Re: OT: looking for a job
I understand your dislike for Social Networks, but as a hiring manager at my current position, the first thing I did was try to find you on LinkedIn. Not having a LinkedIn profile is going to make it unnecessarily more difficult to find a position. You don't need to post anything, you don't need to read anyone's else's posts; I do highly recommend, though, that you have a well thought-out (and updated) profile on LinkedIn. On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:40 PM Maayan Eshed wrote: > Hi Didi and Micha > Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good > workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: > > I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste > of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social > networks. > If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen > the account there with less reluctance. > > Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. > I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. > > You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: > > Ma'ayan > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David > wrote: > >> Hi Maayan, >> >> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >> and searching LinkedIn. >> Why not both? >> >> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are >> through/thanks to it. I have >> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such >> as job retention when >> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >> >> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >> jobs that can suit >> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 >> people now and is >> growing quite quickly. >> >> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there >> that some old acquaintance >> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... >> >> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >> advertisement for Red Hat. I >> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's >> ok... >> >> Good luck and best regards, >> -- >> Didi >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello guys and girls >> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in >> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle >> (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >> > >> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I >> am. So: >> > >> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: >> > >> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >> just a wish and not a demand. >> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >> teach me from scratch may be fine. >> > >> > Skills: nothing unusual: >> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >> sometimes (; >> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >> deployed on a job. >> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >> purposes. >> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots >> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). >> > >> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >> > But I think you get the idea. >> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >> you teach well and pay well for it. >> > >> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. >> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with >> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. >> > >> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >> relevant. >> > Cheers >> > Ma'ayan. >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: looking for a job
Fortunately, right now supply and demand greatly favors the job applicant, so getting your name out there just might be sufficient to land a good job that can be done without risk of infection. LinkedIn is one way to do that. After running Troubleshooters.Com for the last 20 years, about all I'm qualified for is running Troubleshooters.Com or being a corporate trainer, yet LinkedIn keeps sending me possible jobs, and every week 3 to 5 companies view my LinkedIn page. I'm pretty sure if I tweaked my resume to show my Python skills, my familiarity with C, my knowledge of HTML and CSS, and my Troubleshooting skills and knowledge, all of which are quite separate and in a normal job market would have employers saying "jack of all trades", in this job market I'd get lots of queries. But of course, I like running Troubleshooters.Com. SteveT Michael Shiloh said on Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:57:43 +0400 >Hi Maayan, > >I agree with you that LinkedIn is a social network and I suppose if I >were a purist I wouldn't use it. But I feel that the benefits are >useful and it's not nearly as offensive or dangerous as YouTube or >Facebook, so I tolerate them. > >Good luck in your search and let us know what you find! > >On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Maayan Eshed >wrote: > >> Hi Didi and Micha >> Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good >> workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: >> >> I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR >> waste of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for >> social networks. >> If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll >> reopen the account there with less reluctance. >> >> Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. >> I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. >> >> You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: >> >> Ma'ayan >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Maayan, >>> >>> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >>> and searching LinkedIn. >>> Why not both? >>> >>> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >>> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >>> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel >>> are through/thanks to it. I have >>> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications >>> (such as job retention when >>> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >>> >>> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >>> jobs that can suit >>> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ >>> 500 people now and is >>> growing quite quickly. >>> >>> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed >>> there that some old acquaintance >>> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as >>> well... >>> >>> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >>> advertisement for Red Hat. I >>> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope >>> that's ok... >>> >>> Good luck and best regards, >>> -- >>> Didi >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello guys and girls >>> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline >>> > for a >>> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still >>> active in my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to >>> a propper channle (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >>> > >>> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily >>> > doing >>> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, >>> here I am. So: >>> > >>> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both >>> > ways: >>> > >>> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >>> > >>> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >>> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats >>> > really >>> just a wish and not a demand. >>> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something >>> > you >>> teach me from scratch may be fine. >>> > >>> > Skills: nothing unusual: >>> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >>> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some >>> > reminding. I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even >>> > uninstall stuff >>> sometimes (; >>> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but >>> > never >>> deployed on a job. >>> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and >>> > personal >>> purposes. >>> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to >>> > work >>> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware >>> hotspots (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and >>> specks). >>> > >>> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >>> > But I think you get the idea. >>> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to
Re: OT: looking for a job
Hi Maayan, I agree with you that LinkedIn is a social network and I suppose if I were a purist I wouldn't use it. But I feel that the benefits are useful and it's not nearly as offensive or dangerous as YouTube or Facebook, so I tolerate them. Good luck in your search and let us know what you find! On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Maayan Eshed wrote: > Hi Didi and Micha > Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good > workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: > > I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste > of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social > networks. > If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen > the account there with less reluctance. > > Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. > I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. > > You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: > > Ma'ayan > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David > wrote: > >> Hi Maayan, >> >> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >> and searching LinkedIn. >> Why not both? >> >> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are >> through/thanks to it. I have >> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such >> as job retention when >> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >> >> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >> jobs that can suit >> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 >> people now and is >> growing quite quickly. >> >> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there >> that some old acquaintance >> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... >> >> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >> advertisement for Red Hat. I >> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's >> ok... >> >> Good luck and best regards, >> -- >> Didi >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello guys and girls >> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in >> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle >> (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >> > >> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I >> am. So: >> > >> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: >> > >> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >> just a wish and not a demand. >> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >> teach me from scratch may be fine. >> > >> > Skills: nothing unusual: >> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >> sometimes (; >> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >> deployed on a job. >> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >> purposes. >> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots >> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). >> > >> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >> > But I think you get the idea. >> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >> you teach well and pay well for it. >> > >> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. >> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with >> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. >> > >> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >> relevant. >> > Cheers >> > Ma'ayan. >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: looking for a job
Hi Didi and Micha Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social networks. If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen the account there with less reluctance. Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: Ma'ayan On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David wrote: > Hi Maayan, > > Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list > and searching LinkedIn. > Why not both? > > I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, > and I wouldn't be surprised if I > heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are > through/thanks to it. I have > absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such > as job retention when > through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). > > I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have > jobs that can suit > you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 > people now and is > growing quite quickly. > > Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there > that some old acquaintance > moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... > > To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an > advertisement for Red Hat. I > considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's > ok... > > Good luck and best regards, > -- > Didi > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed > wrote: > > > > Hello guys and girls > > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a > long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in > my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle > (is LinkedIn a real thing?) > > > > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing > non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I > am. So: > > > > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: > > > > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without > catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) > > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really just > a wish and not a demand. > > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you > teach me from scratch may be fine. > > > > Skills: nothing unusual: > > I can Bash, I can Vi. > > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. > > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff > sometimes (; > > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never > deployed on a job. > > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal > purposes. > > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work > before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots > (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). > > > > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: > > But I think you get the idea. > > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if you > teach well and pay well for it. > > > > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. > > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but would > sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with masks > fully on. Maybe. Depends. > > > > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something > relevant. > > Cheers > > Ma'ayan. > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: looking for a job
Didi, you made a great suggestion for Maayan: Maayan, you could use LinkedIn to see if anyone you know is working at a place that's interesting to you, and then reach out to them. A personal introduction is alway so much better than a cold call, even if you have to go through the formal application process. On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:58 PM Yedidyah Bar David < linux...@didi.bardavid.org> wrote: > Hi Maayan, > > Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list > and searching LinkedIn. > Why not both? > > I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, > and I wouldn't be surprised if I > heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are > through/thanks to it. I have > absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such > as job retention when > through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). > > I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have > jobs that can suit > you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 > people now and is > growing quite quickly. > > Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there > that some old acquaintance > moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... > > To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an > advertisement for Red Hat. I > considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's > ok... > > Good luck and best regards, > -- > Didi > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: looking for a job
Hi Maayan, Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list and searching LinkedIn. Why not both? I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, and I wouldn't be surprised if I heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are through/thanks to it. I have absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such as job retention when through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have jobs that can suit you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 people now and is growing quite quickly. Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there that some old acquaintance moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an advertisement for Red Hat. I considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's ok... Good luck and best regards, -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: looking for a job
Hi Ma'ayan, I really feel for you. Under slightly different circumstances I'd be in the exact same situation as you. I can't offer you any work here at Troubleshooters.Com because I do everything myself. About all I can do is offer you a 12% commission on book orders you refer to me. Steve (Litt, from Orlando Florida USA) Maayan Eshed said on Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:56:35 +0200 >Hello guys and girls >I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still >active in my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a >propper channle (is LinkedIn a real thing?) > >As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, >here I am. So: > >*C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both >ways:* > >*Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.)* >I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >just a wish and not a demand. >Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >teach me from scratch may be fine. > >*Skills*: nothing unusual: >I can Bash, I can Vi. >git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >sometimes (; >I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >deployed on a job. >I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >purposes. >I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware >hotspots (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). > >Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >But I think you get the idea. >Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >you teach well and pay well for it. > >I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use >it. Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, >with masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. > >Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >relevant. >Cheers >Ma'ayan. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
