Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-19 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
[SNIP]
 I would say that today it's anything but HP - unless things changed
[/SNIP]

I must admit that my experience couldn't be any different.
I've got a large number of HP printers both at work and at home, most
of them MFP (multi function printers) and beyond the blood-like ink
prices, HP's Linux support is top notch - no matter what distribution
is being used.
(We have Fedora, Ubuntu, SUSE and Slackware).
Beyond the obvious (cups, x/sane), HPLIP toolbox more or less mirror's
the HP Window toolbox minus the all the bloatware and in most cases
the printer simply works out of the box.

FWIW I've I currently have / use 4 different HP printers:
- LaserJet 1212MFP (Works just fine as a printer and scanner, fax
firmware is problematic).
- OfficeJet 6700 (Two days old. No comments thus far).
- OfficeJet 5784 (4.5 [!] years old, Amazing [] printer. being
replaced by 6700 due ink prices).
- OfficeJet 4580 (3 years old, Good printer, slowish scanner,
problematic auto-feeder).

Hope it helps,
- Gilboa

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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

On 8/19/2013 10:35 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:


Beyond the obvious (cups, x/sane), HPLIP toolbox more or less mirror's
the HP Window toolbox minus the all the bloatware and in most cases
the printer simply works out of the box.


If you download the CORPORATE windows drivers for your HP printer you 
get it without the bloatware.


To be honest I have not tried to use it to scan with my ethernet 
attached multifunction printer, but it does print well.


Most of the problems I have found with HP printers on networks is due to 
them having floating IP addresses (randomly assigned by DHCP servers) 
and if you give them a fixed IP address they work fine.


Windows also supports printing over HTTP, so you can easily connect your 
windows system to CUPS.


Geoff.


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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-19 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you download the CORPORATE windows drivers for your HP printer you get it
 without the bloatware.

True, but even the HP corporate drivers tend to be big, slow and have
a fairly complex installation procedure compared to Linux.
E.g. In many versions the installation will fail if the printer is
connected to the machine while the USB driver is being installed.
(Though, in HP's defense this a pure Windows issue and not HP
related).

- Gilboa

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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-19 Thread ronys
Hi,

Thanks to all for your replies. Based on them and reviews, I've decided on
an HP Officejet Pro 8600+ (710 NIS, picking it up this evening). Will let
the honorable forum know if I find any surprises with this, for better or
worse.

Cheers,

  Rony
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Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?

2013-08-19 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I would also recommend checking Google Cloud print. You can install it
on any Linux server (even headless), and then you can use it from
anywhere.
See here: http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=2906017
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2013/8/19 Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson
 geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you download the CORPORATE windows drivers for your HP printer you get it
 without the bloatware.

 True, but even the HP corporate drivers tend to be big, slow and have
 a fairly complex installation procedure compared to Linux.
 E.g. In many versions the installation will fail if the printer is
 connected to the machine while the USB driver is being installed.
 (Though, in HP's defense this a pure Windows issue and not HP
 related).

 - Gilboa

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

2013-08-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Michael Shiloh wrote on Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 16:36:35 -0700:


 On 08/18/2013 02:08 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
 Some of the odd corners of shell syntax are quite useful in interactive
 usage.  For example:

 % (){ foo $1 bar } 24
 to run a command several times (recalling it from history) and change
 some parameter around the middle of the command line without having to
 scroll to it every time.


 wait, can you explain  this?

Sure.  It's a zsh-specific syntax for an anonymous function with
arguments.  In effect it's an anonymous block.  For example:

% (){ printf $1\n 04 } %s  
04
% (){ printf $1\n 04 } %d  
4
% (){ printf $1\n 04 } %e  
4.00e+00

In interactive usage I sometimes find myself wanting to run a command
several times in a row with one argument changed.  When that argument is
in the middle of a (potentially multi-line) command, I find it easier to
change it between runs by using an ad-hoc anonymous function to move the
argument-to-be-changed to the end of the input.  Another case where that
would be useful is when the argument appears in two places in the
command --- using an anonymous function allows changing the argument in
just one place rather than two.

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

2013-08-19 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name writes:

 Sure.  It's a zsh-specific syntax for an anonymous function with
 arguments.  In effect it's an anonymous block.  For example:

 % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %s  
 04
 % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %d  
 4
 % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %e  
 4.00e+00

 In interactive usage I sometimes find myself wanting to run a command
 several times in a row with one argument changed.  When that argument is
 in the middle of a (potentially multi-line) command, I find it easier to
 change it between runs by using an ad-hoc anonymous function to move the
 argument-to-be-changed to the end of the input.  Another case where that
 would be useful is when the argument appears in two places in the
 command --- using an anonymous function allows changing the argument in
 just one place rather than two.

In bash, I use fc (fix command) for this:

$ printf %s\n 04
04
$ fc -s %s=%d
printf %d\n 04
4
$ fc -s %d=%e
printf %e\n 04
4.00e+00

Very useful. Check out also 

$ fc -n -3 -1

or similar to edit the last 3 commnds (with $EDITOR, or use -e) 
and execute them when done editing.

-- 
Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

2013-08-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote on Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 17:00:40 +0300:
 Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name writes:
 
  Sure.  It's a zsh-specific syntax for an anonymous function with
  arguments.  In effect it's an anonymous block.  For example:
 
  % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %s  
  04
  % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %d  
  4
  % (){ printf $1\n 04 } %e  
  4.00e+00
 
  In interactive usage I sometimes find myself wanting to run a command
  several times in a row with one argument changed.  When that argument is
  in the middle of a (potentially multi-line) command, I find it easier to
  change it between runs by using an ad-hoc anonymous function to move the
  argument-to-be-changed to the end of the input.  Another case where that
  would be useful is when the argument appears in two places in the
  command --- using an anonymous function allows changing the argument in
  just one place rather than two.
 
 In bash, I use fc (fix command) for this:
 
 $ printf %s\n 04
 04
 $ fc -s %s=%d
 printf %d\n 04
 4

That looks equivalent to ^foo^bar, which both shells support:

# printf %s\n 04
04
# ^%s^%d
4

 $ fc -n -3 -1
 
 or similar to edit the last 3 commnds (with $EDITOR, or use -e) 
 and execute them when done editing.

Nice, thanks.  The same invocation works in zsh too.  I also know of an
extension to edit the *current* command line in $EDITOR:

(zsh)
autoload -U edit-command-line
zle -N edit-command-line
bindkey '^Fc' edit-command-line

(vim)
CTRL-F (controlled by :help 'cedit')

 

We should probably be collecting such tips on a wiki page or something;
on list archives they'll just be lost...

Daniel

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