[off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Ira Abramov
my fellow sysadmins - Nezeq just called one of my client offering an upgrade from 5000/500 to NGN 1/800. They say it only takes a sec as their router is compatible. Is it stable and safe by now? should one make the switch? Offlist replies appreciated, though I thought it may be of interested

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Ira Abramov wrote: my fellow sysadmins - Nezeq just called one of my client offering an upgrade from 5000/500 to NGN 1/800. They say it only takes a sec as their router is compatible. Is it stable and safe by now? should one make the switch? If it only

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread shimi
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org wrote: my fellow sysadmins - Nezeq just called one of my client offering an upgrade from 5000/500 to NGN 1/800. They say it only takes a sec as their router is compatible. Is it stable and safe by now? should one

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Noam Rathaus
hi Ira, We recently switched from 2mb/0.5mb to 2mb/2mb everything was promised to run smoothly, but in effect after the upgrade they found out that there was noise on the line and they had to connnect an additional two wires to get it to work After 3 hours I asked to stop the upgrade and put

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Ira Abramov wrote: my fellow sysadmins - Nezeq just called one of my client offering an upgrade from 5000/500 to NGN 1/800. They say it only takes a sec as their router is compatible. Is it stable and safe by now? should one make the switch? We recently upgraded from

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Noam Rathaus
NGN as I understand is mainly for Symetric non-ADSL type solutions - i.e. fiber and SDSL Meaning that 8000/800 is probably still in the ADSL area.. but I might be wrong On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Ira Abramov wrote: my

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread shimi
2009/10/14 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com NGN as I understand is mainly for Symetric non-ADSL type solutions - i.e. fiber and SDSL Not only they have no Symmetric packages offered on their website for the NGN world, all their Asymmetric packages still have ridiculous upstream bandwidth

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi, The NGN site is promotional information and has no relevance to the hardware/equipment so I would take any information written there as promotional and nothing more I don't know about whether or not 3/1000 will even work, but if someone gets that and tries to use that for uploading he

RE: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Andrew Kaplan
NGN is simply FTTC (Fiber to the Curb). At the curb, they put in a DSLAM that converts the fiber to ADSL2+ or VDSL. ADSL2+ is already active on 8mb connections; most of the modems they have been passing out in the last few years are ADSL2+ compatible. ADSL2+ has a maximum of 24mb down /

Re: [off] Bezeq NGN - good or bad?

2009-10-14 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/10/15 Andrew Kaplan akap...@netshack.co.il: NGN is simply FTTC (Fiber to the Curb).  At the curb, they put in a DSLAM that converts the fiber to ADSL2+ or VDSL.  ADSL2+ is already active on 8mb connections; most of the modems they have been passing out in the last few years are ADSL2+