Re: [Shaul Karl shaulka@bezeqint.net] Meeting Regarding Setting up a Commercial Linux Group

2002-12-26 Thread Yehuda Drori
On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:18, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: OK, the existence of HaMakor has been leaked to linux-il, apparently. Question is, does it exist? Can we get updated on the status of registration? Another question: should a member of the board post to linux-il and announce it

Re: [Shaul Karl shaulka@bezeqint.net] Meeting Regarding Settingup a Commercial Linux Group

2002-12-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Hi, On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 12:02, Yehuda Drori wrote: it's seems that the news about the Amuta is out there... I'm not sure that any of us should response to questions regarding the Amuta until Haim Ravia will finish the legale matters. hhmm.. why? I see no reason not to tell people what

OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Guy Baruch
Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their Leumi-Ba-Internet site. I have long viewed their site via Mozilla/Linux, which their old site supported. Problem is, the new site did not work with Mozilla (tried several versions)

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their Leumi-Ba-Internet site. Interesting to see you think it is a *good* story...

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client So, with all the stories about sites discriminating against non-IE clients, Discriminators are users. Customer (Leumi in this case) looking at Browser Statistics won't pay money on customization for Netscape+Mozilla. If you

Dinner with RMS

2002-12-26 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi everybody, As most (all?) of you already know, Richard M. Stallman of the GNU/FSF/GPL/gcc/gdb/emacs/etc fame is coming to Israel to participate in the IBM's GNU/Linux events in Tel Aviv (Jan 8) and in Haifa (Jan 9). We have been in touch with him, and invited him to a dinner with members of

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:15, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their Leumi-Ba-Internet

FW: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: FW: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client So, with all the stories about sites discriminating against non-IE clients, Discriminators are users. Customer (Leumi in this case) looking at Browser Statistics won't pay money on customization for Netscape+Mozilla. If you

Re: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Eli Marmor
Boulgakov Andrei wrote: NSs and Mozilla takes 3%, IEs - 96%. If man*month of Web developer costs to Leumi 15000$, development of IE-ed site takes 10 man*month $15000 for a man month of a web developer looks a little exaggerated. and IE-ed and NS-ed 15 man*month, who need to pay 5000*5=25000$

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:15, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. Bank Leumi just

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +0200, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:15, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT.

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client ;-) AFAIK, you're right only in #3 MM in fixed price project can cost to customer more than 15000 :) -Original Message- From: Eli Marmor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL

solved (was: strange file permission problem)

2002-12-26 Thread shlomo solomon
For anyone who doesn't remember this thread of a few days ago, I had some log files whose permissions were being randomly changed to 600 (after I set them to 644). Ths was happening several times a day. OK - there's a new application in the Mandrake 9.0 Control Panel called drakperm. It

Re: solved (was: strange file permission problem)

2002-12-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, shlomo solomon wrote: For anyone who doesn't remember this thread of a few days ago, I had some log files whose permissions were being randomly changed to 600 (after I set them to 644). Ths was happening several times a day. OK - there's a new application in the Mandrake

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Guy Baruch
OK, I don't want to get into website construction techniques (don't know enough). I found this a good story not because the new or old site dazzeled me by its perfection, but because BLL, although originally making a mistake, had the beitzim/iot to admit it to a private costumer (ar least

Re: solved (was: strange file permission problem)

2002-12-26 Thread shlomo solomon
On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:44, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: But how are those permissions set to the files? Isn't it by a daily cron job (msec)? Yes, but it's an hourly CRON job on my MDK 9.0 box. And that's apparently the default - I didn't make any changes to system jobs after installing. --

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Uri Bruck
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT. Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their Leumi-Ba-Internet site.

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Oleg Kobets
1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over- complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE browsers; What makes you think this typical Israeli? Do you have a different experience with your off-shore bank account? This is an issue of awarness and

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Uri Bruck wrote about Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: 1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over- complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE browsers; What makes you think this typical Israeli?

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 26 December 2002 23:24, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Uri Bruck wrote about Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: 1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over- complication and utter disregard to standards and

Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-26 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Howdy, everyone, Gilad has put together a preliminary website for Hamakor, which is now available at http://www.hamakor.org.il. The website has a short FAQ, and the amuta's takanon. Please note that this website is a draft, and that the amuta is not officially registered yet, but will be soon.

Bank HaPoalim and Mozilla

2002-12-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:32:44AM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Because it's not NS support and IE support - it's Standarts Complaince. No one need to support NS - they need to support IETF standarts. If NS or Mozilla fail to correctly display a correct document it's a bug and it will get

Re: USB printer problem

2002-12-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 07:09:49PM +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: MDK 9.0 did a perfect job of detecting and installing my printer. But after a couple of days, the printer stopped working. The program I was printing from didn't give any indication that the printing was not successful. After

Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-26 Thread Uri Bruck
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Uri Bruck wrote about Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client: 1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over- complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE

Re: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-26 Thread Tal Peer
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Howdy, everyone, Gilad has put together a preliminary website for Hamakor, which is now available at http://www.hamakor.org.il. The website has a short FAQ, and the amuta's takanon. Please note that this website is a draft, and that the amuta is not officially

Re: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 01:09, Tal Peer wrote: PS: there's a typo (i think) in the takanon, in the last sentence it should be FSF, not FCF. Of course ;-) Actually we had to change that - the Israeli law requires us to give the assets of the an non profit org to an *Israeli* no profit org

Re: kde 3.1 RC5 menus

2002-12-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 01:00:52AM +0200, Amir Tal wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:32, Michael Stolovitzsky wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:15, Amir Tal wrote: i've upgraded to RC5 a few days ago, and i noticed that in some of kde's applications there's a big mess in the

Re: OT: SSH over HTTP

2002-12-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:39:36PM +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote: I am behind a corporate firewall and need SSH. The firewall is MicroShit ISA server (AKA Microsoft Proxy 2.0) and the only access to the internet is via the above mentioned proxy. I must have SSH access to some other hosts out there

Re: Best open source peer-to-peer network?

2002-12-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 10:00:42AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some marked leader among the open source peer-to-peer networks? LimeWire looks like it. The scale is in terms of reliability of the network, how it copes with firewalls, how can someone authenticate the content of

Re: kde 3.1 RC5 menus

2002-12-26 Thread Amir Tal
On Friday 27 December 2002 01:59, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 01:00:52AM +0200, Amir Tal wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:32, Michael Stolovitzsky wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:15, Amir Tal wrote: i've upgraded to RC5 a few days ago, and i noticed that

Re: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-26 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:54:12AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Howdy, everyone, Gilad has put together a preliminary website for Hamakor, which is now available at http://www.hamakor.org.il. The website has a short FAQ, and the amuta's takanon. Please note that this website is a

Re: USB printer problem

2002-12-26 Thread shlomo solomon
On Friday 27 December 2002 02:27, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: Is the 'printer.o' module (= USB Printer module) loaded when this problem happens? yes [root@shlomo1 solomon]# insmod printer Using /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/printer.o.gz insmod: a module named printer already exists