Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:04:18 +0200 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Orr Dunkelman writes: > > > I personally do not trust the database, its holders, and advise > > anyone who knows me (including students in my courses) to never go > > into it. > > I wouldn't trust it either, but let's assume for a sec

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-16 Thread Orr Dunkelman
1. I am a big supporter of biometric ID cards. However, no database is needed for them. 2. Even if you decide that a biometric database is needed (and it is not), fingerprints and face images are the erong biometrics to use. You want something which requires your consent for being sampled (best opt

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-16 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
The Interior ministry is what is called in the gemara a "shor muad" as far as their inability to safeguard their databases and our private data as long as I have the choice I would not trust them and when they try to force it I would definitely join whatever lawsuit to the highest court. In that se

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Orr Dunkelman writes: > I personally do not trust the database, its holders, and advise anyone > who knows me (including students in my courses) to never go into it. I wouldn't trust it either, but let's assume for a second that we do, and that we see benefits in biometric identification. Does i

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Yes. The Israeli biometric database (the law of "biometric identification methods") is such that once you are in, you cannot be taken out (even if they were willing to issue you an old ID card, the data would still be kept in the database). Without entering into the techincal discussion (the data

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread guy keren
gabor - i would have said "you deserve it" - but i guess it will be pointless :0 On 03/15/2015 02:38 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: BTW this anecdote might interest Yonathan Klinger and other anti-bio-id activists since it could be pointing a fatal flaw in the system. On 15 Mar 2015 9:26 pm, "Gabor

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread Ori Idan
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > BTW this anecdote might interest Yonathan Klinger and other anti-bio-id > activists since it could be pointing a fatal flaw in the system. > I guess you are right, it does point on a fatal flaw in the system. I guess that no one wanted to ris

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread Amos Shapira
BTW this anecdote might interest Yonathan Klinger and other anti-bio-id activists since it could be pointing a fatal flaw in the system. On 15 Mar 2015 9:26 pm, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: > A few weeks ago I asked to get a biometric ID. They took my finger prints > and asked all kinds of funny question

Re: OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread Amos Shapira
"mv Israel Chelm" (ref for the uninitiated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_humour#Che.C5.82m) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il

OT: Biometric ID

2015-03-15 Thread Gabor Szabo
A few weeks ago I asked to get a biometric ID. They took my finger prints and asked all kinds of funny questions to make sure its me. Today I went to pick up my new ID and their system could not recognize my finger prints. I got a bit nervous, but they calmed me down that I have nothing to worry b