Re: Linux reference

2007-11-26 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: Linux reference:
 What is missing, IMHO, is a real MSDN like site. Something that will
 give a spread of the man pages and header files with a search engine.

I agree that lately it seems that the Web has become everything, but really,
in this case, why do you want to have this information on the Web, and not
locally? Wouldn't it be better to some program (a beefed up version of xman,
tkman, pinfo, or whatever) that give you access to the man pages, header files,
javadocs, info files, documentation PDFs, READMEs and so on and so on *on
your system*? This will have several benefits over a Web version:

* The information you get is true to your exact system and the software
  versions you have - not more and not less.
* The information is always there and always quick (this is becoming less
  and less of an issue, but sometimes still matters).

Unlike Microsoft's MSDN, which can (somewhat) cleanly divide the information
it gives into in Windows XP, , while in Windows VISTA,  in Linux
this would be almost impossible - for every search you perform, there will be
a different answer for Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, an answer for Linux 2.4 vs. 2.6,
for Glibc version X vs. version Y, for ten-thousand different packages you may
or may not have installed, with ten versions each, and so on and so on.
This is why I think it would be easier to create a system that searched for
information on your system, which is relevant to your system.

 Ok, not really MSDN like. It will be more useful to allow the user to
 limit the search to a specific subsection of the site.

Indeed.


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Re: Linux reference

2007-11-26 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Shachar Shemesh wrote:



What is missing, IMHO, is a real MSDN like site. Something that will
give a spread of the man pages and header files with a search engine.


You mean like this: http://linux.die.net/ ;-)?

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Re: Linux reference

2007-11-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 Shachar Shemesh wrote:


 What is missing, IMHO, is a real MSDN like site. Something that will
 give a spread of the man pages and header files with a search engine.

 You mean like this: http://linux.die.net/ ;-)?

EXACTLY like it. Now if only someone would do that, it would be great.

Shachar

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Re: Linux reference

2007-11-26 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
I have some links to
http://swoolley.org/man.cgi
http://kerneltrap.org/man/linux
And I'll add more
( this site works better in frames)

On Nov 26, 2007 12:14 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
  Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 
 
  What is missing, IMHO, is a real MSDN like site. Something that will
  give a spread of the man pages and header files with a search engine.
 
  You mean like this: http://linux.die.net/ ;-)?
 
 EXACTLY like it. Now if only someone would do that, it would be great.

 Shachar




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Re: using only left alt-shift for language changing

2007-11-26 Thread Boaz Rymland
Hi,


I'm not sure about the second criteria (without any other key presses)
but I use the following configuration in KDE to have switching to hebrew
on Alt+ *LEFT* shift :

In xorg.conf I have:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbLayout us,il
EndSection

In KDE control panel there is:

- Hebrew layout defined (regional  accessibility - keyboard layout).

- Of course - Make caps lock additional Control ! ;-) (keyboard layout
- Xkb options tab)

Now, leave KDE setting for layout switching on Ctrl+Alt+k. Now logout of
KD to your console. Edit $HOME/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and edit the
line Switch to Next Keyboard Layout to something like Alt+Shift_L
(no quotes), if only Left shift specification is enough for you. Never
tried specifying Alt_L or something like that.


Good luck,

Boaz.


Micha Feigin wrote:

 I am currently using alt-shift to toggle the input language in X (so that
 others using the machine don't get confused trying to switch to hebrew). the
 problem is that there are some required shell and emacs commands that need 
 both
 alt and shift (such as Meta-% in emacs and Alt- in bash).

 Is there a way to limit group switching in X to just the left-alt + left-shift
 combination or even better, only when no other extra character was pressed?

 thanks


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collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread Maxim Veksler
Hi,

I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed
writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.

It looked great, felt awesome and I can't find it anywhere.

Anyone knows what I'm talking about?


Thank you,
Maxim.

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Re: collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread Ori Idan
You are talking about a Wiki system.
There are lot of Wiki systems some of them with hebrew support.

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On Nov 26, 2007 4:07 PM, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed
 writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
 It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.

 It looked great, felt awesome and I can't find it anywhere.

 Anyone knows what I'm talking about?


 Thank you,
 Maxim.

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Asus EEE and hebrew

2007-11-26 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi people,

This is not a job offer, but just an idea that if someone to pick it
up.. maybe he could make few shekels :)

As many of you know, Asus is selling a very low cost notebook EEE PC
for around $399 and it's quite a hit everywhere.

The Israeli representative is RonLight (www.ronlight.co.il - don't
bother looking at the site with Firefox, it's terrible) and they plan
to bring it to Israel and sell it (I don't know for how much).

One thing that they will need to do is to add hebrew, so since this
EEE is running Xandros (which is debian based), the hebrew adding
stuff should be quite simple, although might require some translations
(since it's not standard KDE).

I'm not RonLight representative and I don't have any connection to
them, but if someone wants, he/she could contact them and maybe do
some contract work to make deb packages of Hebrew for EEE which will
be added here in Israel to the sold machines.

I'm just tossing the idea in the air, if someone wants to do
something. I'm sure many Israelies would love to buy this nice
notebook with Hebrew on it.

For those who want to read, I wrote a small review on this machine at
my blog: http://witch.dyndns.org/wp/?p=284

Thanks,
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Re: collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread Maxim Veksler
On Nov 26, 2007 4:28 PM, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are talking about a Wiki system.
 There are lot of Wiki systems some of them with hebrew support.


Not exactly. I'm talking about a interface where you write documents
with your peers in real time. You see their changes and they see
yours.

I'm planning to use it to write design documents and co.

Maxim.

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 On Nov 26, 2007 4:07 PM, Maxim Veksler  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed
  writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
  It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.
 
  It looked great, felt awesome and I can't find it anywhere.
 
  Anyone knows what I'm talking about?
 
 
  Thank you,
  Maxim.
 
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Re: Asus EEE and hebrew

2007-11-26 Thread Oded Arbel

On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 16:38 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 As many of you know, Asus is selling a very low cost notebook EEE PC
 for around $399 and it's quite a hit everywhere.
 
 The Israeli representative is RonLight (www.ronlight.co.il - don't
 bother looking at the site with Firefox, it's terrible) and they plan
 to bring it to Israel and sell it (I don't know for how much).
 
 One thing that they will need to do is to add hebrew, so since this
 EEE is running Xandros (which is debian based)

I'm also not related at all to Ronlight, but the EeePC can also run
MS-Windows XP and as Ronlight looks like a total MS shop (they sell
Hebrew software support for MS-Windows running mobile devices) I would
think that they probably intend to sell the Eee PC as a MS-Windows
device.

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RE: collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread ronys
Google Documents (http://docs.google.com/) can be used in the manner you 
described.

Rony 

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On Nov 26, 2007 4:28 PM, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are talking about a Wiki system.
 There are lot of Wiki systems some of them with hebrew support.


Not exactly. I'm talking about a interface where you write documents with your 
peers in real time. You see their changes and they see yours.

I'm planning to use it to write design documents and co.

Maxim.

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 On Nov 26, 2007 4:07 PM, Maxim Veksler  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed 
  writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
  It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.
 
  It looked great, felt awesome and I can't find it anywhere.
 
  Anyone knows what I'm talking about?
 
 
  Thank you,
  Maxim.
 
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Re: collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בNovember 2007, Maxim Veksler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed
 writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
 It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.

Even better (no stinking web interfaces ;-)

  http://gobby.0x539.de/

Packaged (at least) for Debian and Fedora. Claims it has
a Windows version (didn't check).

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Re: Asus EEE and hebrew

2007-11-26 Thread Boaz Rymland
The following (Hebrew) article adds more interesting info about this
cool gadget, indeed, and doesn't hint that the localization will be made
with M$. I sure hope that'll be the final direction they'll choose as well:

http://www.haaretz.co.il/captain/pages/ShArtCaptain.jhtml?contrassID=11subContrassID=0sbSubContrassID=0itemNo=926090


Boaz.



Oded Arbel wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 16:38 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   
 As many of you know, Asus is selling a very low cost notebook EEE PC
 for around $399 and it's quite a hit everywhere.

 The Israeli representative is RonLight (www.ronlight.co.il - don't
 bother looking at the site with Firefox, it's terrible) and they plan
 to bring it to Israel and sell it (I don't know for how much).

 One thing that they will need to do is to add hebrew, so since this
 EEE is running Xandros (which is debian based)
 

 I'm also not related at all to Ronlight, but the EeePC can also run
 MS-Windows XP and as Ronlight looks like a total MS shop (they sell
 Hebrew software support for MS-Windows running mobile devices) I would
 think that they probably intend to sell the Eee PC as a MS-Windows
 device.

   

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Re: collaborative online document writing software

2007-11-26 Thread Maxim Veksler
On Nov 26, 2007 11:21 PM, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday, 26 בNovember 2007, Maxim Veksler wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I remember once someone posted on this list a project that allowed
  writing documents online simultaneously by several users.
  It did this by exposing a web interface with some ajax calls behind it.

 Even better (no stinking web interfaces ;-)

   http://gobby.0x539.de/


Well, had I wanted to go install stuff - ACE[1] looks pretty cool.

Point being that I want that stinking web interface, I love it.
Look what zoho.com managed to do with it.

Never the less, thanks Oron for the gobby pointer.

[1] http://ace.iserver.ch/index.php

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