[SOLVED] Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
Ok. Here's a workaround to what seems to be an openoffice bug (and might have very little to do with Windows 98 or unicode). Here's a summary of the problem: On Thursday 30 June 2005 13:21, Aviram Jenik wrote: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) Actually, if you go to your own sent-items folder and try to open that file, you'll see question marks where the Hebrew letters should be. The solution, is to use: File- Send- Document as Email instead of: File- Send- Document as MS Excel Since we're editing a XLS file, OO will send the XLS anyhow. However, the first option sends it correctly (Windows 98 can open it) and the second screws up the encoding, or the Hebrew, or god-knows-what. I'm using OpenOffice 1.1.4 on Debian. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
On Saturday 02 July 2005 20:16, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, Is anyone else experiencing the following problem: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) The same file can be opened on Windows 2000 (that supports Unicode) in the same office version. This happens repeatedly - i.e. every time I edit an excel sent from a Windows 98 and send it back the letters are shown as squares. Which Office version was that? Office 2k AFAIK. BTW, I tried the suggestion of saving it in Office 95 format - still no go. Maybe a locale change would help? If so, to what? - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, Is anyone else experiencing the following problem: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) The same file can be opened on Windows 2000 (that supports Unicode) in the same office version. This happens repeatedly - i.e. every time I edit an excel sent from a Windows 98 and send it back the letters are shown as squares. Which Office version was that? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
Hi, Is anyone else experiencing the following problem: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) The same file can be opened on Windows 2000 (that supports Unicode) in the same office version. This happens repeatedly - i.e. every time I edit an excel sent from a Windows 98 and send it back the letters are shown as squares. Any ideas what's happening or how to solve it? - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
Aviram yes. Windows 98 does Unicode differently - AFAIK it doesnt support UCS-2 like OO and MS Office require and modern OS's like NT, 2k and XP (and *x) all support you're screwed dL Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, Is anyone else experiencing the following problem: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) The same file can be opened on Windows 2000 (that supports Unicode) in the same office version. This happens repeatedly - i.e. every time I edit an excel sent from a Windows 98 and send it back the letters are shown as squares. Any ideas what's happening or how to solve it? - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Danny Lieberman Visit us at http://www.software.co.il Office + 972 8 970-1485 Cell + 972 54 447-1114 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
On Thursday 30 June 2005 14:54, Danny Lieberman wrote: Aviram yes. Windows 98 does Unicode differently - AFAIK it doesnt support UCS-2 like OO and MS Office require and modern OS's like NT, 2k and XP (and *x) all support But how do word/excel do their magic? you're screwed :-( dL - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, Is anyone else experiencing the following problem: - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98 - edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8) - Send it back to the person who sent it to you - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) The same file can be opened on Windows 2000 (that supports Unicode) in the same office version. This happens repeatedly - i.e. every time I edit an excel sent from a Windows 98 and send it back the letters are shown as squares. Any ideas what's happening or how to solve it? In what format did you save it from Oo ? Oo uses only unicode internally. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
MS Office 2k and above use UCS-2 for the content, MS Office does its magic because it recognizes documents generated on older versions of the operating system - you will see that there is a file format called Excel 5.0/95 Aviram Jenik wrote: On Thursday 30 June 2005 14:54, Danny Lieberman wrote: Aviram yes. Windows 98 does Unicode differently - AFAIK it doesnt support UCS-2 like OO and MS Office require and modern OS's like NT, 2k and XP (and *x) all support But how do word/excel do their magic? you're screwed :-( dL - Aviram -- Danny Lieberman Visit us at http://www.software.co.il Office + 972 8 970-1485 Cell + 972 54 447-1114 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and unicode and windows 98
On Thursday 30 June 2005 14:36, Peter wrote: - They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on Windows 98, but I'm just guessing) In what format did you save it from Oo ? Oo uses only unicode internally. OpenOffice calls it Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Peter - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]