Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Eli Marmor
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised?

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Eli Marmor wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: * GNOME is going to release 2.0 on March 15. It seems I wasn't following their release schedule that well. Anybody working on updating the translation files of gnome (to reflact the

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Pardon my nit-picking * gcc upgraded to 3.0 a long time ago, but most distros continued to supply 2.9.5/2.9.6 as their default. April's distros will fell safe enough to finally upgrade. I think maybe SuSE will move GCC 3.0 (maybe also debian - I don't follow debian so much), but

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-30 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi, Arash Zeini, Roozbeh and I are working on KDE 3.0 in FarsiKDE ml (http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsikde), we have a meeting in two days, to findout the current problems, let us know of any problems specific to hebrew. Yours, behdad On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
thanks :-) we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? That will take some time. I'm not sure if

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:47, Dvir Volk wrote: thanks :-) we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? Well,

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
That will take some time. I'm not sure if next versions of mandrake (8.2) and redhat (8.0?)will include it, although I'll figure that at least Mandrake will try very hard. But those will only be out on around March or April (I believe). Mandrake 8.2 will include KDE 2.2.2, not KDE 3.0

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 20:58 +0200 on 29/1/2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: (Ynet and Nana look ok, but Globes seems totally broken) Globes is broken in Mozilla, too - not just on Linux. So maybe it's Globes' fault, not Konqueror (as in: We test only on MSIE, because everybody uses MSIE, don't they?) Herouth --

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :): RedHat 8.0 will include KDE 3, new GLIBC, new GCC (3.1) and will not make binary compatible with older versions of RedHat 7.x, but of-course - will be able to load/run RH 7.x binaries. Which makes

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Which makes me raise a question: are we going to see for the first time ever (or at least since Redhat 5) a Redhat release numbered *.3 (i.e., 7.3)? Nop, no such a beast will exist. What I mean is, is there any chance that a new gcc will be stable enough in 2 months to be useful as the

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Globes is broken in Mozilla, too - not just on Linux. So maybe it's Globes' fault, not Konqueror (as in: We test only on MSIE, because everybody uses MSIE, don't they?) No such thing with the KHTML developers - if you can see it with MSIE (without any special plugins like shockwave) - they

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:59 PM To: Dvir Volk; Ben-Nes Michael; linux ILUG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :) On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:47, Dvir Volk wrote: thanks :-) we'll be doing a big don't be afraid

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 00:08, Dvir Volk wrote: I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. editing complex texts with kde2.2 and biditext is very uncomfortable. if KDE would be able to provide a bidi level that even will enable me to edit long hebrew articles on it, i swear i'll format my XP

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
And that (IMHO) would be a very foolish step (again, IMHO) ... So as for your formatting XP - allow me to suggest to you - stay with your XP for now - and only when you see that all your needs can be fulfilled with Linux - then switch to Linux, and even then - I suggest you leave

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
hmmm... well, it might be jumping a bit too fast, you're right. but it was just meant as a metaphor to how much i'm waiting for the proper bidi support to happen. apart from hebrew text editing, linux and kde 2.2 already fulfill all my humble needs, really (although the ximian connector

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: apart from hebrew text editing, linux and kde 2.2 already fulfill all my humble needs, really I definately understand you on this issue... However - as much as I hate to say it - KDE 3.0 is still not OK (IMHO) for end users right now. Right

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Right now it is a beta, and betas crash. But is bidi in QT (QT, not konqueror) feature-complete? Feature complete? I think yes, you're welcome to check out from kde's cvs the qt-copy and use it. If konqueror has some problems rendering visual hebrew sites, then it's tough. However: does

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Can all programs accept hebrew text? Can I simply type Hebrew into any KDE program and view it right? You mean like this? http://witch.dyndns.org/stuff/ynet.png (take a look at the URL bar) Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Can all programs accept hebrew text? Can I simply type Hebrew into any KDE program and view it right? You mean like this? http://witch.dyndns.org/stuff/ynet.png (take a look at the URL bar) smilies are tricky when bidi is involved :-( If you