Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-12 Thread Lior Kesos
ubuntu ppc rocks although the greatest pitfall in any linux installment is the lack of support for the closed source airport driver - that means no wireless if you don't buy a usb wireless dongle. Lior On 10/11/05, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:40:40PM

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-11 Thread Oded Arbel
Ira Abramov wrote: btw: can OS-X run on non mac hardware ? No. Not officially that is. No need to look too far with Google and other tools, I found several locations around the web with torrents of the Developper Release DVD and even a pre-installed VMWARE vDisk to download and

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-11 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 05:52:45PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: This seems to be the only way to go - if you want Apple's OS, you're going to have to shell out for Apple's hardware, and with the current local Apple distributer (Yeda), this is going to be quite costly: Yeda collects a large

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-11 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:40:40PM +0200, Peter wrote: What kind of Linux can be installed on an iMac 500MHz ? Yellow Dog, Debian, and I think FC4. STFW on ppc linux. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (077)-424-1667 IL Fax:

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. On Monday 10 October 2005 09:53, Erez D wrote: hi i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux programs can be ported to work on OS X. as i do not like

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i do not like windows, but i need it for various resons (ms office compatibility, sites that work only on explorer etc...) i was wondering: is OS X the solution e.g. : can it function as both linux (including all linux apps, shells,

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. Mac OS X is Darwin with the Mac GUI, where Darwin forked from FreeBSD (and is now maintained separetely). This is not precise. It wasn't forked from FreeBSD. Darwin is Mach

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Alex Shnitman
btw: can OS-X run on non mac hardware ? Intel has recently informed that it is going to abandon the Power-based architecture for Intel Pentium-based ones. the new version of Mac OS X will run on dedicated Intel hardware. It may be available for other computers, but may not support

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 10 October 2005 11:26, Alex Shnitman wrote: btw: can OS-X run on non mac hardware ? Intel has recently informed that it is going to abandon the Power-based architecture for Intel Pentium-based ones. the new version of Mac OS X will run on dedicated Intel hardware. It may

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 10 October 2005 11:02, Michael Green wrote: On 10/10/05, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. Mac OS X is Darwin with the Mac GUI, where Darwin forked from FreeBSD (and is now maintained separetely). This

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:53:27AM +0200, Erez D wrote: i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux programs can be ported to work on OS X. That's because OSX consists of 2 parts. Darwin and OPEN SOURCE version of BSD and AQUA a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi Shlomi, You're right about the fact that they are not going to allow MacOS to run on non-Apple hardware. However, they neither confirmed nor denied trying to use DRM hardware. They may or may not do that. In any case, Mac OS X for Pentiums will only support the particular hardware present

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:37:44AM +0200, Michael Green wrote: IE for OSX is not being developed anymore. AFAIK current (last) version is 5.2. MS Office doesn't include all of the components of MS Office for Win (no Access, no Outlook). Hebrew support in MS Office doesn't exist. Not a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Apple have adamantly stated that they're not going to allow MacOS to run on non-Apple computers, and they're apparently going to use some kind of DRM hardware to try to enforce it. Given the history of DRM in the computer industry, though, I don't see how it will hold out for more than

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:37:44AM +0200, Michael Green wrote: Hebrew support in MS Office doesn't exist. Not a quality replacement for Windows Office imho. Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his Mac. He mixes Hebrew, Arabic, English and several other languages in his text. Oh? At least according to several places I read, Mac Office 2004 does not support hebrew RTL well. Here's a snippet from ThinkSecret web

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
--Apple-Mail-53-324784965 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi. Writing this from OSX :-) i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 11:02, Michael Green wrote: This is not precise. It wasn't forked from FreeBSD. Darwin is Mach kernel with FreeBSD-synchronised userspace tools. Here is a very good site that explains about OSX and it's relationship with FreeBSD in detail. It is meant for Linux hackers

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 12:27, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Since 10.3 (10.4) is current, you can run X windows and manage them with Aqua, so that they are hard to distinguish from regular Mac programs. Umm... No. Applications that use X11 still don't have the same feel and the same level of

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 12:42, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his Mac. He mixes Hebrew, Arabic, English and several other languages in his text. Then he probably doesn't use more than a few Hebrew words here and there. Office

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Geoffrey S. Mendelson, from the post of Mon, 10 Oct: Since 10.3 (10.4) is current, you can run X windows and manage them with Aqua, so that they are hard to distinguish from regular Mac programs. according to at least 3 friends of mine that run X apps like GAIM on X11-in-Aqua it's a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 19:01, Ira Abramov wrote: according to at least 3 friends of mine that run X apps like GAIM on X11-in-Aqua it's a painful, slow solution, which lacks support for lots of stuff (Hebrew) and tends to crash Why run GAIM on OSX? Use Adium- it is FLOSS, uses gaim libraries