Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
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Hi.
You should run both these commands (I will not disclose how you make it
apply after-reboot for now)

1. echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
2. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE

Don't forget to set correct DNS on your host B

Ez

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 First, I don't know much about iptables.

 Second, I have a Linux machine (A) with two nics, which is connected
 to the Internet via Bezeq ADSL router.
 This machines runs a pppoe connection to the intenet, so the
 connection is done via ppp0.
 On eth1 I have an inner IP address which I set manually (192.168.0.10).

 I have a second Linux machine (B), nearby. This machine is connected
 directly
 to machine A via ethernet cable. On eth0 I have an inner IP address which
 I set manually (192.168.0.11). So I can ping from 192.168.0.11 to
 192.168.0.10.

 Sometimes I want to connect from machine B to the Internet via machine
 A.
 I suppose this is possible by setting some iptables rule on machine A,
 and
 setting it to work in forwarding mode. Could this done by setting one
 iptables rule
 on machine A?
 What is the proper rule to achieve it?

 DS

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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Etzion Bar-Noy wrote:

Oops - and now with reply-all...

Hi.
You should run both these commands (I will not disclose how you make 
it apply after-reboot for now)


1. echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
2. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE

Don't forget to set correct DNS on your host B

Ez

Also, RTFM MSS Squashing

Shachar

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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hi,
  Well, this did not work at the first trial.
Then, I added 192.168.0.10 as a default gateway on 192.168.0.10 :
route add default gw 192.168.0.10
And it worked
Thanks!
DS


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Etzion Bar-Noy
eza...@tournament.org.il wrote:
 Oops - and now with reply-all...
 Hi.
 You should run both these commands (I will not disclose how you make it
 apply after-reboot for now)
 1. echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 2. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
 Don't forget to set correct DNS on your host B
 Ez
 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 First, I don't know much about iptables.

 Second, I have a Linux machine (A) with two nics, which is connected
 to the Internet via Bezeq ADSL router.
 This machines runs a pppoe connection to the intenet, so the
 connection is done via ppp0.
 On eth1 I have an inner IP address which I set manually (192.168.0.10).

 I have a second Linux machine (B), nearby. This machine is connected
 directly
 to machine A via ethernet cable. On eth0 I have an inner IP address
 which
 I set manually (192.168.0.11). So I can ping from 192.168.0.11 to
 192.168.0.10.

 Sometimes I want to connect from machine B to the Internet via machine
 A.
 I suppose this is possible by setting some iptables rule on machine A,
 and
 setting it to work in forwarding mode. Could this done by setting one
 iptables rule
 on machine A?
 What is the proper rule to achieve it?

 DS

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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Dan Shimshoni
shachar,
I googled for  MSS Squashing. Got 0 results!

What is this MSS Squashing? and how is it related to this issue?

rgs,
DS



On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote:
 Etzion Bar-Noy wrote:

 Oops - and now with reply-all...
 Hi.
 You should run both these commands (I will not disclose how you make it
 apply after-reboot for now)
 1. echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 2. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
 Don't forget to set correct DNS on your host B
 Ez

 Also, RTFM MSS Squashing

 Shachar

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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Dan Shimshoni wrote:

shachar,
I googled for  MSS Squashing. Got 0 results!

What is this MSS Squashing? and how is it related to this issue?

rgs,
DS


  

The term used in the iptables man page is clamp-mss-to-pmtu

The ethernet maximal transfer unit (MTU) is 1500 bytes (more or less, 
but in practice, this is the default). Since pppoe has some overhead, 
the effective MTU on ppp0 is lower (about 1470 bytes). Packets sent out 
by your machine B broadcast the desired packet length on the return path 
through a TCP option called MSS (maximal segment size).


Theoretically, TCP will figure out on its own that the path MTU (PMTU) 
is lower than the end MTU as advertised by the MSS. This has two 
disadvantages:
1. It has worse performance than advertising the correct number in the 
MSS to begin with
2. Some firewalls block the ICMP message used to report this case (code 
3 type 4 - fragmentation needed but don't fragment set). As a result, 
you get black hole syndrom.


The solution is to have iptables alter the MSS field of the TCP option 
to the value it knows is correct.


Shachar

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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Dan Shimshoni
ok, now this is more clear.

But is this problem specific to this scenario?
I mean, when I use a single machine to connect directly to the
internet via bezeq ADSL , without running any iptables rules at all,
using PPPOE ,  I should have the same problem, don't I ?
Is there a solution in this case ? (remember, I cannot use this
iptables clamp-mss-to-pmtuoption as in this scenario in fact I do
not use iptables at all).

Second, ifconfig ppp0 shows that the mtu is 1492.

DS

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote:
 Dan Shimshoni wrote:

 shachar,
 I googled for  MSS Squashing. Got 0 results!

 What is this MSS Squashing? and how is it related to this issue?

 rgs,
 DS




 The term used in the iptables man page is clamp-mss-to-pmtu

 The ethernet maximal transfer unit (MTU) is 1500 bytes (more or less, but in
 practice, this is the default). Since pppoe has some overhead, the effective
 MTU on ppp0 is lower (about 1470 bytes). Packets sent out by your machine B
 broadcast the desired packet length on the return path through a TCP option
 called MSS (maximal segment size).

 Theoretically, TCP will figure out on its own that the path MTU (PMTU) is
 lower than the end MTU as advertised by the MSS. This has two disadvantages:
 1. It has worse performance than advertising the correct number in the MSS
 to begin with
 2. Some firewalls block the ICMP message used to report this case (code 3
 type 4 - fragmentation needed but don't fragment set). As a result, you
 get black hole syndrom.

 The solution is to have iptables alter the MSS field of the TCP option to
 the value it knows is correct.

 Shachar

 --
 Shachar Shemesh
 Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.
 http://www.lingnu.com


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Re: WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Dan Shimshoni wrote:

ok, now this is more clear.

But is this problem specific to this scenario?
I mean, when I use a single machine to connect directly to the
internet via bezeq ADSL , without running any iptables rules at all,
using PPPOE ,  I should have the same problem, don't I ?
  
No. The packets go out through the ppp0 interface, which already has a 
lower MTU (1492 by your report). As such, they already carry the right MSS.


Shachar

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WAN connection through a Linux machine

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hello,
First, I don't know much about iptables.

Second, I have a Linux machine (A) with two nics, which is connected
to the Internet via Bezeq ADSL router.
This machines runs a pppoe connection to the intenet, so the
connection is done via ppp0.
On eth1 I have an inner IP address which I set manually (192.168.0.10).

I have a second Linux machine (B), nearby. This machine is connected directly
to machine A via ethernet cable. On eth0 I have an inner IP address which
I set manually (192.168.0.11). So I can ping from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.10.

Sometimes I want to connect from machine B to the Internet via machine A.
I suppose this is possible by setting some iptables rule on machine A, and
setting it to work in forwarding mode. Could this done by setting one
iptables rule
on machine A?
What is the proper rule to achieve it?

DS

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