Hebrew-friendly list server on Linux?

2008-01-27 Thread ronys
Hi,

I'm looking for a mailing list server that is meant to serve a few hundred 
users. The catch is that these are non-technical users who will correspond only 
in Hebrew.

My first solution, Yahoo groups, is a big failure due to the number of users 
who complain about gibberish in their inbox.

Can anyone recommend a decent solution, either hosted or something thatI can 
install on my own Linux server? Note that the admin interface doesn't have to 
be in Hebrew, only the user-facing side.

Thanks,

Rony


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Re: Hebrew-friendly list server on Linux?

2008-01-27 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham


Mailman?

  - yba


On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, ronys wrote:


Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:00:09 +0200
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Subject: Hebrew-friendly list server on Linux?

Hi,

I'm looking for a mailing list server that is meant to serve a few hundred 
users. The catch is that these are non-technical users who will correspond only 
in Hebrew.

My first solution, Yahoo groups, is a big failure due to the number of users who complain 
about gibberish in their inbox.

Can anyone recommend a decent solution, either hosted or something thatI can 
install on my own Linux server? Note that the admin interface doesn't have to 
be in Hebrew, only the user-facing side.

Thanks,

Rony


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Re: Hebrew-friendly list server on Linux?

2008-01-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:



Mailman?
Mailman is ok for most things, but some things are horrible with Hebrew. 
It does not transfer the encoding properly for asking to authorize 
moderated emails, and doesn't handle the Hebrew encoding properly.


Sometimes I wish there would be some law requiring everyone to work with 
Unicode


  - yba

Shachar

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Paper journals

2008-01-27 Thread Leonid Podolny

Hi,
My employer considers purchasing a subscription to some linux journals. 
I mean, paper (aka hardcopy) ones. The intended public is developers, 
not sales/management, so it must be sufficiently technical. Can someone 
recommend something specific?

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Re: Hebrew-friendly list server on Linux?

2008-01-27 Thread Moshe Gorohovsky

Hi,

I extensively used mailman-2.1.9 on Debian Etch, at a government
ministry. We sent (and they are sending now) mails in Hebrew.
There were no complaints, at least about Hebrew (there were complains
about Mailman and MS Outlook interoperability with regard to mail
headers).

We tested every mail distribution before sending it to actual
recipients, there was no gibberish in Outlook, gmail, yahoo,
and eudora(?).

- Moshe.

Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:



Mailman?
Mailman is ok for most things, but some things are horrible with Hebrew. 
It does not transfer the encoding properly for asking to authorize 
moderated emails, and doesn't handle the Hebrew encoding properly.


Sometimes I wish there would be some law requiring everyone to work with 
Unicode


  - yba

Shachar

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Re: Paper journals

2008-01-27 Thread Marc Volovic
Dr. Dobbs

- Leonid Podolny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 My employer considers purchasing a subscription to some linux
 journals. 
 I mean, paper (aka hardcopy) ones. The intended public is developers,
 
 not sales/management, so it must be sufficiently technical. Can
 someone 
 recommend something specific?
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Re: Paper journals

2008-01-27 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi,

I have to tell you the truth, it is a waste of money and trees.

Nothing in a hardcopy magazine can't be found in online magazine - even those 
that are subscription based.

Don't kill any more tree just so that it sits in the office to collect dust.

Just my 2cents.

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 Hi,
 My employer considers purchasing a subscription to some linux journals.
 I mean, paper (aka hardcopy) ones. The intended public is developers,
 not sales/management, so it must be sufficiently technical. Can someone
 recommend something specific?



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Arch Linux xorg and old thinkpad A21p laptop

2008-01-27 Thread ik
Hello List,

I'm tring to help some one to rescue an old laptop (thinkpad A21p)
with 128M ram. So I have installed arch linux inside. Everything went
well, until I tried to work with xorg.
It seems that X just ignores my settings of resolution and color
depth, and even worse, from time to time, it either go all while (the
screen) or black and the entire machine get stack (even the sys resque
magic does not work). This happens to me only with arch linux's xorg.
I have tried it using xubuntu (that had other issues, like malformed
drivers of orinoco, but not related to x), and even DSL, and non of
them had this type of problem.

I created the xorg.conf using X -configure and even when i changed the
support for depth to 1 bit and the resolution to 640x480 (very small
for a 15 lcd), it just place 800x600 and 24 bit color. It also
display half a screen, the content of X, then it have blank until a
point it painting the screen again like it is on origin 0,0.

Any ideas what I should look for, and what might cause such issues ?

Thanks,
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Re: Arch Linux xorg and old thinkpad A21p laptop

2008-01-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

I'm not sure if Arch Linux is the best choice (I had tons of problems
with their packaging few months ago).

You can try to use vesa driver in the xorg.conf and it should let you
have X although non accelerated. It really depends which chipset is
inside this machine (in the IBM World, A21p is not enough as there
are some models of A21p, you should also check what the computer
type is (it's in the bottom of the machine, 3 letters, 4 numbers) or
use /sbin/lspci to see what graphics chip you got.

After setting it to VESA, you can play with the driver so you can
always at least have some stable config.

As Gil said, 128MB is too small ram if you plan to run any desktop
(GNOME, KDE, Enlightment). You can use the lighter (fvwm, icewm,
blackwm, amiwm etc..) window management plus some lite apps.

Thanks,
Hetz

On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello List,

 I'm tring to help some one to rescue an old laptop (thinkpad A21p)
 with 128M ram. So I have installed arch linux inside. Everything went
 well, until I tried to work with xorg.
 It seems that X just ignores my settings of resolution and color
 depth, and even worse, from time to time, it either go all while (the
 screen) or black and the entire machine get stack (even the sys resque
 magic does not work). This happens to me only with arch linux's xorg.
 I have tried it using xubuntu (that had other issues, like malformed
 drivers of orinoco, but not related to x), and even DSL, and non of
 them had this type of problem.

 I created the xorg.conf using X -configure and even when i changed the
 support for depth to 1 bit and the resolution to 640x480 (very small
 for a 15 lcd), it just place 800x600 and 24 bit color. It also
 display half a screen, the content of X, then it have blank until a
 point it painting the screen again like it is on origin 0,0.

 Any ideas what I should look for, and what might cause such issues ?

 Thanks,
 Ido
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RE: Arch Linux xorg and old thinkpad A21p laptop

2008-01-27 Thread Gil Bahat
The first thing to look for is the version of the X packages (are there new 
ones in the distro? And the uplink?). If the versions match the ones by DSL and 
xubuntu, then it's either patches not integrated by arch linux or difference in 
the generated xfree86 files (compare the two, but that seems less likely to me).

make sure that the right driver gets used, it might be picking up the 
framebuffer or vesa drivers for some reason.

Also on the subject, I would also suggest that you get some extra memory for 
it, the difference between 128mb and 320mb is huge. It's still very much viable 
as a student laptop, if upgraded. 

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:59 PM
To: linux-il
Subject: Arch Linux xorg and old thinkpad A21p laptop

Hello List,

I'm tring to help some one to rescue an old laptop (thinkpad A21p)
with 128M ram. So I have installed arch linux inside. Everything went
well, until I tried to work with xorg.
It seems that X just ignores my settings of resolution and color
depth, and even worse, from time to time, it either go all while (the
screen) or black and the entire machine get stack (even the sys resque
magic does not work). This happens to me only with arch linux's xorg.
I have tried it using xubuntu (that had other issues, like malformed
drivers of orinoco, but not related to x), and even DSL, and non of
them had this type of problem.

I created the xorg.conf using X -configure and even when i changed the
support for depth to 1 bit and the resolution to 640x480 (very small
for a 15 lcd), it just place 800x600 and 24 bit color. It also
display half a screen, the content of X, then it have blank until a
point it painting the screen again like it is on origin 0,0.

Any ideas what I should look for, and what might cause such issues ?

Thanks,
Ido
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Finding porn links in hacked web pages

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Yesterday my wife went to a perfectly normal web page and after
a few seconds a porn page replaced it. 

I looked at the HTML page source and found that at the bottom of the
page were hundreds of links, which did not belong there. I called
the publisher of the page, and he determined that his server had been
hacked and the links added. 

He is not technicaly inclined at all, and does not have the ability
to check his pages without going to each one in a browser and looking
at the page source. He has thousands of pages and runs the site as
a Jewish news site, with no income.

I was thinking that I could write a program that scans each of his
web pages using wget or lynx to download them, but don't want to 
start writing code if it has been already done. 

Any suggestions? 

Thanks in advance, Geoff.

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Re: Finding porn links in hacked web pages

2008-01-27 Thread Omer Zak
The method which I use is to:
1. Perform periodic backup of the entire Web site, including SQL dumps
of any databases driving it.
2. Download the backup files to PC.
3. Open them (into a subdirectory and import into a new DB instance,
respectively).
4. Run 'diff' between the opened files and the previous backup.

For regular files, use 'diff'.  For DB comparison of two MySQL DBs, I
use a Python script, which I wrote.
   --- Omer

On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
 Yesterday my wife went to a perfectly normal web page and after
 a few seconds a porn page replaced it. 
 
 I looked at the HTML page source and found that at the bottom of the
 page were hundreds of links, which did not belong there. I called
 the publisher of the page, and he determined that his server had been
 hacked and the links added. 
 
 He is not technicaly inclined at all, and does not have the ability
 to check his pages without going to each one in a browser and looking
 at the page source. He has thousands of pages and runs the site as
 a Jewish news site, with no income.
 
 I was thinking that I could write a program that scans each of his
 web pages using wget or lynx to download them, but don't want to 
 start writing code if it has been already done. 
 
 Any suggestions? 

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