Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-07-12 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting sara fink, from the post of Sun, 30 May: 2010/5/30 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, Evrit is indeed a Linux device, but it had a very very stritct DRM. I think I heard from someone inside NDS that the DRM is built inside the kernel as a module. Not sure though, just a rumor

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-06-22 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Seeing the GPL discussion regarding Orange made me wonder if someone yet has tried to contact the Evrit sellers to make them confirm to the GPL requirements. Btw, their user manual sais qisda es600 in the filename, and looking for this combination turns up the following device and the following

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-06-01 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 02:45:14 geoffrey mendelson wrote: On May 31, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Meir Kriheli wrote: Pixel Qi might be the answer, looks promising: http://www.pixelqi.com/ Yes it does. Now all they have to do is find someone to manufacture them. Geoff. Details ... ;-) --

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread Amichai Rotman
How about the Nokia N770 Internet Tablet + FBReader as an e-book reader? It runs Linux and is very comfortable, although it's a smaller LCD screen... FBReader has Hebrew support, but I wonder how do I get Hebrew e-books to use on it? .::.

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread Elazar Leibovich
The main trick about the e-books that everyone seems to miss, is the e-ink technology. From my own experience, the e-reader's screen is much more comfortable to the eyes. 2010/5/31 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il: How about the Nokia N770 Internet Tablet + FBReader  as an e-book reader? It

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 31, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: The main trick about the e-books that everyone seems to miss, is the e-ink technology. From my own experience, the e-reader's screen is much more comfortable to the eyes. e-ink is realtivley common and cheap. Last fall a US magazine had

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread Dov Grobgeld
I've read *lots* of ebooks on portable devices. I started off on my PalmIIIx, which was a bit of a pain because of the low resolution and the low contrast, continued on my Palm E2, which was great, and now I'm using FBReader on my Nokia N900, which is near perfect. One of the advantages of the

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Monday 31 May 2010 21:06:36 geoffrey mendelson wrote: On May 31, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: The main trick about the e-books that everyone seems to miss, is the e-ink technology. From my own experience, the e-reader's screen is much more comfortable to the eyes. e-ink

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-31 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 31, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Meir Kriheli wrote: Pixel Qi might be the answer, looks promising: http://www.pixelqi.com/ Yes it does. Now all they have to do is find someone to manufacture them. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com

What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Does anyone have any idea of what software is running on the new Hebrew e-ink reader evrit? Their web-page does not mention say a word about what platform it is running on, what processor it uses, whether it is firmware upgradable, etc. See: http://www.e-vrit.co.il Regards, Dov

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dov Grobgeld
It is running Linux: http://www.e-vrit.co.il/content.aspx?cId=7 But it seems they forgot to provide sources for their GPL programs on the web page... Though of course according to the GPL their are other ways they can comply with the license. Dov On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:26, Dov Grobgeld

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 30, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Does anyone have any idea of what software is running on the new Hebrew e-ink reader evrit? Their web-page does not mention say a word about what platform it is running on, what processor it uses, whether it is firmware upgradable, etc.

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread sammy ominsky
On 30/05/2010, at 09:48, geoffrey mendelson wrote: I may have misunderstood the article, but I thought that it cost almost 2,000 NIS when you bought the reader and the bundle of books. On the website, it's 1,399 and you get a 400 shekel credit toward books (limited time only). Since I

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 30, 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: What's inside the evrit reader?: Since I have no idea of what books it reads, I was not sure the bundle was needed, or I could just use it to read books I already have, or can download for free. What worries me more about what

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dov Grobgeld
, Dov On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:39, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: What's inside the evrit reader?: Since I have no idea of what books it reads, I was not sure the bundle was needed, or I could just use it to read books I

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 30 May 2010 09:48, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Does anyone have any idea of what software is running on the new Hebrew e-ink reader evrit? Their web-page does not mention say a word about what platform it is

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2010/5/30 Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com: It is running Linux: http://www.e-vrit.co.il/content.aspx?cId=7 But it seems they forgot to provide sources for their GPL programs on the web page... Though of course according to the GPL their are other ways they can comply with the license.

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Stan Goodman
At 12:18:16 on Sunday Sunday 30 May 2010, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 May 2010 09:48, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Does anyone have any idea of what software is running on the new Hebrew e-ink

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Dov Grobgeld
As far as I understand it is published in epub. Probably in encrypted epub, which is not supported by any free software readers as it needs a proprietary module by Adobe. See: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/digitalpublishing/ But again, it is just a guess that this is what Evrit is using. Dov On

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Evrit is indeed a Linux device, but it had a very very stritct DRM. I think I heard from someone inside NDS that the DRM is built inside the kernel as a module. Not sure though, just a rumor I heard. IMHO I wouldn't recommend such a device until the price drops and we'll see some competing

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread sara fink
2010/5/30 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, Evrit is indeed a Linux device, but it had a very very stritct DRM. I think I heard from someone inside NDS that the DRM is built inside the kernel as a module. Not sure though, just a rumor I heard. I am not sure about drm built in the kernel,

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 30, 2010, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: What's inside the evrit reader?: IMHO I wouldn't recommend such a device until the price drops and we'll see some competing products. There are competing products who are IIRC cheaper. The books that Steimatzky will sells are fully DRM

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 30, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: All of this would be fine if their business model was that of a library. After all, people don't normally check out books from a library and go to loan (sublet) them to other people, and nobody would care if his rented book has any DRM on

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread guy keren
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: What's inside the evrit reader?: IMHO I wouldn't recommend such a device until the price drops and we'll see some competing products. There are competing products who are IIRC cheaper. The books that Steimatzky will sells

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 30, 2010, guy keren wrote about Re: What's inside the evrit reader?: just the way that in the paper-world there were books sales and there were book loans together - they may be several such models that will evolve around the internet. I agree, both book selling and book loaning

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 30, 2010, at 5:16 PM, guy keren wrote: so the real problem you have now, is your ability (or lack of) to loan the book to friends or sell them as used books. note that since they are not used - you should be able to sell them in list- price to anyone (perhaps a little less -

Re: What's inside the evrit reader?

2010-05-30 Thread sammy ominsky
On 30/05/2010, at 16:54, geoffrey mendelson wrote: As a disabled person, I really like the idea that a library can rent number of digital copies of books, and lend them out over the internet with DRM set to self destruct in 2 weeks. That way someone can check them out and not bother to