Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Mord Behar
I don't know specifically about the Kaya (I almost got one and am glad that I didn't, because of this). Have a look at CynogenMod http://www.cyanogenmod.org/. The Kaya tablet is not officially supported, but it is, in theory, possible to install the mod on any Android device. Their wiki

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Rabin Yasharzadehe
After trying to fix several cheep/Chinese tablets/phones for my family and friends, i took an oath to never buy a cheap Tablet/Phone ever - just because there is no support. What I can tell you from my experience with this kind of devices, is that you can't trust the name - use an application

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 11:33:07AM +0200, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: After trying to fix several cheep/Chinese tablets/phones for my family and friends, i took an oath to never buy a cheap Tablet/Phone ever - just because there is no support. What I can tell you from my experience with this

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Eli Marmor
By the way (off topic): Does anybody have any experience with generic Android versions? (such as CyanogenMod, which Mord mentioned) We have, in the family, a Sony U which the last Sony Android upgrade screwed it up, and I want to return it to life by installing a generic Android under it. I'm

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Baruch Siach
Hi Tzafrir, On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 10:21:14AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I wonder if propr Linux support is easier to find. At least for some of those. Some of them (AllInWonder, though not MediaTek) have been hitting mainline recently. You probably mean Allwinner SoCs. These are called

[HAIFUX LECTURE] Quick and Dirty Bash -- Eli Billauer

2014-01-05 Thread Eli Billauer
On Monday, January 6th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Eli Billauer: Quick and Dirty Bash Abstract This lecture is a quick and unformal guide to scripts and sophisticated commands in Bash. The aim is to supply the listener with tools to use the command-line interface as

Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
Hi, Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :( Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service? stability\speed Thanks, Miki -- Michael Ben-Nes - Linux Web Environment Expert. http://www.epoch.co.il - LinkedIn

Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: Hi, Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :( Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service? stability\speed If it's 15 megabit or below, you've probably been upgraded to NGN. NGN uses vDSL equipment which can run

Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: Hi, Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :( Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service? stability\speed I forgot to mention that HOT is both an infrastructure provider AND an ISP. You can get one or the other, or

Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread Mord Behar
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: Hi, Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :( Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service? stability\speed I forgot to mention

Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
Veering even further off-topic (sorry) The whole phone-over the internet thing is fairly risky business when you think about it, Bezeq (or for that matter most line providers in most countries) has to by law keep it's lines as available as possible, it provides enough electricity on your phone

Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/5/2014 10:06 PM, Mord Behar wrote: Also remember that HOT uses co-ax cable and not DSL lines, so they really can't give you any kind of assurances as to upload/download speed. It depends on how man people in your area are connected to the cable and how much they are using the internet

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On 01/05/2014 12:22 PM, Eli Marmor wrote: By the way (off topic): Does anybody have any experience with generic Android versions? (such as CyanogenMod, which Mord mentioned) There is not such thing as a generic android version. The amount of propietary crap available on Android devices make it

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Diego Iastrubni elc...@kde.org writes: A sound advice - if you don't see the device you want to buy on Cyanogen's list, don't buy it. In 2 years it will be useles if you cannot put newer software on it. Sounds a bit harsh. A device cannot possibly become less useful with time than it was when

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/6/2014 2:26 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Sounds a bit harsh. A device cannot possibly become less useful with time than it was when you bought it (barring a HW malfunction). If it did then what it says on the tin it will still do it now, won't it? Without any new software... Eventually apps

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Shlomo Solomon
IIRC Android 3 was a tablet only version and the various sub-versions of 2 were/are for phones. That's probably the reason 3 has disappeared, since all the tablet specific stuff was merged into 4. As for apps dying, I agree with Geoffrey, but I would also add that even an app that doesn't connect

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread shimi
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:07 AM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: No manufacturer is updating their Android 2 phones to Android 4, however most Android 4.1/4.2 phones (Jellybean) are giving their owns the option to update to 4.4 (KitKat). That is an interesting claim;

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/6/2014 6:45 AM, shimi wrote: That is an interesting claim; Given that my Galaxy S2, originally running 2.3.4 (Gingerbread), now runs 4.1.2 (Jellybean) with a *stock* ROM from the manufacturer... There are exceptions to every rule, and anyone, myself included who does not say almost, or

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 1/6/2014 6:37 AM, Shlomo Solomon wrote: IIRC Android 3 was a tablet only version and the various sub-versions of 2 were/are for phones. That's probably the reason 3 has disappeared, since all the tablet specific stuff was merged into 4. Thanks, that explains it. I was wondering what

Re: Chinese KitKat

2014-01-05 Thread Eli Marmor
Thank you for your answer! Of course, I know that each device has its own version of Android, and the word generic was an unsuccessful wording; What I meant to say is the original Android from Google, without all the garbage of Samsung/Sony/LG/whatever. So I'll try to repeat my answer: I want