Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange

2007-10-12 Thread Marc Volovic
Yes - we're using Zimbra and some of my peers are using Zimbra or Scalix. Fine 
enough.

I am actually quite happy with Zimbra - there are some annoyances (its 
NON-interop with Nokia e-series mobiles, eg) but otherwise it works very well.

M

- Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks,
 anyone has real experience in using them in a real business
 environment?
 
 
 On 10/11/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You might want to checkout Scalix, OpenGroupware.org and
 openXchange,
  all of which have (more or less) all the features you mentioned.
 
 
  OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access,
 but
  it's pretty cheap.
 
 
  I think Scalix provides the Outlook connector for free, but
 requires
  that you use a premium user with the connector. The first 25
 premium
  users in the community edition of Scalix are free, but when you
 need
  more premium users, you need to buy licenses for them. The number
 of
  standard users in Scalix is unlimited in the free (community)
 edition,
  but standard users only have email, and can't collaborate/share
 calendars.
 
 
  Access to mobile phones and PDAs might have to go through Funambol
 -
  you'll need to check that out. I had no need for this, so I didn't
  bother with it last time I looked around for an exchange
 replacement.
 
 
  Open-Xchange -
 http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html
 
  OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/
 
  Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/
 
 
 
  Hope this helps,
 
 
  Lior
 
 
  Dvir Volk wrote:
 
   Hi list,
  
   My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15
 employees,
   probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our
 current
   mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution.
  
   Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows
 of a
   full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support
 it
   or at least install it and guide us, in Israel.
   our requirements are:
  
   Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from
 Win
   (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our
 own
   dedicated server.
  
   Any advice?
  
   Dvir
  
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Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange

2007-10-12 Thread Marc Volovic
It is NOT too much a hassle to set up. All you need to do is:

  1. Call the IT person into the room
  2. Make a serious and intimidating face
  3. Using a grave tone, say - Nir - you will install Scalix tomorrow. I want 
it done yesterday

M

- Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/10/2007, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access,
 but
  it's pretty cheap.
 
 
 Last time I tried to look at openXchange (in order to learn about an
 exchange alternative when I hoped I'll be asked for it) it looked a
 pretty
 complicated task to set it up. Is this true or did I get the wrong
 impression?
 
 And as Dvir asked already - does anyone here have true real-life
 experience
 setting up and using any of these solutions to report about?
 
 Thanks,
 
 --Amos


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Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange

2007-10-12 Thread Shachar Shemesh
You got it all wrong!

Marc Volovic wrote:
 It is NOT too much a hassle to set up. All you need to do is:

   1. Call the IT person into the room
   2. Make a serious and intimidating face
   3. Using a grave tone, say - Nir - you will install Scalix tomorrow. I 
 want it done yesterday
   
That's the procedure for REMOVING OpenExchange!
 M

 - Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Last time I tried to look at openXchange (in order to learn about an
 exchange alternative when I hoped I'll be asked for it) it looked a
 pretty
 complicated task to set it up. Is this true or did I get the wrong
 impression?
 
Shachar

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Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange

2007-10-12 Thread Moshe Leibovitch

Sure, but what interests me is the integration they offer
between groupware applications and clients with current technology
that support all of it.
I'm looking for something similar to the addon
Geva Zeichner wrote for Gmail.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2879

(You see, I managed to avoid the w2 word :) )


On 12/10/2007 00:17, Lior Okman wrote:


All of these support IMAP for regular mail, so you can use the mail 
client of your choice for email.



Lior


Moshe Leibovitch wrote:


Any updates regarding Hebrew support for any of them?
 ( mainly composing editor supporting RTL )

On 11/10/2007 18:49, Lior Okman wrote:
--snip--


Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html

OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/

Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/



Hope this helps,


Lior


Dvir Volk wrote:


Hi list,

--snip--
Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win
(Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own
dedicated server.

Any advice?

Dvir


--snip--



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Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange

2007-10-12 Thread Gil Freund
On 10/11/07, Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks,
 anyone has real experience in using them in a real business environment?

Yes. both with Scalix and Zimbra.
Both are robust and offer a much richer web interface then Exchange.
Both offer superior backup and restore mechanism then Exchange.
In the two environment used, Hebrew on the Web interface is not an
requirement.  Outlook was using with Scalix and no issues were
reported regarding Hebrew.

Outlook connectors are a problem on Internet environment. RPC over SSL
is not an option, so other tunneling solutions are required (IPsec,
stunnel or ssh), which is annoying for user (but if they insist on
outlook...)

Scalix is closer in functionality and interface to Exchange, which is
rather limiting. Zimbra has more features (tagging, integration with
spam filters, a richer rule set).

They are not cheap. Don't go there to save money on licensing. They
are also licensed yearly. They are more robust then exchange and have
smaller infrastructure demands (Windows Servers and AD)


 On 10/11/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You might want to checkout Scalix, OpenGroupware.org and openXchange,
  all of which have (more or less) all the features you mentioned.
 
 
  OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access, but
  it's pretty cheap.
 
 
  I think Scalix provides the Outlook connector for free, but requires
  that you use a premium user with the connector. The first 25 premium
  users in the community edition of Scalix are free, but when you need
  more premium users, you need to buy licenses for them. The number of
  standard users in Scalix is unlimited in the free (community) edition,
  but standard users only have email, and can't collaborate/share calendars.
 
 
  Access to mobile phones and PDAs might have to go through Funambol -
  you'll need to check that out. I had no need for this, so I didn't
  bother with it last time I looked around for an exchange replacement.
 
 
  Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html
 
  OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/
 
  Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/
 
 
 
  Hope this helps,
 
 
  Lior
 
 
  Dvir Volk wrote:
 
   Hi list,
  
   My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15 employees,
   probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our current
   mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution.
  
   Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a
   full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support it
   or at least install it and guide us, in Israel.
   our requirements are:
  
   Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win
   (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own
   dedicated server.
  
   Any advice?
  
   Dvir
  
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