Re: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Omer Zak wrote:

I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or
even smaller) with the following features:
1. Runs Linux.
2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window.
3. Audio input.
4. At least one USB port.
5. Ethernet port.
6. Runs on batteries.
7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install
Linux on the computer.
(Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by
sshing.)

I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a
system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where
can it be obtained in Israel.
  --- Omer
  

Two questions (Spanish inquisition non-withstanding).
1. How much do you want to pay for it?
2. Does it have to be Intel based?
3. How many units do you need?
4. USB host or device?

Any computer on a chip system can provide you with everything you 
asked for (well, you will need to adapt the battery yourself, but the 
voltage and, more importantly, amperage are compatible with battery 
operation). They should all have USB device support, I'm not sure 
whether it can be easily turned into USB host support or not. 
Development boards can go as low as 300$ for a board with hardly enough 
RAM to run Linux,  and start climbing from there.


And best of all, if your answer to 3 is a lot, the prices drop to 
peanuts.


Shachar

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Re: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:57 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 Omer Zak wrote:
  I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or
  even smaller) with the following features:
  1. Runs Linux.
  2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window.
  3. Audio input.
  4. At least one USB port.
  5. Ethernet port.
  6. Runs on batteries.
  7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install
  Linux on the computer.
  (Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by
  sshing.)
 
  I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a
  system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where
  can it be obtained in Israel.
--- Omer

 Two questions (Spanish inquisition non-withstanding).
 1. How much do you want to pay for it?

Less than Asus EeePC.

 2. Does it have to be Intel based?

No, but it needs to be supported by Debian.

I see that two just became two squared. :-)

 3. How many units do you need?

One - for experiments and prototyping.

 4. USB host or device?

USB host, as I want to connect USB devices to it.

 Any computer on a chip system can provide you with everything you 
 asked for (well, you will need to adapt the battery yourself, but the 
 voltage and, more importantly, amperage are compatible with battery 
 operation).

Thanks for the keyword suggestion.
   --- Omer
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Re: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread Matan Ziv-Av

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Omer Zak wrote:


I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or
even smaller) with the following features:
1. Runs Linux.
2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window.
3. Audio input.
4. At least one USB port.
5. Ethernet port.
6. Runs on batteries.
7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install
Linux on the computer.
(Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by
sshing.)

I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a
system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where
can it be obtained in Israel.


Something like tiny linux computer should give you a lot of options. 
Though I don't know of any example that includes all your requested 
features.



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RE: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread ronys
Hi,

A friend of mine (in Israel) worked with these a couple of years ago - no
idea how he bought them, though:

http://www.gumstix.com/

HTH,

Rony

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Subject: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or
even smaller) with the following features:
1. Runs Linux.
2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window.
3. Audio input.
4. At least one USB port.
5. Ethernet port.
6. Runs on batteries.
7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install
Linux on the computer.
(Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by
sshing.)

I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a
system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where
can it be obtained in Israel.
  --- Omer
-- 
One does not make peace with enemies.  One makes peace with former
enemies.
My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/

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RE: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 15:07 +0300, ronys wrote:
 Hi,
 
 A friend of mine (in Israel) worked with these a couple of years ago - no
 idea how he bought them, though:
 
 http://www.gumstix.com/

The comment about buying Gumstix stuff is pertinent - in their Web site,
Israel is not listed among the countries, to which they ship directly.
If any Linux-IL subscriber represents Gumstix in Israel, please stand
up.

 --- Omer
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release to be named after Snufkin.
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Re: Under which keywords can such systems be found?

2008-06-13 Thread Marc Volovic
Except for the very obvious choice of the Gumstix (which is the  
smallest you can normally get), look at http://www.embeddedarm.com.


You imply an ability to execute a full devel suite on it... I suggest  
cross-compiling...


M

On Jun 13, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Omer Zak wrote:


On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:57 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Omer Zak wrote:
I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone  
sized or

even smaller) with the following features:
1. Runs Linux.
2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window.
3. Audio input.
4. At least one USB port.
5. Ethernet port.
6. Runs on batteries.
7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install
Linux on the computer.
(Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by
sshing.)

I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for  
such a
system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and  
where

can it be obtained in Israel.
--- Omer


Two questions (Spanish inquisition non-withstanding).
1. How much do you want to pay for it?


Less than Asus EeePC.


2. Does it have to be Intel based?


No, but it needs to be supported by Debian.

I see that two just became two squared. :-)


3. How many units do you need?


One - for experiments and prototyping.


4. USB host or device?


USB host, as I want to connect USB devices to it.


Any computer on a chip system can provide you with everything you
asked for (well, you will need to adapt the battery yourself, but the
voltage and, more importantly, amperage are compatible with battery
operation).


Thanks for the keyword suggestion.
 --- Omer
--
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enemies.
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