Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: Regarding point 2, wouldn't it be nice if it were possible to have a programming language which you can use to program the Android, on the Android itself, and run applications? Applications written in that language

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Nadav, On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:25:45 +0200 Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: There is nothing to stop anyone from developing a free app for Android but there currently is a high cost of entry

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Nadav, On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:43:25 +0200 Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: Well, note http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html - I think we shouldn't discourage Android FOSS developers from trying

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
through in many ways that are hard for me to enumerate. Anyway, something which surprised me a bit is that although Android itself is free software, there seems to be very few free software apps, and even fewer high-quality free software which I'll be proud to use. The biggest (and only

Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
, something which surprised me a bit is that although Android itself is free software, there seems to be very few free software apps, and even fewer high-quality free software which I'll be proud to use. The biggest (and only?) repository of free-software (open source) apps I could find was f-droid

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Dec 28, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I think that there are things that can be done on both points, and I wonder what other people think: IMHO the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad drives the Android market. People invest large sums of money developing apps for iOS and if they are a

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: There is nothing to stop anyone from developing a free app for Android but there currently is a high cost of entry into the market, the price of the device. As Android devices go down in price, and Actually

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
still shows through in many ways that are hard for me to enumerate. Anyway, something which surprised me a bit is that although Android itself is free software, there seems to be very few free software apps, and even fewer high-quality free software which I'll be proud to use. The biggest

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: Well, note http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html - I think we shouldn't discourage Android FOSS developers from trying to sell their applications (as long as they also provide the source, which means that other

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 14:25, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: I looked for a Wikipedia browsing app, and found a nice one, but with ads, and of course not open source. What the ?? Thousands of people spent millions of hours writing this encyclopedia without making a penny,

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: I looked for a Wikipedia browsing app, and found a nice one, but with ads, and of course not open source. What the ?? Thousands of people spent millions of hours writing this encyclopedia without making

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: Free Software on Android: Nice. Did you try sending your improvements to that widget upstream? I didn't, like I said this is basically a 50 line program, and I rewrote almost all of them, and changed all the graphics - so I doubt the original

Re: Free Software on Android

2011-12-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:04, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: I am angry for the Wikipedia contributors (I'm also one of them...) not because they are swindled out of their money but for a more subtle reason: they developed wikipedia wishing that people enjoy it. By adding ads to