Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-11 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Sat, 05 Nov: On the other hand, qmail is such a pain to install (I mean download, patch, patch, patch,,patch and install) it ends up wasting more time than any server update. I apt-get install qmail-src and the patching and building is done for me. I

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-11 Thread Yonah Russ
On 11/11/05, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Sat, 05 Nov: On the other hand, qmail is such a pain to install (I mean download, patch, patch, patch,,patch and install) it ends up wasting more time than any server update.I apt-get install qmail-src and

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-11 Thread Danny Lieberman
I agree with Ira's comments - qmail is not difficult to install. It is robust, low maintenance and it works superbly with SA and ClamAV Spam Assasin is a different story entirely - you gotta know your stuff administering SA in a high volume environment dL Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah

Re: Apache to do everything except milk delivery (was: Re: My Anti-qmail Page)

2005-11-06 Thread Arik Baratz
On 11/6/05, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then all it will miss is mod_bootloader. You forgot the catch-all mod_emacs. Uh uh, tsk tsk. mod_vi comes first, I say! -- Arik

My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread i Fish
Hi all! I set up an anti-qmail page at: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/qmail/ Comments, suggestions, corrections and flames are welcome. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Orr Dunkelman
You of course forgot almost unmatched security (no security issues in 32-bit machines, only in 64-bit machines). The fact that DJB has bad attitude doesn't affect the fact he knows how to write code (try djbdns as well). I suggest you won't buy anything from him - but that's your call. It's

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 05 November 2005 18:34, Orr Dunkelman wrote: You of course forgot almost unmatched security (no security issues in 32-bit machines, only in 64-bit machines). I didn't place it there on purpose. The fact that DJB has bad attitude doesn't affect the fact he knows how to write code

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi Just one observation: On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 06:34:52PM +0200, Orr Dunkelman wrote: And of course, the most important stuff - it is an open source (not free software). Last time I tried to compile it, it went by the book. the people from OSI have not managed to trademark open soruce,

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
iF I set up an anti-qmail page at: iF iF http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/qmail/ I think that if you make some claims (like: qmail lags behind other MTA's in its feature-set), it is good to substantiate them, like say which features it lacks and how important are they. With that, it

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Yonah Russ
I personally agree with every word. So what if people don't find bugs in qmail. Does it make a difference to me whether the bug exists or whether the bug is found and patched before anyone exploits it. Chances are that if you use a supported distribution and you update regularly, any bugs will

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Eli Marmor
I set up an anti-qmail page at: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/qmail/ Comments, suggestions, corrections and flames are welcome. Regards, Shlomi Fish I don't want to express any opinion about qmail. It has some good points, and Dan Bernstein should be credited for

Re: My Anti-qmail Page

2005-11-05 Thread Arik Baratz
On 11/5/05, Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maybe it's too early to include mod_smtpd in the list of alternatives, but I believe that in the long run, it has good chances to become the best MTA for Linux/UNIX, especially if it will be integrated well with the HTTP module, as well

Apache to do everything except milk delivery (was: Re: My Anti-qmail Page)

2005-11-05 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 02:22 +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: On 11/5/05, Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maybe it's too early to include mod_smtpd in the list of alternatives, but I believe that in the long run, it has good chances to become the best MTA for Linux/UNIX, especially if