Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Ira Abramov, from the post of Thu, 30 Nov: All Hypothetical... well, it was a little white lie, if you didn't suspect :-) After double checking my legal status in any case, it turns out I am not under NDA at the time of this writing, but will be by the end of the day, so I'll say this

Re: scam ?

2006-12-13 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
Sendsms is still alive and kicking - but only with the Orange site. On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Wait, that script is working again...? It stopped working 2 years ago! -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901

File version

2006-12-13 Thread Michael Sternberg
Hello everybody. Is it any way to attach a verion number to executable file ? In Windows right click - properties - Version style ? Maybe as output of file command ? Of course I always can implement -v or --version switch to my executable, but do we have something more standard ?

Re: File version

2006-12-13 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Michael, There is no way to attach any properties to any file in Raiserfs, ext3 and most of the other file systems in common use in Linux. But you can embed the version designator in the file assuming that you build it using a compiler. Define a static string like String Version = Version

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Ira Abramov, from the post of Thu, 30 Nov: All Hypothetical... well, it was a little white lie, if you didn't suspect :-) After double checking my legal status in any case, it turns out I am not under NDA at the time of this writing, but will be by the

Re: Hebrew in gvim

2006-12-13 Thread ik
Hi, What is the encoding of the Hebrew text file ? On my vimrc (I do not use gvimrc) I made the following statement: set fileencodings=utf-8,ucs-bom,iso-8859-8-i,iso-8859-8,iso-8859-1 Please note that if your text file does not contain BOM ( Byte Order Mark) Vim (and any other text editor)

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:26:46 +0200 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They manage 1 and 2, they have a very good case for claiming that the userspace tool is not a derived work of their kernel space driver, and thus not bound by the kernel module's license. Shachar This goes into

Re: File version

2006-12-13 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
What about: attr - For the XFS filesystem setfattr / getfattr - For other file systems --- Chaim On Wednesday 13 December 2006 13:06, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Hi Michael, There is no way to attach any properties to any file in Raiserfs, ext3 and most of the other file systems in common use

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Usual disclaimers apply. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. Micha Feigin wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:26:46 +0200 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They manage 1 and 2, they have a very good case for claiming that the userspace tool is not a derived work of their kernel

Re: File version

2006-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Michael Sternberg wrote: Hello everybody. Is it any way to attach a verion number to executable file ? In Windows right click - properties - Version style ? Maybe as output of file command ? Of course I always can implement -v or --version switch to my executable, but do we have something

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Peter
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Shachar Shemesh wrote: To my thinking - yes. If you create an interface that is independent of the implementation, no-one using that interface can be said to be derived work of the implementation. Yes, that does mean that the GPL isn't as strong as we may hope/wish it to

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Peter wrote: It's nice to see that you are as polite as ever. Always refreshing to see someone who spends so much time in understanding what others say, and effort in making his objections so elegantly and tactfully heard. The intention is clear: It is indeed. So I think that your thinking is

Re: File version

2006-12-13 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
Here is a nice article on the use of setfattr / getfattr http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/13/1352241tid=113tid=70tid=89 But, as Shachar says, it will not survive packaging or archiving. Chaim On Wednesday 13 December 2006 12:42, Michael Sternberg wrote: Hello everybody. Is

Re: Hebrew in gvim

2006-12-13 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:48:11PM +0200, ik wrote: Hi, What is the encoding of the Hebrew text file ? On my vimrc (I do not use gvimrc) I made the following statement: set fileencodings=utf-8,ucs-bom,iso-8859-8-i,iso-8859-8,iso-8859-1 Please note that if your text file does not contain

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: I offered instead that they write a GPL module that allows access to what they need in the kernel through IOCTLs and move their binary-only blob to userspace. This was acceptable to them and I believe it's the correct legal solution myself (correct me if I'm wrong)

Re: scam ?

2006-12-13 Thread Diego Iastrubni
No Pelephone? No Cellcum? No ICQ? No backfall to Asterisk...? ביום רביעי 13 דצמבר 2006, 11:45, נכתב על ידי Dan Kenigsberg: Sendsms is still alive and kicking - but only with the Orange site. On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Wait, that script is working

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: So much as Linus can speak for the entire gang of kernel copyright holders (and probably even if not because of estopel) Isn't estopel only relevant once you tried to trial such claim and fail? I doubt any such thing has happened (i.e. - a kernel developer trying to sue

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Peter
The purpose of a license is to prevent the visit to a judge. Therefore most of the discussions around licenses elaborated by comitee revolve around what a judge *would* do and not around what he will do. Because the chances to win a lawsuit are directly related to the depth of the parties

Fw: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
Sorry, sent this privately by mistake, linux-il doesn't work with the reply to list option of sylpheed ... Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:52:50 +0200 From: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ethical question.. On Wed, 13 Dec

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
If you DO NOT write plain vanilla C code to Posix libc specs and expect to fully use the advanced features offered by GPL-ONLY licensed extensions to libraries, and distribute binary that links against these, then you are in trouble even if there are 24 different implementations of said

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday, 13 בDecember 2006 11:30, Ira Abramov wrote: the company in question (and those of you who know who they are, know), Has promissed me to solve the issue. the problem was a proprietary kernel module that should have tainted the kernel and recieved a restricted set of symbols, but

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday, 13 בDecember 2006 21:51, Peter wrote: Speaking of sheduler, RTLinux took out some patents on just such a sheduler and restricted RTLinux distribution based on that This is 'solved' in that the RTLinux code is dual licensed. You mixed patents with copyrights. RTLinux code

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Peter
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Micha Feigin wrote: Question is, is it enough that there is one non-GPL implementation I can link against exporting the same API, does this now make the work non-derived of the GPL API? More to the point, does the API fall under the GPL or the results. The answer is:

Re: Ethical question..

2006-12-13 Thread Peter
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Oron Peled wrote: On Wednesday, 13 בDecember 2006 21:51, Peter wrote: Speaking of sheduler, RTLinux took out some patents on just such a sheduler and restricted RTLinux distribution based on that This is 'solved' in that the RTLinux code is dual licensed. You mixed

Re: Hebrew in gvim

2006-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:14:48 +0200 Avraham Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:48:11PM +0200, ik wrote: Hi, What is the encoding of the Hebrew text file ? On my vimrc (I do not use gvimrc) I made the following statement: set