Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-17 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday 17 November 2003 05:54, Micha Feigin wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:11:08PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: If you are warried about hardware support for Linux -- than try to accept only OSS drivers and wait for critical mass to force the vendors. but I also want my hardware to work,

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-17 Thread Idan Sofer
On Monday 17 November 2003 05:54, you wrote: solutions, but I also want my hardware to work, and to have some proffessional quallity software that there is no chance will ever hit the opensource. Although drifting off again, peer pressure wont solve all the opensource problems. Lets see peer

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:01:37AM +0200, Idan Sofer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 05:54, you wrote: solutions, but I also want my hardware to work, and to have some professional quality software that there is no chance will ever hit the opensource. Although drifting off again, peer

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 09:02:05AM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 05:54, Micha Feigin wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:11:08PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: If you are warried about hardware support for Linux -- than try to accept only OSS drivers and wait for critical

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-17 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday 17 November 2003 15:29, Micha Feigin wrote: The problem is with older hardware I pick up from people that no longer use it (which is most of my hardware). This is right to the point. Having hardware with binary drivers is like having an expiration date built into the hardware (Pag

Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: [... snipped ...] 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are obfuscation champions of the Linux world, then Ilan should be entitled to ask about the

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sunday 16 November 2003 16:38, Omer Zak wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: [... snipped ...] 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are obfuscation champions of the Linux

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Micha Feigin wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 16:38, Omer Zak wrote: I don't think the question was stupid. If anyone earned the 'stupid' label in this story it is those managers, who caused the need for the question in the first place. This is because I learned some things from the

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 16 November 2003 19:46, Micha Feigin wrote: Allowing binary only modules has its advantages ... ... This approach opens up the chance for more hardware support for linux... This is very shortsighted point of view. If most of the Linux developers would think so, we could have in a few

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:11:08PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 19:46, Micha Feigin wrote: Allowing binary only modules has its advantages ... ... This approach opens up the chance for more hardware support for linux... This is very shortsighted point of view. If