Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread David Harel
Greetings, I need your help regarding convincing the vice president of an association to shift from MS XP to Linux. What I did till now was install Ubuntu on two machines that were phasing out and failed to run MS. We got all services we needed including connectivity to external resources.

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Yotam Rubin
Not to take the wind out of your sails, I would probably advise against switching to Linux for anyone who's not a Linux expert. While it took me some years to reach this conclusion, I now believe that Linux is not a viable choice for anyone who's not an advanced user. My reasons follow: 1.

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 28 February 2009 17:45:11 Yotam Rubin wrote: Not to take the wind out of your sails, I would probably advise against switching to Linux for anyone who's not a Linux expert. How can you become a Linux expert without trying Linux? While it took me some years to reach this

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Moshe Brace using Yahoo
for an association I work for. To: David Harel harel...@gmail.com Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 5:45 PM Not to take the wind out of your sails, I would probably advise against switching to Linux for anyone who's not a Linux expert. While it took me some years to reach

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 28 February 2009 16:58:33 David Harel wrote: Greetings, I need your help regarding convincing the vice president of an association to shift from MS XP to Linux. What I did till now was install Ubuntu on two machines that were phasing out and failed to run MS. We got all services

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Saturday 28 February 2009 07:45:11 Yotam Rubin wrote: I now believe that Linux is not a viable choice for anyone who's not an advanced user. That's funny. So all 8 million Ubuntu users are linux experts? I guess if I visit the Ubuntu forums all I'll see is questions about remote RAID

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Geoff Shang
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2009 17:45:11 Yotam Rubin wrote: 2. Linux distributions don't work. Even Ubuntu and other mainstream distributions simply do not work. Package testing is poor, and various programs do not integrate with one another. I often find myself having to fix

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! On Saturday 28 February 2009 19:26:59 Moshe Brace using Yahoo wrote: Shavuah Tov, I'm a beginner what they call a Newbe. It's newbie - not newbe. I too came to some of the conclusions below. However, I look at the problem from a different angle as a newbe. I recently upgraded under

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Noam Rathaus
David, Unlike what Yotam is saying, I would advise the opposite. We have moved our whole company, as well as the accounting person (which uses חשבשבת under VirtualBox) to Linux - Ubuntu. I have to say several things works good and flawlessly, VPN and Drivers. Yes those pesky drivers, Windows

Fw: Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Moshe Brace using Yahoo
--- On Sat, 28/2/09, Moshe Brace using Yahoo mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Moshe Brace using Yahoo mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Linux for an association I work for. To: Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 8:27 PM Shavuah Tov, Too much Chollent

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Yotam Rubin
Hi, That's funny. So all 8 million Ubuntu users are linux experts? I guess if I visit the Ubuntu forums all I'll see is questions about remote RAID installation and not 'how to' on installing printers. Right? I will be more specific. To be able to use Linux effectively, productively and to

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:58:33 +0200 David Harel harel...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I need your help regarding convincing the vice president of an association to shift from MS XP to Linux. What I did till now was install Ubuntu on two machines that were phasing out and failed to run

Fwd: Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
Forwarding, as this seems to be Moshe's intention. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Linux for an association I work for. Date: Saturday 28 February 2009 From: Moshe Brace using Yahoo mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk To: Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il

Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Noam Rathaus
Micha, Unrelated to David's notes, rather to yours wicd is also the solution on one of our DELL laptops that wasn't able to join WEP/WPA networks unless we used wicd - as the network manager failed every time. On Saturday 28 February 2009 20:31:06 Micha Feigin wrote: On Sat, 28 Feb 2009

OT: Re: Linux for an association I work for.

2009-02-28 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 08:28:21PM +0200, Yotam Rubin wrote: Don't get me wrong, OS X also sucks, only to a lesser extent. Borrowing your plabeic style, I am basically saying this: 1. Windows sucks like a throng of brazillian adult-industry workers 2. Linux sucks like a relatively large