Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

2004-08-23 Thread Gal Goldschmidt
Hi, My AMD views are mixed: 1. Shuttle X-PC AMD based on KM400, the CPU stay cool, the FAN is at low speed, but the Motherboard north bridge get hot I get RAM errors, I had to install 2 more little Fans to make it reliable on Israel's Summer. 2. We bought one of the first Asus dual

Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

2004-08-15 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thursday 12 August 2004 22:09, Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote: The newer Athlons have the same feature as P4 - they shutdown. This is a feature of the processor Intels don't shutdown, they throttle down until they can handle the hit. a P3 should throttle down to about 200MHz w/o a heatsink

Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

2004-08-13 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
-- - Original Message - From: Arnon Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.) We have here some dual-athlon MP computers, and we're having alot of troubles with them. My PC

Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I need to store a server at an isp, and I need support for amd64 bit at the kernel, apache, app servers, mysql, etc... And Most importantly an automated or centralized/packaged security updates from the dist. Is there a dist that does that? At first I was going on debian woody but then I saw

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Tzahi Fadida, from the post of Thu, 12 Aug: I need to store a server at an isp, and I need support for amd64 bit at the kernel, apache, app servers, mysql, etc... And Most importantly an automated or centralized/packaged security updates from the dist. Is there a dist that does

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Danny Lieberman \(Barak\)
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Dist question. Quoting Tzahi Fadida, from the post of Thu, 12 Aug: I need to store a server at an isp, and I need support for amd64 bit at the kernel, apache, app servers, mysql, etc... And Most importantly

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Eli Kara
On Thursday 12 August 2004 17:36, Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote: RH ES 3 is fine - BUT I dont recommend AMD for any serious server applications. We just had a very negative experience with RH ES and Fedora with AMD and we went back to pure Intel and its been a pleasure. FYI - AMD have big

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread amos
Hi, Interesting to hear that. I'm no hardware guru by any measure, but from the sidelines I got the impression that: 1. AMD indeed had heating problems at the beginning a few years ago. 2. AMD's rep in Israel doesn't know how to market it so it got extra-bad name here. 3. AMD got much better in

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, I can also add that you should buy Opteron, and not Athlon-64. It's intended for servers - both in some performance issues (IIRC it has more and/or faster caches, it's SMP-capable, etc.) and I hope also in manufacturing/testing. I can also say that I saw Cray has a new line of supercomputers

RE: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Tzahi Fadida
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ira Abramov Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dist question. Quoting Tzahi Fadida, from the post of Thu, 12 Aug: I need to store a server at an isp, and I need support for amd64

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Daniel Feiglin
The SuSE 9.1 Pro Update pack I have in front of me comes with a complete 64 bit distribution. I can't tell you much about it since I'm on 32 bit. (The distro is 2 DVD's with 32/64 bit binaries and sources, along with 4 CD's.) Tzahi Fadida wrote: I need to store a server at an isp, and I need

Re: Dist question.

2004-08-12 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Tzahi Fadida, from the post of Thu, 12 Aug: Do I need to license redhat es 3 for the security updates? Isn't there a realy free alternative, i.e. with free security updates (and of course support for the amd64)? I prefer to invest more in hardware and ISP services then in OS or

Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

2004-08-12 Thread Danny Lieberman \(Barak\)
for Giga-byte motherboards. Danny Lieberman OSI-Open Solutions Israel +972-8-970-1485(voice) +972-54-471114(Cell) www.opensolutions.co.il - Original Message - From: Tal Achituv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: AMD (was re: Dist question

Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

2004-08-12 Thread Arnon Klein
We have here some dual-athlon MP computers, and we're having alot of troubles with them. My PC (2xMP-1800) hangs after more than 15 minutes of 200% CPU usage. I think it's because the CPU heats the memory modules. Another one, used as a server, suffered a lot of crashes until we changed the