which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread shlomo solomon
Hi, I'm a bit confused about the naming of kernel sources and I'd like some help before I screw something up. I want to compile 2.4.20 instead of the existing 2.4.19-16mdk on my MDK 9.0. I don't usually run after the **latest** kernel, but in this case, I still haven't been able to get my TV

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, shlomo solomon wrote: Hi, I'm a bit confused about the naming of kernel sources and I'd like some help before I screw something up. I want to compile 2.4.20 instead of the existing 2.4.19-16mdk on my MDK 9.0. I don't usually run after the **latest** kernel, but in this

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread shlomo solomon
On Friday 10 January 2003 11:49, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, shlomo solomon wrote: kernel-linus2.4-2.4.20-1mdk.src.rpm This is an unpatched kernel tree . So it won't have the supermount patch BTW - I also found kernel-source-2.4.21-pre2.1mdk.i586.rpm and it's 34 mega

RE: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Yakov Broido
Hi, The reason for the change of size in: 27440693 Jan 10 09:10 kernel-linus2.4-2.4.20-1mdk.src.rpm 33963814 Jan 9 20:17 linux-2.4.20.tar.gz Is because this RPM has .bz2 in them and not tar.gz, and since .bz2 compresses better than gzip , that why you have the difference in sizes. Besides that

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:32:01 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote Hi, I'm a bit confused about the naming of kernel sources and I'd like some help before I screw something up. I want to compile 2.4.20 instead of the existing Which TV card do you have? are you absolutly sure it's not inside the

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread shlomo solomon
On Friday 10 January 2003 11:15, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: Which TV card do you have? are you absolutly sure it's not inside the Mandrake kernel? I have a FlyVideo2000 - saa7130 chip (not bt848). There is a module in the MDK 9.0 kernel, but it's not working for me. I wrote a few days ago to the

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Shay Elkin
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:32:01 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: kernel-linus2.4-2.4.20-1mdk.src.rpm Aside from the strange name (why is Linus' name in the kernel name?), Because this is how the Mandrake folks name the packages containing an unpatched verisons of the kernel. The kernels patched by

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm a bit confused about the naming of kernel sources and I'd like some help before I screw something up. I want to compile 2.4.20 instead of the existing 2.4.19-16mdk on my MDK 9.0. I don't usually run after the **latest** kernel, but in

mandrake and kernel

2003-01-10 Thread Ely Levy
To whomever wanted the 2.4.20 version of mandrake's kernel you might want to try the rpms for the new 9.1beta1. btw it also has kde3.1rc6 and gnome 2.2 pre much like redhat 8.1beta. I just hope they copyed the font installer from redhat. gnome 2.2 greatly improve the support for hebrew in widgets

Re: mandrake and kernel

2003-01-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: mandrake and kernel: BTW: the new NPTL from Red Hat (on this beta) is really cool... (but it sucks that you cannot change language - you change once, you cannot change back... grrr...) Ah? NPTL is the new Native POSIX Thread Library for

Re: mandrake and kernel

2003-01-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Ah? NPTL is the new Native POSIX Thread Library for Linux. In what sense is it cool? And what does NPTL have to do with languages??? Someone showed me some performance tests on NPTL compared to standard threads (I see it also when I compile KDE CVS), the speed is indeed impressive... It

a little bit of penguin fun from IBM

2003-01-10 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
These animations feature penguins. A lot of penguins. One of them also has a couple of portraits on the wall that you might recognize. Enjoy. http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/fun/index.html -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is nothing more practical than idealism. [Richard

Re: which kernel sources

2003-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 12:45:29PM +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: On Friday 10 January 2003 11:49, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, shlomo solomon wrote: kernel-linus2.4-2.4.20-1mdk.src.rpm This is an unpatched kernel tree . So it won't have the supermount patch BTW - I

Re: A comment on GNU/Linux

2003-01-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
Oleg, I sort of scanned your E-mail. And I agree the GNU project originated with many tools that have made Linux possible. In fact, most of the basic components are part of the GNU project. But still not all. Furthermore, GNU is a collective name for a lot of individuals. Stallman itself did not

Re: A comment on GNU/Linux

2003-01-10 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 07:52:26PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Oleg, I sort of scanned your E-mail. And I agree the GNU project originated with many tools that have made Linux possible. In fact, most of the basic components are part of the GNU project. But still not all. Furthermore, GNU

FOSDEM 2003

2003-01-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
Free Open Source Developers Europe Meeting, 8th-9th February in Brussels. http://www.fosdem.org/ Anyone is going? Gabor @ Israel.pm = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Book libraries existed and nobody thought that paying $10 a year for a library subscription (when one book costs more than that) was cheating the

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good idea. Nadav, with your permission I would like to put that up on Hamakor. Under Nadav's name, I hope, not as a part of Hamakor's position. Right. I

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery: I also agree with some things that RMS says. I do disagree with his ideas about freedom though on a vary basic level, but I will only discuss that over some free beer. ;-) On this list it would be

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-10 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: preaching for freedom as he does. I hope the new amuta will stress technical issues rather than ideological ones. I hope the amuta will replace your rather than with an as well as. The Amuta's name has free software and open source, right? Let's

Re: A comment on GNU/Linux

2003-01-10 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg, I sort of scanned your E-mail. Why don't you read it, then? You'll see that I mention original authors other than RMS, and my real point is that Linux should *not* be called GNU/Linux, even though to me it sure looks like GNU is a big part of it. Oh,

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sat, 11 Jan: I don't know what your basic disagreements are (I guess I'll have to buy you a beer to find out :)) I think Oleg has put it very clearly in a post here, he's against the basic ideals of freedom, and therefore the fact that they are objectively