On 04/09/2011 04:10 PM, Omer Zak wrote:
IANAL either.
But what you are looking for is, in principle, dual licensing.
The providers of MySQL and Qt follow the same model. Their software
libraries are available under either GPL (with all the restrictions it
entails) or under a proprietary
A week ago I wrote here my belief that
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011, Nadav Har'El wrote about Linux has won!:
..
We're so used to thinking that Linux is a
niche OS that only 1% of the people use at home, that we (or at least I)
missed the fact that this changed! Over the last few years, suddenly that
Thanks for your answers. But I feel we're not on the same page. This
demonstrates it best:
I don't know what your library is about, but have you considered other uses
your library might have? E.g., what if Google, Facebook, or some other
company
which builds a million machines for its own use,
2011/4/10 Aviad Mandel aviad.man...@gmail.com
I hope this clarifies why GPL's limitation of distribution is so appealing
as an evaluation license: It stops the evaluation users exactly at the point
where they want to really use the software, in embedded terms. And if I'm
not wrong about the
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011, Aviad Mandel wrote about Re: GPL as an evaluation
license:
How about a software library that understands speech, to be run on a
microwave oven? The potential customer wants to try it on their real
microwave, and have it running on a few real kitchens just to learn that
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote:
What if Google (just a silly hypothetical example) takes that library and
uses it on their servers, to understand spoken commands sent over the
network
by their users?
Then I'll proudly add a huge banner on the
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 01:45:20PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
2011/4/10 Aviad Mandel aviad.man...@gmail.com
I hope this clarifies why GPL's limitation of distribution is so appealing
as an evaluation license: It stops the evaluation users exactly at the point
where they want to really use
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
I don't know about the legal aspects and I might not know much about the
industry
you are targeting but at some my clients there is a strict no GPL
policy
while at
others the use of open source (especially
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
IMHO in most of these cases the GPL license will be a deterrence
from even trying the thing.
But this is when the GPL is used in production. Not for evaluation.
I think this last statement is wrong. On top of the
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 03:02:06PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
I don't know about the legal aspects and I might not know much about the
industry
you are targeting but at some my clients there is a strict no
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 03:25:46PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
IMHO in most of these cases the GPL license will be a deterrence
from even trying the thing.
But this is when the GPL is used in production.
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
Suppose you got some code from Oracle under the terms of the OLLE
(Oracle License for Library Evaluation), played with it a bit, and figured
it is junk you shouldn't use. You team went on to use your own code
2011/4/10 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org
Another point that I mentioned in an earlier post but not sure if it
registered. Consider the following hypothetical case.
Vendor A (fits this case, huh) provides a library to Business B for
evaluation, under GPL. Business B actually needs the
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Aviad Mandel aviad.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Easy: Compile all Business B's sources into object files (.o, you know) but
don't link. Send Mr. C the objects and sources Vendor A supplied. Tell Mr. C
to compile and link the whole package (scripts, LiveDVDs
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
This looks to me (reminder: IANAL) as a rather simplistic attempt to
circumvent GPL. I cannot believe that this trick is legal.
I'm likewise skeptic. But if this is illegal, and I don't understand why,
then there's
Aviad,
i think that when you delve into such legal questions - you are reaching
the limit of what you would want to do, as a business.
in other words, either use the GPL and hope business B knows what to do,
or don't use the GPL to avoid having these legal questions to answer.
you should note
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Aviad Mandel aviad.man...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
This looks to me (reminder: IANAL) as a rather simplistic attempt to
circumvent GPL. I cannot believe that this trick is legal.
I'm likewise
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that the questions I had about my own
little venture are answered, thank you all.
But for pure curiosity, I'm left wondering how effective GPL really is.
Let's leave the microwave for a second, and think about a proprietary web
software browser, for a desktop,
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Aviad Mandel aviad.man...@gmail.com wrote:
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that the questions I had about my own
little venture are answered, thank you all.
But for pure curiosity, I'm left wondering how effective GPL really is.
Let's leave the microwave
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
Someone gave you, i.e., conveyed, distributed, that object code
whose only purpose is to create the browser when linked to some GPLed
code. Therefore this object code is derivative work of the GPL code.
Therefore if
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:33:05AM +0300, Aviad Mandel wrote:
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that the questions I had about my own
little venture are answered, thank you all.
But for pure curiosity, I'm left wondering how effective GPL really is.
Let's leave the microwave for a second,
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