Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006, Amos Shapira wrote about Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.: I understand differently. As I understand, Bourne Shell and Csh were both created around the same time, independently (the former at Bell Labs, the latter at Berkeley), to replace Unix's first attempt

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 09 July 2006 02:45, Amos Shapira wrote: On 09/07/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but also the CS one to teach bash programming instead of csh programming: If you go through all this to convince them to switch - I think you'll do them a greater favour by convincing them to

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Amos Shapira
On 09/07/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 July 2006 02:45, Amos Shapira wrote: On 09/07/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but also the CS one to teach bash programming instead of csh programming: If you go through all this to convince them to switch - I think

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006, Amos Shapira wrote about Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.: On 09/07/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but also the CS one to teach bash programming instead of csh programming: If you go through all this to convince them to switch - I think you'll do them

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Amos Shapira
On 09/07/06, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original Bourne Shell was released in 1977, almost 30 years ago. I am not aware of any standard bourne shell other than this antique. The question is, why limit yourself to teaching a 30 year old fossil? Again - there are two goals I

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006, Amos Shapira wrote about Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.: 1. Scriptability - for this I think that learning what a standard Bourne Shell will accept is an important step towards writing portable scripts (or just being able to move from one environment to another

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-09 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/07/06, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Interactive use - use whatever you like. But this leads to what happens in the Technion: people used tcsh because they liked its interactivity, and this lead them to use tcsh for scripts, which sucks! So you should pick a shell which is

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-08 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 12:57, yahav Biran wrote: Hi, Does any body know a good book with examples for learning tcsh. I would like to learn the benefits of using it by scripting such as: variables and arithmetic, looping, functions and other stuff. To complement what other people said, let

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-08 Thread Amos Shapira
On 09/07/06, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but also the CS one to teach bash programming instead of csh programming: If you go through all this to convince them to switch - I think you'll do them a greater favour by convincing them to switch to standard Bourne Shell[1] rather than learn

good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-04 Thread yahav Biran
Hi, Does any body know a good book with examples for learning tcsh. I would like to learn the benefits of using it by scripting such as: variables and arithmetic, looping, functions and other stuff. Thanks yahav = To unsubscribe,

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
yahav Biran wrote: Hi, Does any body know a good book with examples for learning tcsh. First, I don't think there is such a thing as tcsh programming. I'm not aware that programming tcsh is, in any way, different than programming csh. You are far more likely to find what you need by

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting yahav Biran, from the post of Tue, 04 Jul: Hi, Does any body know a good book with examples for learning tcsh. I would like to learn the benefits of using it by scripting such as: variables and arithmetic, looping, functions and other stuff. start by GFI of course...

Re: good book in tcsh shell programming.

2006-07-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Shachar Shemesh: At the risk of starting a flame war, why not study bourne shell programming instead? [snip] Actually, there is one reason to learn {,t}csh - which may or may not apply as the case may be - most biotech software/systems are done with csh glue (except where I had my hand