Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: I wrote: The FSF is struggling to regain some semblance of public support after RMS's disastrous FSF boycott of Israel and his comments about Steve Jobs. Do the world a favor and let the FSF die with dignity, instead of being remembered

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot: Amos wrote: Were there echoes of this argument outside Israel? Yes, the hi-tech field is both heavily invested in Israel and populated by Jews. It spread like wildfire even

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread sara fink
Where is the sale? Hours? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Meir Michanie meirgotr...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.riunx.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=yard_sale 1 PC pentium 4 - Ubuntu for a beer pack. 1 PC Celeron 2 - Ubuntu for a beer pack. 1 Book: Pascal by

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread Raz
wow you really love beer ... 2011/10/24 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com Where is the sale? Hours? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Meir Michanie meirgotr...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.riunx.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=yard_sale 1 PC pentium 4 - Ubuntu for a beer pack. 1 PC

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 24, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I obviously don't agree with any of these statements, but it's sad that apparently this is what people think (or at least, search in Google...). Anyway, most of the results of my intended query appear to be Israeli or Jewish sources. It

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 24, 2011, at 3:03 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Oct 24, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I obviously don't agree with any of these statements, but it's sad that apparently this is what people think (or at least, search in Google...). Anyway, most of the results of my

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread Meir Michanie
Petach Tikva, evenings. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:19 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the sale? Hours? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Meir Michanie meirgotr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.riunx.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=yard_sale 1       PC pentium 4 - Ubuntu   for a

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread Meir Michanie
It is an anti-FSF campaign. :) I guess that if it not worthy a beer then it is chunk and I am getting old and attached to material stuff. Cheers. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: wow you really love beer ... 2011/10/24 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com Where is the

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread Mordecha Behar
2011/10/24 Raz razi...@gmail.com wow you really love beer ... Um, because it's free as in... 2011/10/24 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com Where is the sale? Hours? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Meir Michanie meirgotr...@gmail.comwrote:

OT: one's compliment 8 bit checksum

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
I need to calculate a one's compliment 8 bit (not 16 bit, not 2's compliment) checksum. What would be really nice is a C subroutine I can call passing the number of bytes and a pointer to the data. Any license I can use will be ok, I don't plan on distributing it, but if I do, source

Re: OT:yard sale

2011-10-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/10/24 Mordecha Behar mordecha.be...@mail.huji.ac.il: Um, because it's free as in... Right, the expression should be free as in sex. When you have had beer, there is none left for anyone else. When you have had sex, someone else can come along and have some. Also, beer is _expected_ to cost

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.
Either way, I am not going to participate in anything that lends credence to FSF. Quite frankly, at least MS are not openly anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic, or anti 'the bad Jews/Israeli'. Let someone more credible start a petition, and I will surely sign. F-FSF. Z. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:13 AM,

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, Steve G. wrote about Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot: at least MS are not openly anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic, or anti 'the bad Jews/Israeli'. Indeed. I still remember very vividly a meeting held 11 years ago in the ISOC-IL offices, about

Re: OT: one's compliment 8 bit checksum

2011-10-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:20 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: I need to calculate a one's compliment 8 bit (not 16 bit, not 2's compliment) checksum. What would be really nice is a C subroutine I can call passing the number of bytes and a pointer to the data. Any

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.
Shlomi, 1. Thank you for the education 2. I am not trying to negate the validity of their argument (or for that matter to support it). I am saying that I will have nothing to do with them, their drives, their server, and any of their software that is not already provisioned by my distro, unless

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Steve, On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:24:54 -0600 Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote: Either way, I am not going to participate in anything that lends credence to FSF. Quite frankly, at least MS are not openly anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic, or anti 'the bad Jews/Israeli'. Well, from what I

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:37:39AM -0600, Steve G. wrote: Shlomi, 1. Thank you for the education 2. I am not trying to negate the validity of their argument (or for that matter to support it). I am saying that I will have nothing to do with them, their drives, their server, and any of

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 24, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Well, from what I understood, it's just that Stallman in his visit to the Palestinian Authority, complied to the demands of his Palestinian sponsors, and wouldn't lecture at a place that didn't support the boycott of the Israeli academia.

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot: There are plenty of other organizations to support. People's Front of Judea is one. No way, I hate them! I support the Judean People's Front! (If someone doesn't understand the

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.
I thought I got the joke, but was not sure if it was Monty Python, so thanks for clarifying. Now a technical question - wouldn't we still be able to run Linux as a virtual machine under windows? So what's the big deal? Practically all laptops today, and most desktops, come with some flavor of

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Amit Aronovitch
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, Steve G. wrote about Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot: at least MS are not openly anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic, or anti 'the bad Jews/Israeli'. Indeed. I still

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Amit Aronovitch
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:51 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: I wrote: The FSF is struggling to regain some semblance of public support after RMS's disastrous FSF boycott of Israel and his comments about Steve

Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Amit Aronovitch wrote: Sorry for not following up on the legal issues (getting too tired right now), but I thought that Israel was the country that tried to legislate a non-boycott law :-) If US law forbade boycotts, how comes Pepsi or McDonnald's were not