Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moshe, stop flaming other distros I'm pointing out flaws. it's not nice. And here I was, thinking pointing out flaws for people to be aware of is a nice thing. Gentoo is nice too, Debian should get some of the Gentoo's emerge

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Amir Tal
On Thursday 22 August 2002 00:04, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented. I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew?? like.. duh.. hello... the users who

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented. I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew?? like.. duh.. hello... the users who wants hebrew

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Oleg Kobets
Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions) Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew project, which

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 20:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: To exact: - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered? Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 15:52, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote: 1. Control of dependenices. With binary distros you're bound to the dependencies as decided by the package maintainer. Let's for example take vim in Debian. If you install vim lipgpm will

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
Moshe, I'm trying to understand why some people resent trying new distributions/ applications (note: at least trying). You don't have to act like some kid finding out his favorite super hero is being insulted or some knight defending his fort. If you can't discuss things without throwing FUD

reasoning (was: gentoo (was: lite distributions))

2002-08-21 Thread Orna Agmon
Actually, there is a reasoning for doing both. People who are interested in their OS as a working tool would be satisfied by less than 100% performance, if achieving more compatibility means they have to spend too much time installing and learning. (achieving low maintainance) People would

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian (or Gentoo or any other distro) is not the end all be all of=20 distributions. Any distro has an intendend audience and niche (some larger than others). If someone does not fit your niche, fine - OK. You don't have to go bad

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote: Moshe, I'm trying to understand why some people resent trying new distributions/ applications (note: at least trying). You don't have to act like some kid finding out his favorite super hero is being insulted or some knight defending his fort.

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote: Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2. 1. It rocks. 2. It is very fast. 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to install base, xfree 4.1.2, kde 3.0.2 and koffice 1.2-rc2 XFree 4.1.2? just like debian's stable, I see.

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote: Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2. 1. It rocks. 2. It is very fast. 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to install base, xfree 4.1.2, kde 3.0.2 and

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote: On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote: Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2. 1. It rocks. 2. It is very fast. 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Ely Levy
Subject: Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions) On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2. ... 2. It is very fast. How fast? *Any* benchmarks? At all

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote: 1. Control of dependenices. With binary distros you're bound to the dependencies as decided by the package maintainer. Let's for example take vim in Debian. If you install vim lipgpm will be installed as well. I hate gpm and never use it,

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé, 20 áàåâåñè 2002, 09:13, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá: Allow to to suggest a different route to the same goal: install {Your-Favorite-Binary-Distribution}. If YFBD is worth its salt then it is based upon some sort of packages system. Make sure that you can get those source packages as well.

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: To exact: - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered? Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of testing new kernels was put it on the

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 23:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of testing new kernels was put it on the

lite distributions

2002-08-19 Thread Ishai Parasol
Hi I'm planing a litlle home network with a gateway firewall on the first box, and then 3 old boxes (pentium 100 or so with 500mb hd) that suppose to serve http, mail, ftp, etc for the outside world. each box should have no more than apache+ftp+ssh or postfix+ftp+ssh without any X or other

RE: lite distributions

2002-08-19 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Martin Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at Gentoo? It's definitely not a beginner's distro, but you can install as much or as little as you want. I think you can have a very minimal Slackware system too. And in Debian, you can have an extremely minimal

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-19 Thread Oleg Kobets
) as debian, Gentoo is your choice. Oleg. - Original Message - From: Shaul Karl shaul@calanit To: Martin Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ishai Parasol [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Linux Mailing-List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: gentoo (was: lite distributions) Have

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-19 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2. .. 2. It is very fast. How fast? *Any* benchmarks? At all? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-19 Thread Oleg Kobets
' (to install MC) it merged the entire X and then MC. Maybe it was a typo on my behalf ? Oleg. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:24 AM Subject: Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions) On Tue, Aug

RE: lite distributions

2002-08-19 Thread Martin Polley
Polley Cc: Ishai Parasol; Linux Mailing-List Subject: RE: lite distributions On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Martin Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at Gentoo? It's definitely not a beginner's distro, but you can install as much or as little as you want. I think you can have a very minimal