDE fixes

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Contains cmd64x regression fix from Sergei + some minor fixes. Please pull from: master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bart/ide-2.6.git/ to receive the following updates: drivers/ide/Kconfig |4 drivers/ide/cris/ide-cris.c |3 +-- drivers/ide/ide-io.c|

Re: [PATCH] pata_sis.c: Add Packard Bell EasyNote K5305 to laptops

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:38:47 +0100 Gabriel C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, With newer kernels HDD in my old laptop is limited to UDMA 33. With this patch I get UDMA 100 again. Signed-off-by: Gabriel Craciunescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acked-by: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan - To unsubscribe

Re: [PATCH 12/13] ide: move drive-using_dma check to callers of -dma_host_on method

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Sergei Shtylyov wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: Signed-off-by: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acked-by: Sergei Shtylyov [EMAIL PROTECTED] MBR, Sergei Index: b/drivers/ide/ide-dma.c

Re: [PATCH 1/13] serverworks: cleanup -set_dma_mode method

2007-11-13 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Sergei Shtylyov wrote: [...] Index: b/drivers/ide/pci/serverworks.c === --- a/drivers/ide/pci/serverworks.c +++ b/drivers/ide/pci/serverworks.c @@ -164,25 +164,12 @@ static void

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Romano Giannetti
I jump in this discussion hoping to have some more insight on git and to report my experience as a tester. I consider myself as half-literate in this (I am here since 1991, more or less, and I am able to compile a kernel and even hand-apply a patch, although I am in no way a kernel programmer).

Correct behaviour of an ATA/ATAPI CD Drive

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian McMenamin
I am writing a driver for the GD Rom on the SEGA Dreamcast. This could, loosely, be described as an ATAPI device - it's registers correspond closely with those in the ATA3 specification but it has proprietary packet command interface (the SPI which is only partly reversed) similiar but quite

Re: Correct behaviour of an ATA/ATAPI CD Drive

2007-11-13 Thread Alan Cox
Anyway, to cut a long story short, when a command goes wrong, the get sense packet command does not seem to generate an end of event interrupt and as a result the command times out (after 60 seconds in my driver) but the correct sense key is then returned on a read of the Data register.

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Tuesday, 13 of November 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Matthew Wilcox wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: mkdir t cd t git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git (wait half an hour) /usr/bin/du -s linux-2.6 522732

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:33:58 +0100 Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 November 2007 15:18:07 -0500, Mark Lord wrote: I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc* kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own machine, and

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Frans Pop
Romano Giannetti wrote: This was what I did in my (in the end almost successful) bisecting when trying to find the mmc problem (see the thread named 2.6.24-rc1 eat my SD card). This is true in theory, but it has some problem. The this commit does not compile is the easiest and in man

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Jörn Engel
On Tue, 13 November 2007 15:18:07 -0500, Mark Lord wrote: I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc* kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own machine, and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch, generally all within a

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one of the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Jörn Engel wrote: On Tue, 13 November 2007 15:18:07 -0500, Mark Lord wrote: I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc* kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own machine, and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch, generally

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Jörn Engel
On Tue, 13 November 2007 13:56:58 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: It's relatively common that a regression in subsystem A will manifest as a failure in subsystem B, and the report initially lands on the desk of the subsystem B developers. But that's OK. The subsystem B people are the ones

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:25:16PM +, Alan Cox wrote: Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs. I for one wish I'd never *VOLUNTEERED* to be a part of the kernel bugzilla, and really

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:24:14 +0100 Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 November 2007 13:56:58 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: It's relatively common that a regression in subsystem A will manifest as a failure in subsystem B, and the report initially lands on the desk of the

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:32:01PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:13:19PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote: ... There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one of the biggest

Re: [stable] [PATCH] ide: fix serverworks.c UDMA regression

2007-11-13 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:25:41PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Monday 15 October 2007, Tony Battersby wrote: The patch described by the following excerpt from ChangeLog-2.6.22 makes it impossible to use UDMA on a Tyan S2707 motherboard (SvrWks CSB5): commit

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Lord
Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-13 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:29:54 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:13:19PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote: ... There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the classic case

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