Getting mouse buttons to work
Hi all, first off I must confess that this is a crosspost. I posted a similar question to the Debian list, then to the Fedora list, but it's not getting very far and I know that there are some smart folks here who could probably help. I have a nice new Teac OX-1100 mouse with two extra multimedia buttons that supposedly perform the Zoom functions in Windows. When I try to get the scancodes with xev, xbindkeys -k, showkey, or showkey -s then I see no output. There are some other functional keys on this mouse which also show no output with those tools, such as the side scroll feature, so I suspect that there must be _some_ way to get the codes. Other than Xev, Xbindkeys, and Showkey, what tools can I use? I specifically bought this mouse because of the location of the two extra keys, as I have a manual disability and cannot use the special keys of regular mice. This is the rodent: ✈ganymede:~$ grep -i mouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15.197] (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled [15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: Found 1 mouse buttons [15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: Configuring as mouse [15.292] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/event2) [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev keyboard catchall [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: always reports core events [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event2 [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found 9 mouse buttons [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s) [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found relative axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found x and y relative axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found absolute axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found keys [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as mouse [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as keyboard [15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 [15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 [15.300] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (type: KEYBOARD) [15.301] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: initialized for relative axes. [15.301] (WW) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: ignoring absolute axes. [15.301] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0) However, 10 of the 12 buttons work, not just the 9 that it found. I've tried to google a picture of the mouse, I see no info on Teac mice even on the Teac website. The buttons are zoom buttons that I suppose are activated by a Windows driver on the OS that the package states that it supports. Thanks in advance for any advice on how to continue! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting mouse buttons to work
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:44:08AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Hi all, first off I must confess that this is a crosspost. I posted a
similar question to the Debian list, then to the Fedora list, but it's
not getting very far and I know that there are some smart folks here
who could probably help.
I have a nice new Teac OX-1100 mouse with two extra multimedia buttons
that supposedly perform the Zoom functions in Windows. When I try to
get the scancodes with xev, xbindkeys -k, showkey, or showkey
-s then I see no output. There are some other functional keys on this
mouse which also show no output with those tools, such as the side
scroll feature, so I suspect that there must be _some_ way to get the
codes.
Other than Xev, Xbindkeys, and Showkey, what tools can I use? I
specifically bought this mouse because of the location of the two
extra keys, as I have a manual disability and cannot use the special
keys of regular mice.
This is the rodent:
✈ganymede:~$ grep -i mouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15.197] (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled
[15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: Found 1
mouse buttons
[15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000:
Configuring as mouse
[15.292] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100
wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/event2)
[15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying
InputClass evdev pointer catchall
[15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying
InputClass evdev keyboard catchall
[15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: always reports core events
[15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Device:
/dev/input/event2
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found 9 mouse buttons
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found relative axes
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found x and y relative
axes
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found absolute axes
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found keys
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as mouse
[15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as keyboard
[15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: YAxisMapping:
buttons 4 and 5
[15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse:
EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout:
200
[15.300] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device MLK OX-1100
wireless Laser Mouse (type: KEYBOARD)
[15.301] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: initialized for
relative axes.
[15.301] (WW) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: ignoring absolute axes.
[15.301] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100
wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)
However, 10 of the 12 buttons work, not just the 9 that it found. I've
tried to google a picture of the mouse, I see no info on Teac mice
even on the Teac website. The buttons are zoom buttons that I
suppose are activated by a Windows driver on the OS that the package
states that it supports.
Thanks in advance for any advice on how to continue!
I have no idea about the specific mouse or issue, but other places you
can check are:
1. Outside of X, do
od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
then press various buttons and see what happens.
2. Try playing with acpi/acpid. E.g., from the examples of acpid
- look at /usr/share/doc/acpid/examples/default{,.sh}
(or at least that's where they are on my laptop - Debian Lenny).
I personally managed to make Fn F7 move between internal/external
monitor by playing with it and an example I once found on google -
I think it was this one:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script
I have no idea if you can get acpi events from normal keys (not Fn)
and did not try this (yet?).
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Re: Getting mouse buttons to work
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:19, Yedidyah Bar-David
linux...@didi.bardavid.org wrote:
I have no idea about the specific mouse or issue, but other places you
can check are:
1. Outside of X, do
od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
then press various buttons and see what happens.
Interesting approach. In fact, even buttons that _do_ work did not
reliably give any output. However, I could get absolutely zero output
from the buttons in question.
2. Try playing with acpi/acpid. E.g., from the examples of acpid
- look at /usr/share/doc/acpid/examples/default{,.sh}
(or at least that's where they are on my laptop - Debian Lenny).
I personally managed to make Fn F7 move between internal/external
monitor by playing with it and an example I once found on google -
I think it was this one:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script
I have no idea if you can get acpi events from normal keys (not Fn)
and did not try this (yet?).
Thanks, but I don't see how I could adapt that to a mouse. In any
case, it would have to be after I get a scancode from the device
buttons.
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http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com
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Re: [Haifux] Getting mouse buttons to work
perhaps try to switch to a runlevel that does not have X window running.
it could be that the X window code is competing for these events - and
when you make tests, you don't want to have that.
--guy
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 11:55 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:19, Yedidyah Bar-David
linux...@didi.bardavid.org wrote:
I have no idea about the specific mouse or issue, but other places you
can check are:
1. Outside of X, do
od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
then press various buttons and see what happens.
Interesting approach. In fact, even buttons that _do_ work did not
reliably give any output. However, I could get absolutely zero output
from the buttons in question.
2. Try playing with acpi/acpid. E.g., from the examples of acpid
- look at /usr/share/doc/acpid/examples/default{,.sh}
(or at least that's where they are on my laptop - Debian Lenny).
I personally managed to make Fn F7 move between internal/external
monitor by playing with it and an example I once found on google -
I think it was this one:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Sample_Fn-F7_script
I have no idea if you can get acpi events from normal keys (not Fn)
and did not try this (yet?).
Thanks, but I don't see how I could adapt that to a mouse. In any
case, it would have to be after I get a scancode from the device
buttons.
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Re: Getting mouse buttons to work
Here is a picture of the rodent, the buttons in question are the two Zoom buttons on the upper left: http://www.pompa.co.il/images/ItemPics%5COX1100.jpg The two multimedia buttons on the left side of the mouse (below the Zoom buttons in the picture) work as expected, as does the four-way scroll. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Fwd: Hamakor General Assembly on Thu, 17-Feb-2011 in Shenkar
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Re: [Haifux] Getting mouse buttons to work
Hi dotan This is from Ubunto, so it may not work for you try xinput list to see if you get any useful data (use xinput list | grep 'id=' to find mice id) if you can get data, then you can use xinput set-button-map to try and set buttons Shahar - Original Message - From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com To: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il; haifux. hai...@haifux.org Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:44 AM Subject: [Haifux] Getting mouse buttons to work Hi all, first off I must confess that this is a crosspost. I posted a similar question to the Debian list, then to the Fedora list, but it's not getting very far and I know that there are some smart folks here who could probably help. I have a nice new Teac OX-1100 mouse with two extra multimedia buttons that supposedly perform the Zoom functions in Windows. When I try to get the scancodes with xev, xbindkeys -k, showkey, or showkey -s then I see no output. There are some other functional keys on this mouse which also show no output with those tools, such as the side scroll feature, so I suspect that there must be _some_ way to get the codes. Other than Xev, Xbindkeys, and Showkey, what tools can I use? I specifically bought this mouse because of the location of the two extra keys, as I have a manual disability and cannot use the special keys of regular mice. This is the rodent: ✈ganymede:~$ grep -i mouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15.197] (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled [15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: Found 1 mouse buttons [15.289] (II) Microsoft Natural® Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: Configuring as mouse [15.292] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/event2) [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev keyboard catchall [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: always reports core events [15.292] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event2 [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found 9 mouse buttons [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s) [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found relative axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found x and y relative axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found absolute axes [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Found keys [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as mouse [15.300] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: Configuring as keyboard [15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 [15.300] (**) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 [15.300] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (type: KEYBOARD) [15.301] (II) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: initialized for relative axes. [15.301] (WW) MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse: ignoring absolute axes. [15.301] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MLK OX-1100 wireless Laser Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0) However, 10 of the 12 buttons work, not just the 9 that it found. I've tried to google a picture of the mouse, I see no info on Teac mice even on the Teac website. The buttons are zoom buttons that I suppose are activated by a Windows driver on the OS that the package states that it supports. Thanks in advance for any advice on how to continue! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Haifux mailing list hai...@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Haifux] Getting mouse buttons to work
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 16:19, Leon Romanovsky l...@leon.nu wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 16:10, Shahar Dag d...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote: Hi dotan This is from Ubunto, so it may not work for you try xinput list to see if you get any useful data (use xinput list | grep 'id=' to find mice id) if you can get data, then you can use xinput set-button-map to try and set buttons Shahar Thanks, Shahar. For some reason I did not get your mail, I only see it in the reply. Could you tell me to where it was addressed, I wonder how much other mail I'm missing. The mouse works, and does show up in xinput. Only the two Zoom buttons do not work. I've tried remapping the buttons but nothing got any output from those Zoom buttons. Hi Dotan, What is your X.org version ? ✈ganymede:~$ aptitude show xorg Package: xorg State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1:7.5+6ubuntu3 I also tried on a Debian Squeeze partition, I'm not sure what version x.org was there but according to distrowatch it should have been 1.7.7. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: wiping files
2011/2/9 shimi linux...@shimi.net On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net wrote: Thank you. Wiping files is part of pretty good privacy (PGP) - if you want privacy you need to wipe your deleted files. I would trust having them all at encrypted-state at all times (and avoiding using swap) to be a must better approach. I couldn't care less if someone takes my random data which he has no key for, and read it for fun... I suspect this is not too different than reading /dev/random. -- Shimi That's the concept for ZFS secure deletion. As per http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/5793-Secure-Deletion-with-ZFS.html : snip Use encryption and when you want to delete the data throw away the matching key. snip And this is exactly the way, secure deletion will be done with ZFS. It´s done by encryption. You will be able to define an encryption key by dataset and when you want to delete a dataset securely just throw a way the key. Remember that creating a dataset is as easy as creating a directory in ZFS. ZFS Crypto will be the solution for the secure delete challenge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: wiping files
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 21:30, Michael Tewner tew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/9 shimi linux...@shimi.net On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net wrote: Thank you. Wiping files is part of pretty good privacy (PGP) - if you want privacy you need to wipe your deleted files. I would trust having them all at encrypted-state at all times (and avoiding using swap) to be a must better approach. I couldn't care less if someone takes my random data which he has no key for, and read it for fun... I suspect this is not too different than reading /dev/random. -- Shimi That's the concept for ZFS secure deletion. As per http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/5793-Secure-Deletion-with-ZFS.html : snip Use encryption and when you want to delete the data throw away the matching key. snip And this is exactly the way, secure deletion will be done with ZFS. It´s done by encryption. You will be able to define an encryption key by dataset and when you want to delete a dataset securely just throw a way the key. Remember that creating a dataset is as easy as creating a directory in ZFS. ZFS Crypto will be the solution for the secure delete challenge. Secure deletion is different than encryption! Remember that no encryption is 100% safe. With encryption it's still possible to read your data, if somebody finds your key; it's possible that in the future they will be able to decrypt those encryptions; and you might even give the key. With secure deletion it's not possible. Once you delete files they are gone! If somebody is able to read them then it's not secure deletion. And if you have a file you want to encrypt, you should securely delete the original file after encryption, otherwise you didn't do anything. If you just encrypt the file and delete the original file (not securely), then it's still on your hard disk! Secure deletion is very important. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
