Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread ronys
Greetings,

My trusty HP all-in-one has finally gone to the great bit-bucket in the sky
after one of the scanner lid hinges broke, and I'm looking for a
replacement.

This is for home use: Color printing is required by family members. Other
than that, I'd like network connectivity (pref. via Ethernet, not WiFi),
and of course Linux-friendliness.

Back in the day, the consensus was anything but Lexmark. Has this changed?

Thanks,

  Rony

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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread Omer Zak
I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
for the better during the last two or so years.
I am an happy user of the Brother MFC-490W printer-FAX-scanner-copier.

--- Omer


On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 10:29 +0300, ronys wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 
 My trusty HP all-in-one has finally gone to the great bit-bucket in
 the sky after one of the scanner lid hinges broke, and I'm looking for
 a replacement.
 
 
 This is for home use: Color printing is required by family members.
 Other than that, I'd like network connectivity (pref. via Ethernet,
 not WiFi), and of course Linux-friendliness.
 
 
 Back in the day, the consensus was anything but Lexmark. Has this
 changed?


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OOPS, I meant MFC-490CW (Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?)

2013-08-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 10:41 +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
 I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
 for the better during the last two or so years.
 I am an happy user of the Brother MFC-490W printer-FAX-scanner-copier.


OOPS, I meant Brother MFC-490CW.


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Re: OOPS, I meant MFC-490CW (Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?)

2013-08-18 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I have it the other way around. I really like the HP All in one and
their hplip Linux package which does almost anything that the
Windows drivers do - and more (yay, Python scripting ;) ).

Furthermore, HP is only company which actually DO give support for
their Linux drivers with the printers, something which I didn't find
with any other vendor. see this:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/support.html

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2013/8/18 Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il:
 On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 10:41 +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
 I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
 for the better during the last two or so years.
 I am an happy user of the Brother MFC-490W printer-FAX-scanner-copier.

 
 OOPS, I meant Brother MFC-490CW.


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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 18/08/13 10:41, Omer Zak wrote:
 I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
 for the better during the last two or so years.
Please elaborate.

Shachar

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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 18/08/13 10:29, ronys wrote:
 Greetings,

 My trusty HP all-in-one has finally gone to the great bit-bucket in
 the sky after one of the scanner lid hinges broke, and I'm looking for
 a replacement.

 This is for home use: Color printing is required by family members.
 Other than that, I'd like network connectivity (pref. via Ethernet,
 not WiFi), and of course Linux-friendliness.

 Back in the day, the consensus was anything but Lexmark. Has this
 changed?

 Thanks,

   Rony

Linux prints using CUPS. This is Common Unix Printing System. It is
written by Apple, and is the way Mac OS X prints as well.

Due to the increased popularity of Mac machines lately (justified or not
is a discussion I won't go into right now), things should be fairly good
all round.

Shachar
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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
ronys ro...@gmx.net writes:

 My trusty HP all-in-one has finally gone to the great bit-bucket in
 the sky after one of the scanner lid hinges broke, and I'm looking for
 a replacement.

 This is for home use: Color printing is required by family members.
 Other than that, I'd like network connectivity (pref. via Ethernet,
 not WiFi), and of course Linux-friendliness.

I got myself a new printer/scanner for exactly the same reason a few
weeks ago.

I don't know where anything but HP comes from. I got another HP, and
just like the previous one it worked right out of the box, no issues
whatsoever. Other makes should also be fine, but I'd regard HP as among
the best in the pack, practically guaranteed to work without any
configuration effort, and they have a wide range of models to suit every
need.

E.g., I don't need a fax and I found that a printer/scanner without a
fax was quite a bit cheaper. And models often come in pairs with and
without Wi-Fi - if you don't need Wi-Fi it will also be noticeably
cheaper. Ink will likely dominate your long term expenses, anyway.

I am not even sure mine's got an Ethernet port and I am too lazy to
check. I just plugged it into a USB port of one of my computers and
started a CUPS server on it, and I can print from anywere (check the
firewall rules on the server though). Make sure to find out whether the
box includes a USB cable - mine didn't, but I reused the one from the
old printer.
  
One thing to check is whether the printer turns itself off when idle. My
new printer does - apparently the idea is that it's a personal device
that is nearby, and you are supposed to press a button when you need to
print or scan. It's no problem for me, but if your house is large your
mileage may vary. Literally. At some point you'll need to go to the
printer to pick up the pages, anyway, but having to do it each time
before clicking Print still looks kinda silly.

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

2013-08-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Amos Shapira wrote on Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 08:46:02 +1000:
 And the list goes on and on.

Some of the odd corners of shell syntax are quite useful in interactive
usage.  For example:

% (){ foo $1 bar } 24
to run a command several times (recalling it from history) and change
some parameter around the middle of the command line without having to
scroll to it every time.

% grep $smtp_id *(om[1,5])
to grep the 5 most recent log files.

I suppose bash has its own syntax for that but I don't know what it is.

Daniel
(naturally, I don't use these in scripts #!ed to plain sh)

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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-18 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 18 August 2013 10:41:38 Omer Zak wrote:
 I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
 for the better during the last two or so years.

Really? Let's debunk this baseless paragraph...

* I'll start with personal and therefore anecdotal experience:
  - HP LaserJet-5L (yes, in the 90's) -- still with old 'lpr'
  - Later two HP-DeskJet's -- forgot which exact models
  - Than an All-In-One (HP-PSC-1210, USB connection)
  - Currently an All-In-One HP-OfficeJet-6313 (Using Ethernet)

In terms of Linux support:
  - HP maintains HPLIP support since ~2005
  - All is FOSS (GPLv2, BSD, MIT)
  - As a result, it's included in all major distributions.
  - So it works out of the box.
  - It supports all functions:
- Printing (via CUPS)
- Scanning (via a SANE plugin, so you can scan directly from
  LibreOffice, Gimp, etc.)
- Faxing (scanning + some glue FOSS code in python).
- Reading ink-levels, calibrating, etc.
  - If you encounter bugs, your distro developers can actually do
something about it. Here are HPLIP bugs for Fedora/RHEL:
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=hplip

 I am an happy user of the Brother MFC-490W printer-FAX-scanner-copier.

* Can you enlighten us where did you get the drivers? (for ALL functions).
* I did google'd and found deb/rpm BINARIES for this printer in
  Brother's site.
* Are there FOSS-licensed sources? (not hidden behind click-walls) --
  this is the only interesting question.

Bye,

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

2013-08-18 Thread Michael Shiloh



On 08/18/2013 02:08 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

Some of the odd corners of shell syntax are quite useful in interactive
usage.  For example:

% (){ foo $1 bar } 24
to run a command several times (recalling it from history) and change
some parameter around the middle of the command line without having to
scroll to it every time.



wait, can you explain  this?

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