Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2002-12-17, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so, one of the

Re: openoffice

2002-12-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Amir Tal wrote: Hi Amir, See my comments below. I suggest that you move this discussion off linux.org.il and onto [EMAIL PROTECTED] (See http://www.openoffice.org.il for majordomo registration instructions). installed

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
Would that be the best thing happened to open source in israel in 8 years? Or would RMS just use it again to show how much he dislike israel? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Dvir Volk
Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example: http://www.stallman.org/good-fences.html)

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
well I guess it changed a bit from the intreview of his. too bad I didn't keep the link it was long ago. but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 18 Dec

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 12:38, Dvir Volk wrote: Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example:

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 12:47, Ely Levy wrote: well I guess it changed a bit from the intreview of his. too bad I didn't keep the link it was long ago. but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This already happened to me

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
It was HIS words that what interview means:P he had some good ideas and he had some bad ones. I also remember some people from gcc getting upset on him Some gnome people as well. and reading what he said and what people said in general doesn't leave me with too good impression. anyhow no one is

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 13:40, Ely Levy wrote: It was HIS words that what interview means:P As someone who has been interviewed by media a couple of times for various reasons I can tell you that there is a difference, sometimes quite big and sometime very small, between what you actually say and

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This must be pretty recent. He was in Israel a few years ago, and refrained from saying anything related to Israel's policies in my presence.

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:25:16PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. The link to

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Apparently this was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention January 9th. Looks like that will be more closed event. Or did I missed something? Yes, the site does mention 9/1 at IBM, and so does the

GNOME 2: How to place the OK Button on the Right and the CancelButton on the Left

2002-12-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi good people! When I use GNOME 2, the most annoying thing is that in OK/Cancel dialogs the OK button is placed on the right and the Cancel button is placed on the left. Like this: [Cancel] [OK] However, from Windows, KDE and GNOME 1.x I am already used for them to be the other way around:

A Linux/Win Machine question

2002-12-18 Thread Orr Dunkelman
I was wondering whether anyone here had stumbled upon the following case: I have a laptop, which will run WinXP and Linux. I want that a very large portion of the hard disk will be accessible to RW by both the systems and that this partition will be encrypted (CRYPTO-FREAK!). FAT32 would answer

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
On 18 Dec 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This must be pretty recent. He was in Israel a few years ago, and refrained from saying anything

Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
sure lets act like spinless people in order to please the great RMS, how about changing it to RFC (RMS fun club?) if it's for his honor great, if it's to please him so he would agree to see us btw oleg the part about we going to contact RMS so don't overflow him and then saying that if only

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
shhh first politics and now religion? this mailing list been a great linux place cause we avoided this kind of subjects no good comes out of them. let it keep for other lists:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002,

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't flamebait, I don't know what is :) Let's not

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Dvir Volk
RMS is Jewish or at least his mother is. Hmm... At least we can now be sure that they won't give him any trouble entering israel, huh? http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=240135contra ssID=2subContrassID=13sbSubContrassID=0

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Eli Marmor
Responses to Dvir/Ely/Shlomi: Dvir Volk wrote: Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example:

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Uri Bruck
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread linux_il
OK, let's start a religious war: VI sucks. (Just kidding :-) -Original Message- From: Uri Bruck If you gonna start a religious war, might as well have religion somewhere in it... :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to

Novel RMS Questions, anyone? (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)

2002-12-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Ely Levy wrote: oh and one last idea, How about asking him for an interview for whatsup? something in slashdot style where people send questions and he get to answer the few more asked ones. I think that would make a lot of people happy. Beside the political questions,

Re: Novel RMS Questions, anyone? (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)

2002-12-18 Thread Amir Tal
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 19:43, Omer Zak wrote: if there will be enough people who want to participate in such an interview (send questions that they want to ask, that is) I'll be more then happy to do the job, translate everything and post the answers to the site for everyone's use.

clone hard disk

2002-12-18 Thread kfir lavi
hi, i have 2 computers with the same hard disks. the 2 have ntfs on them. i wont to put them together in the same computer and copy one to the other. can i do it with tomsrtbt linux on floppy, and use the dd command. if it will work - will you be kind to suggest the command param - like dd

Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG

2002-12-18 Thread Amir Tal
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 20:40, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: btw oleg the part about we going to contact RMS so don't overflow him and then saying that if only 10 people can you meet him then all the rest should wait for whatever, it sounds kind of bad.

Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
ok I have 2 to offer, 1) about whats her name law offer to prevent goverment from buying non opensource things 2) About what he think should be done to push linux in israel and solve the hebrew problem which stop so many people from using it. 3) What people can do to push linux into the

XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Amir Tal
--Boundary_(ID_cXO4Po6uRhx8xjFxviW3ow) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT OK, now I'm really pissed ! its been like 3 hours now, that i am trying to get over this problem, and its like obvious that one of you geniuses will see the config file and the

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 20:50, Amir Tal wrote: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue This option is redundant, to say the least - CorePointer will suffice. SendCoreEvents is used if you want

Questions to RMS (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)

2002-12-18 Thread Omer Zak
Meanwhile I thought about questions to RMS. 1. What is RMS' exact position about software which is burned into ROM and put into an instrument/device/appliance? Should the customer have access to the source code and to a means for replacing the software? 2. What if the ROM mentioned in (1)

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Omer Zak
If you can spare a partition in your hard disk (or, better, if your hard disk/s are in removable drawers), then you can make a fresh minimal Debian installation in the spare partition. Once the fresh installation is working, copy the XF86Config-4 created there to your regular installation. If

raid home solution.

2002-12-18 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Hi all, I am thinking about doing a raid thingie at home. is there a raid home solution for 2 80gb h.ds that also works with linux. if not, then windows. when i say home solution, i mean affordable. currently i have a 40gb and have a weekly,monthly,daily script that backups important documents

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Amir Tal
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 21:15, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 20:50, Amir Tal wrote: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue This option is redundant, to say the least -

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Omer Zak wrote: If you can spare a partition in your hard disk (or, better, if your hard disk/s are in removable drawers), then you can make a fresh minimal Debian installation in the spare partition.Once the fresh installation is working, copy the XF86Config-4 created

Re: Questions to RMS (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)

2002-12-18 Thread Amir Tal
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 21:06, Omer Zak wrote: OK, so far i have questions from omer and eli. keep sending them in, and I'll create a final list of questions, and post it here for your approval. tal. Meanwhile I thought about questions to RMS. 1. What is RMS' exact position about

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Omer Zak wrote: If you can spare a partition in your hard disk (or, better, if your hard disk/s are in removable drawers), then you can make a fresh minimal Debian installation in the spare partition.Once the fresh

Re: XFree issues

2002-12-18 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:37:04PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Omer Zak wrote: If you can spare a partition in your hard disk (or, better, if your hard disk/s are in removable drawers), then you can make a fresh minimal Debian installation in the spare partition.Once