Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Thanks both of you for your input. Yes I'm aware of the caveats (luckily I get to play with AWS, and AWS automation, all day in my current job :) ). Cheers, --Amos On 15 January 2015 at 21:17, Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il wrote: I believe that the time required for system start

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-15 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
I believe that the time required for system start depends on the list of services. It could be shorted than two minutes, or longer. Depends. I used a condition - 'if' he can trim the image to startup in about 15 seconds, it becomes feasible. Etzion On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Orna Agmon

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-14 Thread Amos Shapira
Thanks Etzion. Yes you are on the same track as me. An unmapped Elastic IP will cost $3.65/month, which is a significant amount in comparison to the numbers I'm looking at skimming, so you are probably right about using a no-ip address. Finding the instance IP is a matter of a trivial curl call

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-14 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Hi Amos. It means you make use of an instance which is very quick to load. Removing non-esential services, or postponing them to after Jira starts, using a lightweight system, etc. If you can remove boot-time hogs, you can reach a fast-booting system. A script using Amazon API will prepare it for

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-14 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
Hi Amos, Etzion, You are talking about 15 seconds for bringing up the machine, and about shutting down the machine according to idleness detection. Last time I checked (and maybe I am not up-to-date), 1. It took about two minutes to bring up the machine. 2. Amazon charged per full hour. That is,

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-13 Thread Amos Shapira
Etzion, just a question: Amos 0 if you can customise your instance to be very very light, - what do you mean by that? Your description is close to what I have in mind. As for the changing IP address - this can be easily overcome using Elastic IP and/or no-ip.com and friends. Thanks, --Amos On

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-13 Thread Amos Shapira
I own a Solid-Run Cubox-i4Pro with a couple of GB of RAM and 4 ARMv7 cores and run OpenELEC on it. I don't think that running Jira + Confluence (each requiring its own JVM) is practical on this hardware, in parallel to the other things I use it for. On 13 January 2015 at 05:57, E.S. Rosenberg

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-12 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Except that NUC costs about 700+ ILS (I have three. I know. This is the Celeron version). Amos 0 if you can customise your instance to be very very light, and it can startup in about 15 seconds or so, it is acceptable to have it on-demand. You can wrap it in a script (using AWS API and tools) to

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-12 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
I don't know what type of load JIRA presents but for low load private stuff a raspberrypi or something similar (for heavier but still fairly 'light' stuff maybe an Intel NUC system or a mini-itx system) at home + noip/dyndns or some other form of locating it by yourself can be more then enough

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-08 Thread Amos Shapira
I was thinking about running it on my own laptop, and perhaps I will. But that would mean leaving it on around the clock which I don't want to (I'm very conscious of power consumption, both economically and environmentally), and I don't carry it with me most of the time but would like to have

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-08 Thread Vitaly
Amos, IMHO, it's not technical, but more human issue. For example, as far as you decide that you need Jira every last day of month, you can launch instance automatically. But typically Jira usage is more random, so I don't think there is technical solution exist. If you're the only Jira user,

Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-07 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi, Do people here keep EC2 instances running? Do you leave it running 24/7 or do you fire them up when you need them? I'd like to run my own EC2 instance running $10 Jira + $10 Confluence (+$10 some extra useful add-ons) (to clarify - these are one-off $10 for each product), but can't justify

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
I'm not an AWS expert and would love to hear from those who are. But we do have a few (dozen) instances on AWS. We have them running 24/7. I get that you could start and stop on demand, but don't get how you would do that without changing the way you work in a drastic way (compared to a physical

Re: Skimping on AWS EC2 bills

2015-01-07 Thread Amos Shapira
Yes I'm well aware of the RI option. It can save up to %70 for high-load (i.e. machines which are up 24/7), but much less saving compared to something that you can keep bringing up and down on demand. Also the up-front cost is not cheap, and commits you to that type of instance (as far as I