Re: date command
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Chaim Keren-Tzion ch...@intercomp.co.il wrote: $ date -d 'Mon 11/9 2:25 AM' Mon Nov 9 02:25:00 IST 2009 yes, that what i want, but that's not what i get. it thinks the 11/9 is september 11, instead of november 9 (i.e. 11/9 vs 9/11 format) what is your locale ? thanks, erez. Chaim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: # date -d 'Mon 9/11 2:25 AM' Fri Sep 11 02:25:00 IDT 2009 but i want it to return: Mon Nov 9 02:25:00 IDT 2009 i tried setting LC_TIME but this didn't help. any idea ? cheers. erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
tags q
hi generating a 'tags file' using ctags lets me find the definition of things in vi using 'ctrl-]' is there a similiar way of finding usage of these things ? i.e. i can find where i defined function1(), can i find in a similiar way (other then grep) where it is used ? 10x, erez ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: date command
This is independent of locale. The get_date function simply treats xx/yy as US format according to info date. Erez D wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Chaim Keren-Tzion ch...@intercomp.co.il wrote: $ date -d 'Mon 11/9 2:25 AM' Mon Nov 9 02:25:00 IST 2009 yes, that what i want, but that's not what i get. it thinks the 11/9 is september 11, instead of november 9 (i.e. 11/9 vs 9/11 format) what is your locale ? thanks, erez. Chaim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: # date -d 'Mon 9/11 2:25 AM' Fri Sep 11 02:25:00 IDT 2009 but i want it to return: Mon Nov 9 02:25:00 IDT 2009 i tried setting LC_TIME but this didn't help. any idea ? cheers. erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh http://www.total-knowledge.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: tags q
On Monday 09 Nov 2009 10:59:07 Erez D wrote: hi generating a 'tags file' using ctags lets me find the definition of things in vi using 'ctrl-]' is there a similiar way of finding usage of these things ? i.e. i can find where i defined function1(), can i find in a similiar way (other then grep) where it is used ? Try cscope I think: http://cscope.sourceforge.net/ Also see ack which is grep-like (but is often better): http://betterthangrep.com/ There's also OpenGrok , which I haven't tried but boasts a large amount of features and speed: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+opengrok/WebHome Regards, Shlomi Fish 10x, erez ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ What Makes Software Apps High Quality - http://shlom.in/sw-quality Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
somewhat blasphemous to promote apple products on a linux mailing list... the fit-pc2 looks awesome, i am already making inquiries now, interested in buying one myself. tom. 2009/11/6 Marc Volovic marc.volo...@swiftouch.com Yes, there is such a unit. It is called Mac Mini, iMac or Mac Pro, whichever is your poison. ---MAV Marc. Volovic +972-54-467-6764 marcvolo...@me.com Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2009, at 14:29, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/6 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi, I am looking for a pre-built system that I can seamlessly and easily install Boxee on it. I am not interested in building one from scratch, as my goals are: 1) ease of installation 2) silence - the computer has to be dead-quite 3) everything just there - i mean, I don't want to buy X, Y and Z from three different places 4) has to be small and look slick AND most importantly 5) Has to have/come with a remote control Does anyone know of such units being sold in Israel? Sorry no answer from me about this one. But if you are like me - I suspect that you might be looking for something to allow you to watch Internet media as well as digital TV on your large screen TV in the living room, right? I recently learned about DLNA (dlna.org) - there are apparently thousands of devices supporting it and the TV's among them which do it properly should allow viewing of media over LAN (or even wireless LAN) and there are apparently some open source efforts to support its server-side on Linux too. My current (mid-term) plan is to get my hands on one of these TV's, get a proper Digital TV tuner card on my desktop Linux and serve media from the Linux over Wirless N or wired LAN to the TV. I have absolutely zero experience with actually implementing this or even seeing/reading about someone who did. I just read a bit about it in the last few weeks. Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
On 09/11/2009, at 21:21, Tom Goren wrote: somewhat blasphemous to promote apple products on a linux mailing list... To be fair, they *can* run linux :) --sambo ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
note that the graphical drivers for Linux are questionable, I think that it will not work with HD quality under recent Linux Distributions and applications (e.g. Mythbuntu 9.10 ) Ohad 2009/11/10 Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com somewhat blasphemous to promote apple products on a linux mailing list... the fit-pc2 looks awesome, i am already making inquiries now, interested in buying one myself. tom. 2009/11/6 Marc Volovic marc.volo...@swiftouch.com Yes, there is such a unit. It is called Mac Mini, iMac or Mac Pro, whichever is your poison. ---MAV Marc. Volovic +972-54-467-6764 marcvolo...@me.com Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2009, at 14:29, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/6 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi, I am looking for a pre-built system that I can seamlessly and easily install Boxee on it. I am not interested in building one from scratch, as my goals are: 1) ease of installation 2) silence - the computer has to be dead-quite 3) everything just there - i mean, I don't want to buy X, Y and Z from three different places 4) has to be small and look slick AND most importantly 5) Has to have/come with a remote control Does anyone know of such units being sold in Israel? Sorry no answer from me about this one. But if you are like me - I suspect that you might be looking for something to allow you to watch Internet media as well as digital TV on your large screen TV in the living room, right? I recently learned about DLNA (dlna.org) - there are apparently thousands of devices supporting it and the TV's among them which do it properly should allow viewing of media over LAN (or even wireless LAN) and there are apparently some open source efforts to support its server-side on Linux too. My current (mid-term) plan is to get my hands on one of these TV's, get a proper Digital TV tuner card on my desktop Linux and serve media from the Linux over Wirless N or wired LAN to the TV. I have absolutely zero experience with actually implementing this or even seeing/reading about someone who did. I just read a bit about it in the last few weeks. Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
2009/11/10 Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com: note that the graphical drivers for Linux are questionable, I think that it will not work with HD quality under recent Linux Distributions and applications (e.g. Mythbuntu 9.10 ) Another point to take note is that someone told me that switching channels on DVB-T receiver cards on Linux (or maybe also on Windows?) takes a second or two, it's not as immediate as on a set-top box. This is NOT specific for this (cute) hardware. Back when he told me this my plan was to use my Linux desktop at the study as a pre-programmed PVR to record programs at specific times, not a set-top box to watch TV in real-time, so it's probably less of a concern than when planning to use Linux inside a set-top box. This is for Australia but I guess the basic hardware/limitations are the same. --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
Hi, I can't understand one thing, people hate it when I, unintentionally, promote Apple, but find it unstrange when there is apparent lack of a decent device which compares to Apple's device. I don't say go with close source, I don't say use proprietary products, but at least give me a decent alternative Excuse me, but FIT-PC2 is, at least from looking around: 1) Expensive for the Spec you get - and I am not even sure it works ok on movies, just because it has HDMI doesn't mean it will work properly on movies 2) No apparent user base - if it doesn't work or doesn't work properly, you are in the dark 3) Proven technology, Apple TV , with all my feelings (not positive) for Apple, works, and works quite nicely There are US solutions that are non-Apple to do what I am looking for, but I can't find them in Israel. On Monday 09 November 2009 21:21:14 Tom Goren wrote: somewhat blasphemous to promote apple products on a linux mailing list... the fit-pc2 looks awesome, i am already making inquiries now, interested in buying one myself. tom. 2009/11/6 Marc Volovic marc.volo...@swiftouch.com Yes, there is such a unit. It is called Mac Mini, iMac or Mac Pro, whichever is your poison. ---MAV Marc. Volovic +972-54-467-6764 marcvolo...@me.com Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2009, at 14:29, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/6 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi, I am looking for a pre-built system that I can seamlessly and easily install Boxee on it. I am not interested in building one from scratch, as my goals are: 1) ease of installation 2) silence - the computer has to be dead-quite 3) everything just there - i mean, I don't want to buy X, Y and Z from three different places 4) has to be small and look slick AND most importantly 5) Has to have/come with a remote control Does anyone know of such units being sold in Israel? Sorry no answer from me about this one. But if you are like me - I suspect that you might be looking for something to allow you to watch Internet media as well as digital TV on your large screen TV in the living room, right? I recently learned about DLNA (dlna.org) - there are apparently thousands of devices supporting it and the TV's among them which do it properly should allow viewing of media over LAN (or even wireless LAN) and there are apparently some open source efforts to support its server-side on Linux too. My current (mid-term) plan is to get my hands on one of these TV's, get a proper Digital TV tuner card on my desktop Linux and serve media from the Linux over Wirless N or wired LAN to the TV. I have absolutely zero experience with actually implementing this or even seeing/reading about someone who did. I just read a bit about it in the last few weeks. Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Getting a kernel's .config without running it
Hi all, I have a kernel image that was compiled by someone else for a platform I don't own. The kernel was (probably) compiled to export its configuration parameters via /proc/config.gz. I want to get that file. The problem is, of course, that I cannot run the kernel. Does anyone know how I can extract the kernel's config without running it? Thanks, Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home Theatre computer
On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Noam Rathaus wrote: There are US solutions that are non-Apple to do what I am looking for, but I can't find them in Israel. Apple bases their operating system on BSD and it is open source. Their GUI is not, but there is a decent port of X Windows, and a user community supported upgrade to the Apple base product. Open source software works very well on it and there a lots of things ported to it. To answer another posting, there will always be a delay switching channels on a digitial TV system. While analog TV sent a new frame every 1/25 of a second, digital TV uses the key frame concept. Every once in a while an entire frame is sent, the rest of the time, the frames are sent as the difference between the current frame and the previous one. So you won't get a picture until the next key frame is received and decoded. How often a key frame is sent depends upon the boradcaster. Israel digitial TV is an attempt at squeezing the most you can get out of a single signal, so the key frames are sent less frequently. I've never timed it, but it seems like a long time. The other problelm is a design feature of MythTv. In order to make live pause and backup work, MythTv always records what you are watching. The video you see is a playback of the recorded video. Depending upon the compression you use to record and the speed of your processors, the delay can be 2-3 seconds (or more). Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
