Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread yochai
Hey, It isn't the first idea that comes to mind but what about SDL ? You have no buttons or any other GUI objects, but it doesn't sound like you need it and SDL suppose to be able to handle a lot of data with no problem. Also you can push events (data changes) to the loop safely with threads.

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 10:55 +0300, yochai wrote: Hey, It isn't the first idea that comes to mind but what about SDL ? How about giving an URL to a Website or a Wikipedia article, which describes the specific SDL that you refer to? When searching both resources, Google returned irrelevant

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread yochai
Sorry, I thought it will be clear what I'm speaking about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_DirectMedia_Layer On 07/19/2012 11:37 AM, Omer Zak wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 10:55 +0300, yochai wrote: Hey, It isn't the first idea that comes to mind but what about SDL ? How about

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM, yochai yoc...@titat.info wrote: Sorry, I thought it will be clear what I'm speaking about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_DirectMedia_Layer I would recommend against SDL, because creating a decent GUI with it will require a lot of work, and on

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread yochai
Shlomi, I gave it as an idea as I understood he doesn't need a full GUI or anything with a shiny look but to print a lot of data very fast. I'm sorry if I miss-understood anything. Yochai On 07/19/2012 12:12 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM, yochai

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, really simple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread ik
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.orgwrote: Hi, I have no - literally zero - experience in creating GUIs of any kind. I face the following task now: there is a C++ program that runs on Linux and basically receives some packets with some data over the network

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Dov Grobgeld
The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui toolkits mentioned (fltk, Tcl/Tk, SDL, or Matlab GUI) are that they are complete (lots of widgets, internationalization and localization support etc) if the prototype turns into something bigger than was initially envisioned. To

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread ik
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote: The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui toolkits mentioned (fltk, Tcl/Tk, SDL, or Matlab GUI) are that they are complete (lots of widgets, internationalization and localization support

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Dov, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote: The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui toolkits mentioned (fltk, Tcl/Tk, SDL, or Matlab GUI) are that they are You should not lump SDL together with FLTK, Tcl/Tk and Matlab GUI,

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Dov Grobgeld
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM, ik ido...@gmail.com wrote: Vala, is a very stupid idea. it's a C# like language that is translated into C and then built a native code. I disagree. I am not familiar with C# so I can't comment on that, but Vala very nicely reflects the beauty of the GObject

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Ido, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM, ik ido...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote: The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui toolkits mentioned (fltk, Tcl/Tk, SDL, or Matlab GUI) are that they are

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread ik
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ido, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM, ik ido...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote: The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.comwrote: The advantage of using Qt or Gtk compared with some of the other gui toolkits mentioned (fltk, Tcl/Tk, SDL, or Matlab GUI) are that they are complete (lots of widgets, internationalization and localization support

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Both Gtk and Qt work seamlessly under Windows, and launching your tool as an external process might be feasible. (I did something similar at Orbotech about 15y ago when I wrote an external tool in Perl/Tk that exactly matched the colors and fonts of the external C++/Motif based GUI. In a certain

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012, Dov Grobgeld wrote about Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype: very nicely reflects the beauty of the GObject system. Especially in C it is easy to miss that because of the very tedious syntax you need to use, e.g. to

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012, ik wrote about Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype: *Vala* is an object-oriented http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented programming language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language with a self-hosting

Re: suggestions sought for a framework for a quick, dirty, reallysimple GUI prototype

2012-07-19 Thread Udi Finkelstein
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: I'm still saddened by the fate of TCL/TK. I still blame Sun for what happened to it. sun bought TCL/TK and its inventor John Ousterhout with intentions of turning TCL into a browser scripting language, and then