RE: 'per-process' DNS setup?

2002-12-08 Thread Eddie Aronovich
You can use req_query() function in your code (it has no output parser libs)
That lib call needs header file resolv.h and there is an option named:
_PATH_RESCONF (used by ndef) that can get the file name (instead of
resolv.conf).
Never seen an environment var that can be changed which affect resolver.
Eddie


 -Original Message-
 From: guy keren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 03:53
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 'per-process' DNS setup?
 
 
 i'm trying to 'fake' DNS settings for a _single_ process on a linux box
 (i.e. when this process will query for the address of a given host, it
 will get a reply i set a-priory, while other processes will get the proper
 repely).
 
 i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding
 various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow
 enough control to actually override such settings, without changing the
 settings for the whole box. i've been searching on google, and looking for
 info in the o'rreily DNS and bind book - to no avail.
 
 if anyone has an idea if such a feature is available - i'd be glad for any
 pointer. it sounds odd for such a feature not to be already available via
 the default libraries.
 
 thanks,
 --
 guy
 
 For world domination - press 1,
  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy
 
 
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RE: 'per-process' DNS setup?

2002-12-08 Thread Lior Okman


One solution would be to run this process inside a chroot jail, and set
the jailed /etc/resolv.conf file to whatever dns servers you want - or a
specially crafted /etc/hosts file inside the jail.

Lior

 -Original Message-
 From: guy keren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 03:53
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 'per-process' DNS setup?


 i'm trying to 'fake' DNS settings for a _single_ process on a linux box
 (i.e. when this process will query for the address of a given host, it
 will get a reply i set a-priory, while other processes will get the proper
 repely).

 i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding
 various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow
 enough control to actually override such settings, without changing the
 settings for the whole box. i've been searching on google, and looking for
 info in the o'rreily DNS and bind book - to no avail.

 if anyone has an idea if such a feature is available - i'd be glad for any
 pointer. it sounds odd for such a feature not to be already available via
 the default libraries.

 thanks,
 --
 guy

 For world domination - press 1,
  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy


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'per-process' DNS setup?

2002-12-07 Thread guy keren

i'm trying to 'fake' DNS settings for a _single_ process on a linux box 
(i.e. when this process will query for the address of a given host, it 
will get a reply i set a-priory, while other processes will get the proper 
repely).

i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding 
various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow 
enough control to actually override such settings, without changing the 
settings for the whole box. i've been searching on google, and looking for 
info in the o'rreily DNS and bind book - to no avail.

if anyone has an idea if such a feature is available - i'd be glad for any 
pointer. it sounds odd for such a feature not to be already available via 
the default libraries.

thanks,
-- 
guy

For world domination - press 1,
 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy


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Re: 'per-process' DNS setup?

2002-12-07 Thread Yotam Rubin
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 03:53:00AM +0200, guy keren wrote:
 
 i'm trying to 'fake' DNS settings for a _single_ process on a linux box 
 (i.e. when this process will query for the address of a given host, it 
 will get a reply i set a-priory, while other processes will get the proper 
 repely).
 
 i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding 
 various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow 
 enough control to actually override such settings, without changing the 
 settings for the whole box. i've been searching on google, and looking for 
 info in the o'rreily DNS and bind book - to no avail.
 
 if anyone has an idea if such a feature is available - i'd be glad for any 
 pointer. it sounds odd for such a feature not to be already available via 
 the default libraries.
 
 thanks,

It should be relatively trivial to write a wrapper for the resolver functions
which will be preloaded for one specific process. See the LD_PRELOAD
environment variable, and the assorted dynamic linker functions in order
to get started.

-- Yotam Rubin




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Re: 'per-process' DNS setup?

2002-12-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:53:00 +0200 (IST)
guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i noticed there are various environment variables that allow overriding 
 various settings for the resolver library, but they don't seem to allow 
 enough control to actually override such settings

I'd like to (ab)use your question to general config mechanisms
available, and some comparisons:
Environment variables:
- Per-process
- Inherited (so we can make them global)
- No change (from outside) after process startup
- Flat name-space (not scaleable)
Global config files:
- Global
- Change may/may-not affect after process startup
  (e.g: SIGHUP to daemons etc.)
- Managed case by case (each with its own rules)
- Arbitrary types/ammounts of data
Global config database (e.g: Windows Registry, GNOME GConf):
- Global
- Change affect processes even after process startup
- Centralized management (but luckily, GConf doesn't
  force you to have all config in one big file)
- Hierarchical namespace (scaleable)

After looking at the pros/cons of each mechanism, I think it will be
illuminating to present another very old mechanism:
The X toolkit resource database:
- Global
- Hierarchical namespace (scaleable)
- The key heirarchy permit overrides:
- per type of application (window class)
- per instance of application (window)
- Centralized managment (xrdb(1)), but database
  may be spread at multiple locations (along
  the XAPPRESPATH and in the Xserver as well)
- Application may allow changes to occur after
  startup (instantiation), see editres(1)

Looks like it takes most of the pros from all methods
(except of inheritance -- designed not Unix specific),
without the cons.

Now, isn't it a pitty that this mechanism is dying? Both KDE
and GNOME chose to develop their own (inferior IMHO) mechanisms.

Hopefully later GConf versions (which isn't GNOME/X specific) will
include the missing parts, so we can return to the flexibility
we had in the 80's :-)


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