Pop toaster recommendations seeked

2010-10-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie folks.

for years I would install qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin to give a client a
nice robust virtual-domains web manager with mailing lists and all they
needed, but today I discovered, that after 2-3 years of code freeze and
maybe drop of users, courier imap seems has broken the option of
authenticating with vpopmail, which means I have a wonderful virtual
mail management and delivery system, but no pop3 and imapd to use it
with. maybe it's time to ditch this kit and find another.

option 1: courier MTA and SQWebmail - not so happy about it. I don't
know the MTA, the message store is proprietary and limiting, no central
management via web of the users (other than PHPMyAdmin, not friendly
enough for my client.

options 2: Zimbra. seams like a bit of an overkill but I'm told it
works well, has postfix for an engine, and rumors say it supports
virtual domains well (though I could not be sure from the confusing
admin manual).

Option 3: ? Donno... can you recommend?

I'd love some input from your experience, I could not find anything
solid enough with a webby control panel on howtoforge, so it looks like
I'll lean towards Zimbra unless anyone has a rabbit in his hat to offer.

Thanks!
Ira.


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Re: Pop toaster recommendations seeked

2010-10-31 Thread Tom Goren
You could go with postfix + dovecot + roundcube for web interface

For backend administration webmin perhaps.

If you really want to go nuts for the client, try out virtualmin to handle
everything on the backend (useful for dealing with several domains) - pretty
simple to set up as well.


Tom.

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Ira Abramov 
lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org wrote:

 Howdie folks.

 for years I would install qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin to give a client a
 nice robust virtual-domains web manager with mailing lists and all they
 needed, but today I discovered, that after 2-3 years of code freeze and
 maybe drop of users, courier imap seems has broken the option of
 authenticating with vpopmail, which means I have a wonderful virtual
 mail management and delivery system, but no pop3 and imapd to use it
 with. maybe it's time to ditch this kit and find another.

 option 1: courier MTA and SQWebmail - not so happy about it. I don't
 know the MTA, the message store is proprietary and limiting, no central
 management via web of the users (other than PHPMyAdmin, not friendly
 enough for my client.

 options 2: Zimbra. seams like a bit of an overkill but I'm told it
 works well, has postfix for an engine, and rumors say it supports
 virtual domains well (though I could not be sure from the confusing
 admin manual).

 Option 3: ? Donno... can you recommend?

 I'd love some input from your experience, I could not find anything
 solid enough with a webby control panel on howtoforge, so it looks like
 I'll lean towards Zimbra unless anyone has a rabbit in his hat to offer.

 Thanks!
 Ira.


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Re: Pop toaster recommendations seeked

2010-10-31 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:23:34PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
 Howdie folks.
 
 for years I would install qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin to give a client a
 nice robust virtual-domains web manager with mailing lists and all they
 needed, but today I discovered, that after 2-3 years of code freeze and
 maybe drop of users, courier imap seems has broken the option of
 authenticating with vpopmail, which means I have a wonderful virtual
 mail management and delivery system, but no pop3 and imapd to use it
 with. maybe it's time to ditch this kit and find another.
 
 option 1: courier MTA and SQWebmail - not so happy about it. I don't
 know the MTA, the message store is proprietary and limiting, no central
 management via web of the users (other than PHPMyAdmin, not friendly
 enough for my client.
 
 options 2: Zimbra. seams like a bit of an overkill but I'm told it
 works well, has postfix for an engine, and rumors say it supports
 virtual domains well (though I could not be sure from the confusing
 admin manual).
 
 Option 3: ? Donno... can you recommend?

I worked for several years with postfix+dovecot+postfixadmin. IIRC it
was mostly based on this howto:
http://bliki.rimuhosting.com/space/knowledgebase/linux/mail/postfixadmin+on+debian+sarge
which is pretty dated, but postfixadmin itself (and the underlying
tools, no doubt) is still maintained. It's pretty basic but working.

You might consider trying one of virtual hosting packages out there.
I then did and decided they were either too big or not mature enough
(or both) and went with postfixadmin which did a rather small part of
their common denominator but seemed mature. A partial list of the ones
I then looked at: ispconfig web-cp dtc ispman vhcs gnuhh ravencore.
Googling for most subsets of them will probably find others/reviews/etc.
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Didi


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