Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take Netscape as a feature-bloated program.
Good example. I use Navigator only - at least there is that.
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Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather write programs to write programs than write programs."
Chen Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Modern software engneering is built around this concept, and all modern OS
are trying to be a bunch of small building blocks,
But not the really innovative ones... ;-)
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather write programs to write programs
actually, a few month back i had a discussion with my (now
ex) flatmate
about what does 'pipes' mean in GUI programming. we tried setting some
groups for defining a mechanism that will allow piping data between
different GUI components in some manner that will be useful.
after an hour
Hi guys,
Last week we had a nice discussion about bloatware, emacs and word.
This week I found an interesting article about it:
http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$308
Enjoy.
Chen.
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
This week I found an interesting article about it:
http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$308
actually, i have landed on joel's site a few weeks back, and liked what he
writes. and in what he wrote in this article - he's mostly right.
guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
btw, i don't only see microsoft's products as bloated. the same goes for
KDE, gnome and other graphic applications.
IMHO a lot depends on your modus operandi. It is very easy to accuse,
say, XEmacs of being bloated if you think in terms of starting a new
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
Hi guys,
Last week we had a nice discussion about bloatware, emacs and word.
This week I found an interesting article about it:
http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$308
I agrre with some of his arguments, and disagree with others I'll
On 25 Mar 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
btw, i don't only see microsoft's products as bloated. the same goes for
KDE, gnome and other graphic applications.
IMHO a lot depends on your modus operandi. It is very easy to accuse,
say, XEmacs of being
(is there a
Windows tool that allows one to quickly look at a couple of lines in a
Word file, by the way, or is starting Word the only option?).
wordpad opens word files and is lighter. (but giving windows advice on a
linux list is sacrilege)
I do consider Word "bloatware" (well, I also
Chen Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do consider Word "bloatware" (well, I also think it's incredibly
buggy, but that is off-topic), but for a different reason. A 2 page
plain text document is quite likely to take 3 MB in my experience. Now
I need to send 2 of these to someone by
On Sunday 25 March 2001 15:23, guy keren wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
This week I found an interesting article about it:
http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$308
actually, i have landed on joel's site a few weeks back, and liked
what he writes. and in what
Hello!
As far as I can see there are three main sources of measurable
code-bloat:
1. Machine architecture e.g. how many bytes do you need to encode a
register to resister move on
a. an old 16 bit PDP 11
b. a not so old segmented architecture 8086
c. a you-beauty P4 screamer
2. The printf
He says that feature bloat is good, because the 80/20 law is wrong. I
think he ignores the obvious - you may say "the linux way",
or probably
the "linux distro way".
The "Linux Distro Way" is a good subject for an MBA thesis.
IMO Its the #1 reason Linux has any market share. Its the only
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:00:12PM +0200, Chen Shapira wrote:
Can you please elaborate? (since this isn't linux related at all, you might
as well answer me privately and avoid the war).
Do you believe most of the recent flamewars and OT threads on linux-il
were relevant at all? Over the last
3. Sloppy coding on the principal that if it works, who cares, and, as
the link below point out, disk and memory are cheap. That's
part of the
wasteful western "comsumer" culture in which we live. It's worse than
planned obsolescence: It's selling goods known to be faulty,
beyond the
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
Do you believe most of the recent flamewars and OT threads on linux-il
were relevant at all?
some of this is not flame wars - it's exchanging opinions that are
relevant to linux, in the sense that they hepl us choose services and
method of work
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
BTW. I never saw a word processor that could pipe. They all read filesand
output files from UI.
actually, a few month back i had a discussion with my (now ex) flatmate
about what does 'pipes' mean in GUI programming. we tried setting some
groups for
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
BTW. I never saw a word processor that could pipe. They all read filesand
output files from UI.
Here's one that sort-of pipes:
http://siag.nu/index.shtml
see:
http://siag.nu/online-docs/common/plugins.html
[Ilya: So this post is not entirely
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