Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-28 Thread Baruch Even
* Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040528 08:51]: On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 01:01:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: how about network? was it out of the box? how much setup did you need? Network is seperated into 2 - you can use the TUN support (which frankly, I didn't yet manage to use

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-28 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo, from the post of Thu, 27 May: * It's not only emulating full X86 system, but also: * PowerPC (604 for now) * ARM 7 * Sparc (no FPU yet) in other words it works more like bochs than VMWARE and will probably never reach the execution speed of native

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
Layman's question: would I be able to run my other-partition's WinXP with it? -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 04:14:43PM +0200, Uri Sharf wrote: The User Mode sounds interesting, any experiance with that? One exception: You need a modified kernel for the simulated system. For instance, I want to install a standard distro on that simulated machine. Here's what you need to do to

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Guy Teverovsky
Actually UML is not that complicated considering the fact that precompiled kernel rpms exist (both for host and for UML machines): http://www.nrh-up2date.org/howto/uml/packages/ Guy On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 18:06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 04:14:43PM +0200, Uri Sharf wrote:

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi People, Lately I've been following a project which might interest few people here. It's called: QEMU QEMU is an open source Virtual PC emulator. Unlike BOCHS, it's quite fast (a bit slower then VMWare, but not by much).. Although the project is in version 0.5.x stages

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread yuval tanny
Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi People, Lately I've been following a project which might interest few people here. It's called: QEMU QEMU is an open source Virtual PC emulator. Unlike BOCHS, it's quite fast (a bit slower then VMWare, but not by much).. Although the project is in

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Diego Iastrubni
yuval tanny wrote: Hetz, How hard is to install XP or 2000? special kernel? special modules? How hard is to run knoppixes from this beast? I use it (QEMU) to try LiveCDs. It works, but slowly (very slow compare to VMWare). To run knoppix: qemu -cdrom knoppix.iso -m 200 This gives knoppix 200MB of

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Dan Kenigsberg wrote: Layman's question: would I be able to run my other-partition's WinXP with it? Well, there's a script to convert VMWare images to full hard drive image, but it's not stable yet to replace VMWare. Trust me on that ;) Also the network stuff is using SLiRP (or TUN, depends how

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
One exception: You need a modified kernel for the simulated system. Wrong. I've used standard redhat 9 as guest and it worked out of the box without any kernel compilation, not in guest side nor in the host side. Only thing you do need is the ne2k module (which is compiled by default on most

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hetz, How hard is to install XP or 2000? special kernel? special modules? I installed XP at work with it without much problems, but there are some emulation problems with QEMU, so remember - it's not finished product. How hard is to run knoppixes from this beast? Runs excellent. Put the CD in

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
how about network? was it out of the box? how much setup did you need? Network is seperated into 2 - you can use the TUN support (which frankly, I didn't yet manage to use it) or the SLiRP support (compile QEMU with --enable-slirp and user -user-net when you launch QEMU) With SLiRP, QEMU will

Re: Competitor to VMWare?

2004-05-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 01:01:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: how about network? was it out of the box? how much setup did you need? Network is seperated into 2 - you can use the TUN support (which frankly, I didn't yet manage to use it) or the SLiRP support (compile QEMU with