VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS or ESX). Link: http://news.com.com/VMware+to+make+server+product+free/2100-1012_3-6034615.html?tag=nefd.top Thanks, Hetz To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS or ESX). So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I wish VMWare would open up the code under a GPL compatible, then we could really

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 13:23 +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS or ESX). So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I wish VMWare

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread guy keren
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Gilboa Davara wrote: So? free is not open.Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I wish VMWare would open up the code under a GPL compatible, then we could really have fun :-) Cheers, Muli Last time I checked, with no hardware VT extensions, Xen cannot run

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I read a bit more. They won't release the GSX product as a freeware, but actually will release something which will be called VMWare Server which is something quite similar to GSX. So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I wish VMWare would open up the code under

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Last time I checked, with no hardware VT extensions, Xen cannot run Windows. Am I wrong? No, Xen does require VT (or AMD's SVM) to run Windows. But VT enabled processors are now available, and SVM will be available soon. Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org |

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
You can't run Windows from Xen today, unless you either have an engineering sample of Intel's Core with VT enabled (the shipping version has VT disabled, and that includes the new Apple ProBook or the new IMac), or you're willing to wait few months until Intel will release the 'enabled'

Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Ori Idan
I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular user from gdm and got a message System bootup in progress after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. I tried logging in without X (Ctrl-Alt-F1) when logging in as root, got the same message and password prompt and

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Baruch Even
Ori Idan wrote: I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular user from gdm and got a message System bootup in progress after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a file /etc/nologin, this

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: VMware for free: That's wrong, people have been able to buy VT enabled processos. Even if they are scarce, pretty soon (weeks, a few months at most) they'll be available everywhere. For the clueless among us (like myself), can you please

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 06:47:55PM +0200, Ori Idan wrote: I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular user from gdm and got a message System bootup in progress after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. I tried logging in without X (Ctrl-Alt-F1) when

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 07:18:24PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: For the clueless among us (like myself), can you please say a few words, or recommend a link, about what is this VT, and what does running windows have to do with it? You got me curious. Briefly: the Intel x86 architecture is

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 18:01 +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: You can't run Windows from Xen today, unless you either have an engineering sample of Intel's Core with VT enabled (the shipping version has VT disabled, and that includes the new Apple ProBook or the new IMac), or you're willing to

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:39:53AM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: I doubt that we'll see VT/Pacifica going into full swing before 07. (Especially on AMDs, as AMD just started to port Xen to support Pacifica) Xen includes SVM support. You need SVM HW which is not generally available yet, but

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday, 3 בFebruary 2006 19:08, Baruch Even wrote: Ori Idan wrote: a message System bootup in progress after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a file /etc/nologin, this message is shown when you try to login

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Ori Idan
Oron Peled wrote: On Friday, 3 בFebruary 2006 19:08, Baruch Even wrote: Ori Idan wrote: a message System bootup in progress after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a file /etc/nologin, this message is