Re: Android phone question

2012-12-01 Thread Diego Iastrubni

On יום שני, 26 בנובמבר 2012 16:38:30 Steve G. wrote:
 Got myself a Galaxy Mini (was going to get Pocket, but Mini was discounted
 in Bug for Black Monday, Cyber Friday, or some such holiday).
 
 Does all I need, more, quite well. Screen not ideal size, but frankly, the
 latest iPhones and Galaxy models are getting too big to be used as phones,
 and are too small to be used as computers. 

Good you took the Mini, as Pocket is *way* too small. On screen keyboard will 
be useless.

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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-26 Thread Steve G.
Got myself a Galaxy Mini (was going to get Pocket, but Mini was discounted
in Bug for Black Monday, Cyber Friday, or some such holiday).

Does all I need, more, quite well. Screen not ideal size, but frankly, the
latest iPhones and Galaxy models are getting too big to be used as phones,
and are too small to be used as computers.

Thanks for all the advice. Now to move to Golan Telecom, before the special
offer expires...

Z.
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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-15 Thread Steve G.
Checked out prices, and the Galaxy 2 (2300 shekel) is a bit much.

What is the consensus regarding Galaxy S5300 Pocket? Runs Gingerbread
(Android 2.3) according to the specs (
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_pocket_s5300-4612.php), seems to
have a GPS, and priced somewhere between 1/3 and 1/4 of the 2?

I think it only works with Golan and Orange, but that is not a problem.

Z.
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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-15 Thread ronys
Bought this for my daughter a few weeks ago, when the spec I had was the
cheapest phone possible that can run whatsapp. She's* **very* happy with
it (also installed some other apps, of course, but no hacking - yet). To my
old eyes, the screen's a bit small, but hey, that's just me.

R.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:

 Checked out prices, and the Galaxy 2 (2300 shekel) is a bit much.

 What is the consensus regarding Galaxy S5300 Pocket? Runs Gingerbread
 (Android 2.3) according to the specs (
 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_pocket_s5300-4612.php), seems to
 have a GPS, and priced somewhere between 1/3 and 1/4 of the 2?

 I think it only works with Golan and Orange, but that is not a problem.

 Z.

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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-15 Thread Steve G.
Glad to hear your experience.  Can't bring myself to spend on the phone
twice as much and then some of my netbook...

The screen is small, but I hope it won't affect the sound quality. If your
daughter likes it, it probably has nice texting features, which might be
good, as a lot of times I can't talk but CAN text and email... So maybe I
should try it in a store and see how tiny is the virtual keyboard.

Thanks,

Z.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:13 AM, ronys ro...@gmx.net wrote:

 Bought this for my daughter a few weeks ago, when the spec I had was the
 cheapest phone possible that can run whatsapp. She's* **very* happy with
 it (also installed some other apps, of course, but no hacking - yet). To my
 old eyes, the screen's a bit small, but hey, that's just me.

 R.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:

 Checked out prices, and the Galaxy 2 (2300 shekel) is a bit much.

 What is the consensus regarding Galaxy S5300 Pocket? Runs Gingerbread
 (Android 2.3) according to the specs (
 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_pocket_s5300-4612.php), seems to
 have a GPS, and priced somewhere between 1/3 and 1/4 of the 2?

 I think it only works with Golan and Orange, but that is not a problem.

 Z.

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Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread Steve G.
Only marginally Linux related.

I recently returned for a long stay and quickly realized my phone does not
speak Hebrew - SMS is reduced to numbers, commas and periods. Well, it was
not a smart phone to begin with, and the culture shock just killed it.

So I am thinking switching my Orange number to a new phone, perhaps an
older model (cheaper, that's why - I don't want a phone that would make my
laptop jealous). I won't do apple, as they are too restrictive in what they
let me do. I may do minor app development - I am not a coder, but still
would like to be able to share waypoints from the GPS through an online
database with other people, so I may write something that can do that, in a
few years... Or play with other easy things to code, perhaps.

I hear Samsung Galaxy 2 is good, but I don't know if it has a GPS or
whether programming for it is the same as for the later models (can it take
the latest dessert-OS from Google?) - any better suggestions?

Any recommended calling plan (remember, the 054 number probably limits me
to Orange)? Any way to do it without breaking the bank?

Thanks,

Z.
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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread shimi
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:


 I hear Samsung Galaxy 2 is good, but I don't know if it has a GPS or
 whether programming for it is the same as for the later models (can it take
 the latest dessert-OS from Google?) - any better suggestions?


SGS2 is upgraded by the manufacturer themselves to 4.0.x, which is pretty
modern (depending who you ask :)). You can of course run your own firmware
at your own risk (i.e. cyanogenmod).

Of course it has GPS. Up not until a while ago, it probably was the
best-spec phone you could get... :) (IMHO, and including Apple's white
bricks)


 Any recommended calling plan (remember, the 054 number probably limits me
 to Orange)? Any way to do it without breaking the bank?


For a few years now, Israel has Number Portability. You don't have to stick
with Orange. You can go to whichever company you want, as long as your line
is not a pre-paid one (and if it is, you can convert it to a non pre-paid
one for last one time fee for your current provider, and then port your
number to a cheaper/better provider). The cheap ones nowdays are Golan, Hot
Mobile, YouPhone and Rami Levi, all depending on your usage patterns. (e.g.
if you SMS a lot but talk a little, Golan is probably best. If you talk a
lot, SMS a little, Hot would be cheaper. And if you do both [or use tons of
3G], one of the 'unlimited' offers of any one of them... would be better).

HTH,

-- Shimi
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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread Steve G.
Thanks, all! It definitely helped.

Now you mention it, I do remember a couple of years ago changing the law
was in the news, but then the visit ended and I forgot the consequences...

So where do I get a good deal on a (new?) Galaxy II phone? Do I look for it
at the provider's, or is it better to find one at one of the small phone
stores?

If I want to play with programming the phone - installing an app, not
changing the OS - do I risk bricking the phone, or is there a sandbox for
dummies to play with? Do I need a special toolkit?

Z.
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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread shimi
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:


 If I want to play with programming the phone - installing an app, not
 changing the OS - do I risk bricking the phone, or is there a sandbox for
 dummies to play with? Do I need a special toolkit?


You can create your own APK with whatever way you see fit (there are SDK's,
automatic app generators, and what not, a simply Google search will find
them all for you) - and then you have two options:

1. Create a Google Play account (one time fee), upload your app to the
Google Play store, and then install it just like any other app on any phone
2. Set the phone to accept ANY package, and then simply put it on some
server (or upload it to the phone), and browse to it. It is advisable [at
least by me] to turn off that feature once your app has been installed, to
avoid installing other apps from the net by mistake...

There are also Android emulators that you could run on your own PC to test
apps prior to uploading them to the phone.

Android has a permissions system - if you didn't ask for a permission to do
something in the manifest, the app won't be able to do it. Those can be
very specific. For example, if you don't allow access to storage - your app
can't touch the storage (at least allegedly ;)). When you install an app,
the phone prompts you which privileges it wants, and you may decided
whether you want to install that app or not. (the dangerous combinations
are 'full internet access' with 'access to personal stuff' such as USB
Storage or Contacts List. also services that cost you money if you don't
have an unlimited package, or you do, but your line is open to premium
services or int'l calling...)

HTH,

-- Shimi
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