Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
When I used Joomla for mixing Hebrew and English I did not find it very easy to develop a single template for both English and Hebrew so I ended up doing two templates, one for Hebrew and one for English. The down side to this is that other than the default template you need to assign a template to a particular page and it is a maintenance headache to do that on an ongoing basis. The site I did was mainly in Hebrew and they weren't adding English pages on a regular basis so we were able to live with that. Since this was when I just started using Joomla I assume there is a better way to do this. I would appreciate any pointers to resources for how to develop templates that can be used for both English and Hebrew or of how to manage a site in Joomla that is using both Hebrew and English on a regular basis. David Suna da...@davidsconsultants.com Danny Lieberman wrote: I am not qualified to compare Joomla with the current version of Drupal since all of our sites run on Joomla and we took the CMS decision about 4 years ago. However - I can strongly recommend Joomla 1.5 and up. We are very light users of Hebrew but - fwiw there is no issue at all with the latest version of Joomla mixing hebrew and english, the SEO friendly URLs work and as long as you are ok with a English language interface - Joomla will everything you want and more. I second Shachar's comment about the templates - as long as you use standard templates or do minimal customization you will be fine - otherwise you will need help from a more experienced person - and there are tons of them out there. Examples: www.software.co.il http://www.software.co.il www.opensolutions.co.il http://www.opensolutions.co.il Danny 2009/8/30 Boaz Rymland b...@rymland.com mailto:b...@rymland.com Hi, * The specified requirements list was much too slim to judge (how much does a suite for an orphan cost? Is there such a sentence in English? :-) * This is a hot debate between enthusiasts from both camps. * Here are some links that try to address this issue: o http://www.topnotchthemes.com/blog/090224/drupal-vs-joomla-frank-comparison-ibm-consultant o http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-which-one-is-right-for-you/ o http://mydrupal.com/joomla-versus-drupal o http://drupal.org/node/563294 o and there are many many more... Boaz. Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Danny Lieberman - http://www.dannylieberman.info Twitter: http://twitter.com/onlyjazz Skype: dannyl50 Warsaw:+48-79-609-5964 Israel: +972 8 9701485 Mobile: +972 - 54 447 1114 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
I am not qualified to compare Joomla with the current version of Drupal since all of our sites run on Joomla and we took the CMS decision about 4 years ago. However - I can strongly recommend Joomla 1.5 and up. We are very light users of Hebrew but - fwiw there is no issue at all with the latest version of Joomla mixing hebrew and english, the SEO friendly URLs work and as long as you are ok with a English language interface - Joomla will everything you want and more. I second Shachar's comment about the templates - as long as you use standard templates or do minimal customization you will be fine - otherwise you will need help from a more experienced person - and there are tons of them out there. Examples: www.software.co.il www.opensolutions.co.il Danny 2009/8/30 Boaz Rymland b...@rymland.com Hi, - The specified requirements list was much too slim to judge (how much does a suite for an orphan cost? Is there such a sentence in English? :-) - This is a hot debate between enthusiasts from both camps. - Here are some links that try to address this issue: - http://www.topnotchthemes.com/blog/090224/drupal-vs-joomla-frank-comparison-ibm-consultant - http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-which-one-is-right-for-you/ - http://mydrupal.com/joomla-versus-drupal - http://drupal.org/node/563294 - and there are many many more... Boaz. Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. -- ___ Linux-il mailing listlinux...@cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Danny Lieberman - http://www.dannylieberman.info Twitter: http://twitter.com/onlyjazz Skype: dannyl50 Warsaw:+48-79-609-5964 Israel: +972 8 9701485 Mobile: +972 - 54 447 1114 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. I don't know Drupal very well. Lingnu's site is built with Joomla (http://www.lingnu.com), using joomfish for the actual translations. We didn't manage to get IE6 is to support the Hebrew site (things look bad, but you get redirected to http://www.lingnu.com/ie6-not-supported.html the first time). The site has Hebrew and English mode. Each (translated) article is available as a base URL (http://www.lingnu.com/solutions.html), as well as language specific URLs (http://www.lingnu.com/he/solutions.html and http://www.lingnu.com/en/solutions.html). There were quite a few important incoming links left over from the static HTML site that was there earlier, and we managed to simply place the new, dynamic site over the same URLs as the old one (all the pages have .html extension - an SEO plugin, of course). Now for the bad news. Getting this took a lot of work. Tailoring the template to look the way we wanted, and to get it working on (almost) all browser took a lot of tweaking and work. Joomfish took a lot of getting used to, but frankly, a lot of it were bugs in joomfish that have, since, been resolved. The same goes for the SEO plugin - getting friendly URLs took some getting used to. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy with the choice of technology, and very happy with the end result. It allows me to have some of the site bilingual, others only in English/Hebrew, and mix in static elements where applicable. Most importantly, it allows me to make changes without thinking twice about it when I need to. Hope I've helped. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. I got Eng-Ru set up of drupal-5.x + localizer working fairly well, although it took some effort.. Menus, content, all translated properly. I added Hebrew just for fun in test set up, and it did work, although I didn't test it extensively. Never tried Joomla.. Can't say anything about it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?
Hi, * The specified requirements list was much too slim to judge (how much does a suite for an orphan cost? Is there such a sentence in English? :-) * This is a hot debate between enthusiasts from both camps. * Here are some links that try to address this issue: o http://www.topnotchthemes.com/blog/090224/drupal-vs-joomla-frank-comparison-ibm-consultant o http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-which-one-is-right-for-you/ o http://mydrupal.com/joomla-versus-drupal o http://drupal.org/node/563294 o and there are many many more... Boaz. Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla? The management interface can be in English. I will need content and menus in He and En though. Thanks in advance. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
