Linux Video Contest
Hi, In the Linux Video Contest: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/contest/winners A Israeli guy one first place. Kodos to Amitay -- Regards, Noam Rathaus CTO Beyond Security Join Beyond Security in London at Infosecurity Europe, April 28-30, Booth M71 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux Video Contest
one first place. How many first places did you expect? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux Video Contest
Hi, Of course I meant won first place and not one Thank you for spotting that. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: one first place. How many first places did you expect? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux Video Contest
Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, Of course I meant "won first place" and not "one" Thank you for spotting that. In any case, Amitay deserves to be #1. The clip is outstanding. -- Micha On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: one first place. How many first places did you expect? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
culmus dictionary
Aparantly it takes a mathematitian to make a dictionary as well :-) http://culmus.sourceforge.net/dictionary/ I tried to rebuild his scripts and ran into some problems. Aparantly #!/usr/bin/perl -C63 gives an error about 'Too late for -C63 option' I just removed them for the time being. I also needed to install libxml-libxml-perl and dictfmt and managed to sort-of build the things. Any idea how much load does a public dictd incure? Any volunteers to set up one? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux Video Contest
Hi, In the Linux Video Contest: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/contest/winners A Israeli guy one first place. Kodos to Amitay Wow, that really was a great video. The other two were horrible. The first one makes Linux look like a disease, and the second make Linux look like a lame joke. Amitay did a great job with the idea, the graphics, and the execution. Very, very nice. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Web sites that don't adhere to the W3C standards
Every now and then we complain about one of the Israeli web sites that don't work in Firefox. AFAIK the usual response is that they should build their site based on the W3C standards. I thought it must be something good that large International web aware companies must already do so I checked Google.com, Yahoo.com and just so we can laugh MSN.com http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle.com%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654 From the three only MSN passed the validation. So why do the other two disregard the standard? Do they care less about Firefox than Microsoft? Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OT] Always Innovating TouchBook - A Linux based Netbook
Hi All, I found this gadget and thought I'd share... When do you think it will be available in Israel? TouchBook https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Web sites that don't adhere to the W3C standards
Hi Gabor! And everybody. On Monday 13 April 2009 17:23:24 Gabor Szabo wrote: Every now and then we complain about one of the Israeli web sites that don't work in Firefox. AFAIK the usual response is that they should build their site based on the W3C standards. I thought it must be something good that large International web aware companies must already do so I checked Google.com, Yahoo.com and just so we can laugh MSN.com http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle.com%2Fcharset=(detec t+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fcharset=(de tect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fcharset=(dete ct+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654 (sorry for breaking the URLs - see the original message for the unbroken ones) From the three only MSN passed the validation. So why do the other two disregard the standard? Do they care less about Firefox than Microsoft? First of all, one should understand that many not-entirely-valid sites (or even some that are very non-standards-compliant) will still be displayed well by Firefox and other major browsers. Firefox and other browsers attempt to do- the-right-thing when encountering markup or code that's not entirely standards compliant. Otherwise, we could expect many pages that are either old or poorly coded to break there. Now, what Google does is serve markup that is extremely optimised for being small, and as a result completely non-valid, that is still handled correctly by Firefox, MSIE, and other browsers. I'm pretty sure Google cares about Firefox and that its workers test their pages with it, but they still opted to prefer increasing the download/display speed of their pages (which is roughly proportional to the size of the data sent to the browser) while making their markup non-valid. I don't know about Yahoo for sure. As for msn.com - I don't know why Microsoft went into the effort of making their pages valid, but we should applaud them for this fact. One should note that even if pages are valid, they may still not work well on various browsers, and may have other usability or accessibility problems. [MSN-on-FF] But it's still a step in the right direction, To sum up, if a site validates, then it's a good thing. But it still doesn't preclude (or guarantee) that it will have other compatibility, usability or accessibility issues. One should look at the general state of a site's quality, and not just what the validator says. Regards, Shlomi Fish [MSN-on-FF] - I don't recall MSN.com pages breaking on Firefox, but I haven't visited MSN.com often. I seem to have read on http://www.joelonsoftware.com/ that the online version of MSDN (The MS Developer Network) used to work only on IE (and possibly still only works on it), but I don't know what the current situation is. Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/ways_to_do_it.html God gave us two eyes and ten fingers so we will type five times as much as we read. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Perl hack - fooling isatty() ?
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IrDA dongle ceased to work when I upgraded to Debian Lenny
Using lsusb, the dongle in question identifies itself as: ID 050f:0180 KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 IrDA Dongle When I used Debian Etch, the device /dev/irda0 was automatically created and all worked out of the box. After upgrade to Debian Lenny, the udev-created device changed, due to some mysterious reason, to /dev/ttyUSB0 and now the dongle does not work out of the box (does not connect to my cellphone using 'ircp -r' unlike in the Etch era). Does anyone know what changed and whathow to change so that it'll work again? Thanks, --- Omer -- Delay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IrDA dongle ceased to work when I upgraded to Debian Lenny
Hi Omer, This could be from the hotplug script not knowing what to do with your dongle. My suggestion would be: 1. see whats your system writes to /var/log/messages 2. rmmod the module and modprobe it while the device is connected. By doing modprobe, it should do all the stuff needed (create device, show the device name in /var/log/messages) and show some status about it. Hope this helps, Hetz On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: Using lsusb, the dongle in question identifies itself as: ID 050f:0180 KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 IrDA Dongle When I used Debian Etch, the device /dev/irda0 was automatically created and all worked out of the box. After upgrade to Debian Lenny, the udev-created device changed, due to some mysterious reason, to /dev/ttyUSB0 and now the dongle does not work out of the box (does not connect to my cellphone using 'ircp -r' unlike in the Etch era). Does anyone know what changed and whathow to change so that it'll work again? Thanks, --- Omer -- Delay is the deadliest form of denial. C. Northcote Parkinson My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IrDA dongle ceased to work when I upgraded to Debian Lenny
I tried dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Choosing serial device, it offers the default 'irda0' as serial device
file for IrDA.
For dongle type I tried both 'none', 'actisys', 'actisys+' (I read
somewhere that my dongle is 'actisys').
The command produces the following output:
=
# dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Stopping IrDA service: irattach.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
*
* The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
*
Starting IrDA service: irattach.
=
In the /var/log/everything/current, I see the following messages:
=
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] + FATAL: Module irda0 not found.
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Trying to load module irda0 exited with
status 1
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo c2
/proc/sys/net/irda/devname'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo 1
/proc/sys/net/irda/discovery'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Starting device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Stopping device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] exiting ..._
=
The kernel does have the module 'irda' as the
file /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/net/irda/irda.ko
The /etc/modules.conf file has (among lots of other stuff) the following
lines, and I don't know if and what to do with them:
=
options ali-ircc
alias irda0 ali-ircc
=
In /etc/udev/rules.d I had an IrDA rule when I used Debian Sarge, but
the rule was removed for Debian Etch because IrDA worked out of the box
for me there. When reinstating the rule for Debian Lenny, the IrDA
dongle did not work for me. The rule which I tried was (or something
similar):
BUS==usb, SYSFS{product}==IRExpress USB IrDA Controller,
NAME==usb/%k, SYMLINK+=usb/irda-usb
Of course, Google did not find for me anything relevant.
--- Omer
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 00:06 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Omer,
This could be from the hotplug script not knowing what to do with your
dongle.
My suggestion would be:
1. see whats your system writes to /var/log/messages
2. rmmod the module and modprobe it while the device is connected. By
doing modprobe, it should do all the stuff needed (create device, show
the device name in /var/log/messages) and show some status about it.
Hope this helps,
Hetz
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
Using lsusb, the dongle in question identifies itself as:
ID 050f:0180 KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 IrDA Dongle
When I used Debian Etch, the device /dev/irda0 was automatically created
and all worked out of the box.
After upgrade to Debian Lenny, the udev-created device changed, due to
some mysterious reason, to /dev/ttyUSB0 and now the dongle does not work
out of the box (does not connect to my cellphone using 'ircp -r' unlike
in the Etch era).
Does anyone know what changed and whathow to change so that it'll work
again?
--
Delay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson
My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which
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Re: IrDA dongle ceased to work when I upgraded to Debian Lenny
I don't see in your /var/log/messages anything from inserting your dongle.
I don't see any specific module that loads the dongle. irda module
is *NOT* covering the USB dongles, for that there is ir-usb module,
and I don't see anything on your messages that shows this loads at
all..
I suggest you take a look here:
http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Infrared-HOWTO/infrared-howto-s-irda-usb.html
Thanks,
Hetz
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
I tried dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Choosing serial device, it offers the default 'irda0' as serial device
file for IrDA.
For dongle type I tried both 'none', 'actisys', 'actisys+' (I read
somewhere that my dongle is 'actisys').
The command produces the following output:
=
# dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Stopping IrDA service: irattach.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
*
* The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
*
Starting IrDA service: irattach.
=
In the /var/log/everything/current, I see the following messages:
=
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] + FATAL: Module irda0 not found.
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Trying to load module irda0 exited with
status 1
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo c2
/proc/sys/net/irda/devname'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo 1
/proc/sys/net/irda/discovery'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Starting device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Stopping device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] exiting ..._
=
The kernel does have the module 'irda' as the
file /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/net/irda/irda.ko
The /etc/modules.conf file has (among lots of other stuff) the following
lines, and I don't know if and what to do with them:
=
options ali-ircc
alias irda0 ali-ircc
=
In /etc/udev/rules.d I had an IrDA rule when I used Debian Sarge, but
the rule was removed for Debian Etch because IrDA worked out of the box
for me there. When reinstating the rule for Debian Lenny, the IrDA
dongle did not work for me. The rule which I tried was (or something
similar):
BUS==usb, SYSFS{product}==IRExpress USB IrDA Controller,
NAME==usb/%k, SYMLINK+=usb/irda-usb
Of course, Google did not find for me anything relevant.
--- Omer
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 00:06 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Omer,
This could be from the hotplug script not knowing what to do with your
dongle.
My suggestion would be:
1. see whats your system writes to /var/log/messages
2. rmmod the module and modprobe it while the device is connected. By
doing modprobe, it should do all the stuff needed (create device, show
the device name in /var/log/messages) and show some status about it.
Hope this helps,
Hetz
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
Using lsusb, the dongle in question identifies itself as:
ID 050f:0180 KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 IrDA Dongle
When I used Debian Etch, the device /dev/irda0 was automatically created
and all worked out of the box.
After upgrade to Debian Lenny, the udev-created device changed, due to
some mysterious reason, to /dev/ttyUSB0 and now the dongle does not work
out of the box (does not connect to my cellphone using 'ircp -r' unlike
in the Etch era).
Does anyone know what changed and whathow to change so that it'll work
again?
--
Delay is the deadliest form of denial. C. Northcote Parkinson
My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
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[SUCCESS] Re: IrDA dongle ceased to work when I upgraded to Debian Lenny
Thanks, Hetz, for the pointer.
From reading it, I found that I should check for the ir_usb module, and
indeed it was loaded.
I did 'rmmod ir_usb' and then '/etc/init.d/irda-utils restart' and then
voila 'ircp -r' worked and I could at last transfer files from my
cellphone to the PC!
My /etc/modules.conf includes the line 'alias ir-usb null' - apparently
this is not enough to turn off ir_usb (and I don't find ir_usb
in /lib/modules, although ir-usb.ko exists).
So my immediate problem was solved, but a puzzle remains.
--- Omer
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 02:13 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
I don't see in your /var/log/messages anything from inserting your dongle.
I don't see any specific module that loads the dongle. irda module
is *NOT* covering the USB dongles, for that there is ir-usb module,
and I don't see anything on your messages that shows this loads at
all..
I suggest you take a look here:
http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Infrared-HOWTO/infrared-howto-s-irda-usb.html
Thanks,
Hetz
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
I tried dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Choosing serial device, it offers the default 'irda0' as serial device
file for IrDA.
For dongle type I tried both 'none', 'actisys', 'actisys+' (I read
somewhere that my dongle is 'actisys').
The command produces the following output:
=
# dpkg-reconfigure irda-utils
Stopping IrDA service: irattach.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
.udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV
invocation.
*
* The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
*
Starting IrDA service: irattach.
=
In the /var/log/everything/current, I see the following messages:
=
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: '/sbin/modprobe irda0'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] + FATAL: Module irda0 not found.
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Trying to load module irda0 exited with
status 1
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo c2
/proc/sys/net/irda/devname'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] executing: 'echo 1
/proc/sys/net/irda/discovery'
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Starting device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] Stopping device irda0
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device
Apr 14 00:30:32 [irattach] exiting ..._
=
The kernel does have the module 'irda' as the
file /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/net/irda/irda.ko
The /etc/modules.conf file has (among lots of other stuff) the following
lines, and I don't know if and what to do with them:
=
options ali-ircc
alias irda0 ali-ircc
=
In /etc/udev/rules.d I had an IrDA rule when I used Debian Sarge, but
the rule was removed for Debian Etch because IrDA worked out of the box
for me there. When reinstating the rule for Debian Lenny, the IrDA
dongle did not work for me. The rule which I tried was (or something
similar):
BUS==usb, SYSFS{product}==IRExpress USB IrDA Controller,
NAME==usb/%k, SYMLINK+=usb/irda-usb
Of course, Google did not find for me anything relevant.
--- Omer
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 00:06 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi Omer,
This could be from the hotplug script not knowing what to do with your
dongle.
My suggestion would be:
1. see whats your system writes to /var/log/messages
2. rmmod the module and modprobe it while the device is connected. By
doing modprobe, it should do all the stuff needed (create device, show
the device name in /var/log/messages) and show some status about it.
Hope this helps,
Hetz
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
Using lsusb, the dongle in question identifies itself as:
ID 050f:0180 KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 IrDA Dongle
When I used Debian Etch, the device /dev/irda0 was automatically created
and all worked out of the box.
After upgrade to Debian Lenny, the udev-created device changed, due to
some mysterious reason, to /dev/ttyUSB0 and now the dongle does not work
out of the box (does not connect to my cellphone using 'ircp -r' unlike
in the Etch era).
Does anyone know what changed and whathow to change so that it'll work
again?
--
Delay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson
My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which
I may be affiliated in any way.
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