Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-25 Thread Alex Shnitman
Isn't the USB signal differential? I understand that this means that the signal is encoded by the difference between the two data pins (which are connected by a twisted cable pair) rather than by referencing to ground. If that's the case, the ground shouldn't matter for the signal transmission.

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-25 Thread Ori Idan
The signal is supposed to be differential, however there are some devices that take each line with the ground as reference and only then subtract it. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Alex Shnitman alext...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't the USB signal differential? I understand that this means that

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-23 Thread Alex Shnitman
Power on the Raspberry Pi is a tricky business. I think on the B+ they've made it easier to deal with but it still cannot pass through a lot of current. So a powered hub is necessary, as previous posters mentioned. It does indeed backfeed into the Pi. I used thin stripes of electrical tape to

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-23 Thread Ori Idan
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Alex Shnitman alext...@gmail.com wrote: Power on the Raspberry Pi is a tricky business. I think on the B+ they've made it easier to deal with but it still cannot pass through a lot of current. So a powered hub is necessary, as previous posters mentioned. It

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
I've got this one: http://www.dynamode.com/english/pages/product/Datacom%20Products/USB%20Products/USB-H40-A2-0.html when I connected this device to the Raspberry I got these message Dec 17 13:59:48 pi kernel: [246075.608736] usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 112 using dwc_otg Dec 17

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-17 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 12/17/2014 4:03 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: I've got this one: http://www.dynamode.com/english/pages/product/Datacom%20Products/USB%20Products/USB-H40-A2-0.html Is it plugged into the wall? If you don't use an external power source, it is in passive mode, which means the overhead of the hub, and

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-17 Thread Moish
On 17/12/2014 16:03, Gabor Szabo wrote: I've got this one: http://www.dynamode.com/english/pages/product/Datacom%20Products/USB%20Products/USB-H40-A2-0.html when I connected this device to the Raspberry I got these message Dec 17 13:59:48 pi kernel: [246075.608736] usb 1-1.4: new high-speed

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-15 Thread Guy Sheffer
I've got one of these. Among other things it lets me power an external hdd. http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/12/21/x100-raspberry-pi-expansion-board-adds-vga-output-rtc-and-more/ Alternatively make sure when you get a powered hub it does not backfeed in to the pi. You might need to disconnect pin

Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
So finally I install the Raspberry Pi I bought a few weeks ago and wanted to add an external HDD. I plugged in the external hard drive and /var/log/syslog printed the following: Dec 14 17:02:55 pi kernel: [ 759.981949] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 8 using dwc_otg Dec 14 17:02:55

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-14 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
Are you providing the external HDD with sufficient electricity? The Raspberry is most likely not capable of providing enough current... 2014-12-14 19:30 GMT+02:00 Gabor Szabo ga...@szabgab.com: So finally I install the Raspberry Pi I bought a few weeks ago and wanted to add an external HDD. I

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hmm, good question. The Raspberry does see the device when it is connected, so is it possible that it needs more power after later on? How can I check? If the problem is lack of current, how can I solve that? Can I put one of these usb hubs that also provide power between the two? Gabor On

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-14 Thread Amos Shapira
Get a powered USB hub (i.e. a usb hub which also connects to a wall power socket). I'm not familiar with RPi USB version but check for USB 3.0 vs. 2.0. On 15 December 2014 at 06:07, Gabor Szabo ga...@szabgab.com wrote: Hmm, good question. The Raspberry does see the device when it is connected,

Re: Adding external HDD to Raspberry Pi

2014-12-14 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
Raspberry Pi uses USB2.0, it can't provide enough current to big peripheral devices full stop. It's so bad that plugging in a disk-on-key while it's running can cause a sufficient voltage drop to reboot the system (after which the d-o-k will work). That's why you need to have a powered USB hub,