Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
On 6 Mar 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console and lock

[Fwd: Run Level 5]

2002-03-05 Thread Erez Doron
erez. Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. The most common argument against using xdm at startup (runlevel 5 [1] is that if you change the hardware or the settings the X server may

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Erez Doron
through there. Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adi Stav wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adi Stav wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. The most common argument against using xdm at startup (runlevel 5 [1] is that if you change the hardware or the settings the X server may fail to load and then you get

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adi Stav wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Christoph Bugel
be solved with basic UNIX concepts :) Adi, the problem with your (and Shachar's) suggestion is that it will still cause my sound to disappear. And besides, run-level 5 was introduced Hi Shlomi, I don't understand what the problem is. Are you saying startx gives you sound in X, but exec startx

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Max Kovgan
-=O0~O0=- He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought - So rested he by the Tumtum tree. And stood awhile in thought. [L.Carrol Jabberwacky] On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote: [1] runlevel

Run Level 5

2002-03-04 Thread Shlomi Fish
I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console and lock it, then a malicious user can switch to the console from which it was invoked, press Ctrl+C or Ctrl

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-04 Thread Christoph Bugel
On Tue 2002-03-05, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console and lock it, then a malicious user can switch to the console from

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer Networks farm. If I start X from the console and lock it, then a malicious user can

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-04 Thread Christoph Bugel
On Tue 2002-03-05, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: . I made xdm not start an X server (comment the last line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers) and have written an init.d script that runs 'X -query localhost' in a loop with a 'sleep 30' between them. That way, if X fails to start, I have 30 seconds to log

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
eventaully became non-functional for some reason. It's probably a bug of some sort, but I have better things to do with my time than to try and sort it out. 3. Using Run-Level 5. That way, no virtual console are needed to invoke the X-server. 4. do exec startx. This way there is no shell behind