Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
Yes - we're using Zimbra and some of my peers are using Zimbra or Scalix. Fine enough. I am actually quite happy with Zimbra - there are some annoyances (its NON-interop with Nokia e-series mobiles, eg) but otherwise it works very well. M - Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, anyone has real experience in using them in a real business environment? On 10/11/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to checkout Scalix, OpenGroupware.org and openXchange, all of which have (more or less) all the features you mentioned. OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access, but it's pretty cheap. I think Scalix provides the Outlook connector for free, but requires that you use a premium user with the connector. The first 25 premium users in the community edition of Scalix are free, but when you need more premium users, you need to buy licenses for them. The number of standard users in Scalix is unlimited in the free (community) edition, but standard users only have email, and can't collaborate/share calendars. Access to mobile phones and PDAs might have to go through Funambol - you'll need to check that out. I had no need for this, so I didn't bother with it last time I looked around for an exchange replacement. Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/ Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/ Hope this helps, Lior Dvir Volk wrote: Hi list, My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15 employees, probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our current mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution. Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support it or at least install it and guide us, in Israel. our requirements are: Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own dedicated server. Any advice? Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
It is NOT too much a hassle to set up. All you need to do is: 1. Call the IT person into the room 2. Make a serious and intimidating face 3. Using a grave tone, say - Nir - you will install Scalix tomorrow. I want it done yesterday M - Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/2007, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access, but it's pretty cheap. Last time I tried to look at openXchange (in order to learn about an exchange alternative when I hoped I'll be asked for it) it looked a pretty complicated task to set it up. Is this true or did I get the wrong impression? And as Dvir asked already - does anyone here have true real-life experience setting up and using any of these solutions to report about? Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
You got it all wrong! Marc Volovic wrote: It is NOT too much a hassle to set up. All you need to do is: 1. Call the IT person into the room 2. Make a serious and intimidating face 3. Using a grave tone, say - Nir - you will install Scalix tomorrow. I want it done yesterday That's the procedure for REMOVING OpenExchange! M - Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I tried to look at openXchange (in order to learn about an exchange alternative when I hoped I'll be asked for it) it looked a pretty complicated task to set it up. Is this true or did I get the wrong impression? Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
Sure, but what interests me is the integration they offer between groupware applications and clients with current technology that support all of it. I'm looking for something similar to the addon Geva Zeichner wrote for Gmail. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2879 (You see, I managed to avoid the w2 word :) ) On 12/10/2007 00:17, Lior Okman wrote: All of these support IMAP for regular mail, so you can use the mail client of your choice for email. Lior Moshe Leibovitch wrote: Any updates regarding Hebrew support for any of them? ( mainly composing editor supporting RTL ) On 11/10/2007 18:49, Lior Okman wrote: --snip-- Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/ Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/ Hope this helps, Lior Dvir Volk wrote: Hi list, --snip-- Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own dedicated server. Any advice? Dvir --snip-- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Moshe Leibovitch CEO MLN Computerized Systems Ltd. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Moshe.Leibovitch Mobile: +972-546-484411 Phone: +972-3-5407371 Fax:+972-3-5407371 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
On 10/11/07, Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, anyone has real experience in using them in a real business environment? Yes. both with Scalix and Zimbra. Both are robust and offer a much richer web interface then Exchange. Both offer superior backup and restore mechanism then Exchange. In the two environment used, Hebrew on the Web interface is not an requirement. Outlook was using with Scalix and no issues were reported regarding Hebrew. Outlook connectors are a problem on Internet environment. RPC over SSL is not an option, so other tunneling solutions are required (IPsec, stunnel or ssh), which is annoying for user (but if they insist on outlook...) Scalix is closer in functionality and interface to Exchange, which is rather limiting. Zimbra has more features (tagging, integration with spam filters, a richer rule set). They are not cheap. Don't go there to save money on licensing. They are also licensed yearly. They are more robust then exchange and have smaller infrastructure demands (Windows Servers and AD) On 10/11/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to checkout Scalix, OpenGroupware.org and openXchange, all of which have (more or less) all the features you mentioned. OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access, but it's pretty cheap. I think Scalix provides the Outlook connector for free, but requires that you use a premium user with the connector. The first 25 premium users in the community edition of Scalix are free, but when you need more premium users, you need to buy licenses for them. The number of standard users in Scalix is unlimited in the free (community) edition, but standard users only have email, and can't collaborate/share calendars. Access to mobile phones and PDAs might have to go through Funambol - you'll need to check that out. I had no need for this, so I didn't bother with it last time I looked around for an exchange replacement. Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/ Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/ Hope this helps, Lior Dvir Volk wrote: Hi list, My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15 employees, probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our current mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution. Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support it or at least install it and guide us, in Israel. our requirements are: Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own dedicated server. Any advice? Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]