Re: 2.4.0test10pre4 lockups

2000-10-22 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:51:52PM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > > > edit ./drivers/ide/ide-pci.c and enforce the stub at line 516. > > > > pci_enable_device(dev); > > > Hmm, it was already enabled: > > #if 1 /* what do do with this useful tool

RE: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Marty Fouts
FWIW, 'message passing' is the wrong answer to the question 'how do I separate the components of a kernel into distinct modules for ' but that's because it's tied to the Accent ancestry of the Mach style "microkernel". One of the few things we did get right in Brevix was the idea of an interface

Re: 2.4.0test10pre4 lockups

2000-10-22 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:51:52PM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > edit ./drivers/ide/ide-pci.c and enforce the stub at line 516. > > pci_enable_device(dev); Hmm, it was already enabled: #if 1 /* what do do with this useful tool ??? */ if (pci_enable_device(dev)) return; #endif

Re: 2.4.0test10pre4 lockups

2000-10-22 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > > I've seen 3 user land lockups with test10pre4 so far on my UP K6-400, running > it for a day. Almost certainly due to the incorrect BUG()'s in mm/vmscan.c (see the kernel mailing list for exact line numbers - I think it's lines 101-104 that should

Re: 2.4.0test10pre4 lockups

2000-10-22 Thread Andre Hedrick
edit ./drivers/ide/ide-pci.c and enforce the stub at line 516. pci_enable_device(dev); I worried that this would break ix86 platforms. On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Hi Linus, > > I've seen 3 user land lockups with test10pre4 so far on my UP K6-400, running > it for a day.

2.4.0test10pre4 lockups

2000-10-22 Thread Andi Kleen
Hi Linus, I've seen 3 user land lockups with test10pre4 so far on my UP K6-400, running it for a day. test9 which ran before for more than a week was rock stable. They all happened during some IO load (e.g. a gcc compile or a loop mke2fs), usually with some CPU eaters running in the

Contact address for Donald Becker

2000-10-22 Thread Brian F. G. Bidulock
Does anyone know the current contact e-mail address for Donald Becker? I was wishing to contact him concerning a possible GPL violation concerning some of his Linux driver code. -- Brian F. G. Bidulock [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.openss7.org/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Idea for new kernel configurator

2000-10-22 Thread Chirag Kantharia
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 12:17:24PM -0400, Jason Hihn wrote: | dabbled in the kernel other than applying some patches. Recently at work | I've had to develop an application which would allow a user to configure | a device, even if that device was invented after the application was | written. This

Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Nick Piggin
> So what we really need to do is get some custom "RAM blitter" into our > hardware to do the memory copies needed for fast context switching and > message passing. don't you think you should quit while you're behind? > Too bad nobody on this list works at an electronics design company... ;-P

Re: question wrt context switching during disk i/o

2000-10-22 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Mark Hahn wrote: > > > > > > This is something that has been bugging me for a while. I notice > > > > on my system that during disk write we do much context switching, > > > >

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > [snip] > > crossing memory protection domains is slow, there's no way around > > it (except better hardware). > > So what we really need to do is get some custom "RAM blitter" into our > hardware to do the memory copies

Re: 2.2.18pre17: usb-uhci verbosity

2000-10-22 Thread David Rees
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:59:00PM -0400, Martin Hicks wrote: > > I moved from 2.2.18pre15 to 2.2.18pre17 and now I get the following > usb-uhci stuff being spewed to my terminal: > > Oct 20 20:54:19 plato kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame# 704 > Oct 20 20:54:20 plato kernel:

Re: Request for info on proc system update frequency

2000-10-22 Thread Jeremy Fitzhardinge
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 04:48:48PM +0100, Stephen Tweedie wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:31:24AM -0400, John Kacur wrote: > > I'm trying to understand how the proc file system works. In particular > > I'd like to know more about the algorithm by which the information is > > updated and how

Re: IDE disk slow? There's help...

2000-10-22 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > > No the are the pci device ide but different guts. This is the ugliness > > that most never see. > > I think you left some words out. Are you saying that this is one of those > chips which change PCI id in order to give the appearance of

[OT] Re: K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-22 Thread Barry K. Nathan
> IIRC, the K6-2+ is really a K6-3 core with the on-chip L2 cache disabled > because of defects. My recollection (starting with the K6-3+ and then going to the K6-2+ - if there are any errors, please correct me): The K6-3+ is a K6-3 produced on a smaller process (180nm, as opposed to the K6-3's

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
I'll explain my reason for this rant. The Amiga was my second computer, and the one I spend most of my computing life on. I've grown up noticing all the things the PC/Windows did wrong while the Amiga did it right (mostly UI stuff). Later, I got my own PC, running Windows 95. Horror. Win95

Re: IDE disk slow? There's help...

2000-10-22 Thread Jeremy Fitzhardinge
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:22:59PM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.. > > > > > I reliably get 30MB/s with my IBM 30G 7200rpm ATA66 drive, using a > > > Via VT82C586 controller. 2.4.0-test9. Modern drives are really fast.

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
[snip] > crossing memory protection domains is slow, there's no way around > it (except better hardware). So what we really need to do is get some custom "RAM blitter" into our hardware to do the memory copies needed for fast context switching and message passing. Too bad nobody on this list

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Michael Meissner
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 11:16:36PM -0400, David Relson wrote: > At 09:14 PM 10/22/00, Horst von Brand wrote: > >Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > You can blame it on the compiler which is included with RH7.0. It's a > > > pre-release version of some sort. It seems that the gcc

Re: getting module symbols into ksyms

2000-10-22 Thread Jerry Kelley
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try. Jerry - Original Message - From: "Keith Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "linux kernel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: Re: getting module symbols into ksyms > On Sun,

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread David Relson
At 09:14 PM 10/22/00, Horst von Brand wrote: >Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > You can blame it on the compiler which is included with RH7.0. It's a > > pre-release version of some sort. It seems that the gcc people are not > > happy that RH included this version with RH7. > >It is

Tux 2 Patents

2000-10-22 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Update on Tux 2 Patent analysis. Of the three patents identified by Daniel, one has been eliminated as a potential for infringement and the other two have not. We have obtained copies from the USPTO of the full patent files for the patents originally identified (3). The detail on one of

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:12:06PM -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > [...] > > If you are going to upgrade, you should at least consider going to > > 2.4.0test-flavor-of-week, so that your crashes will at least contribute to > > Linux development. :) >

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It has come to our attention that some GNU/Linux distributions are > currently shipping with ``GCC 2.96''. Please, not again! Red Hat 7.0's "GCC 2.96" is binary compatible for C with all past and future versions. It will probably not be binary

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > If you are going to upgrade, you should at least consider going to > 2.4.0test-flavor-of-week, so that your crashes will at least contribute to > Linux development. :) Careful there! 2.4.0-test10-pre3 on i686 is the prime suspect in massive

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You can blame it on the compiler which is included with RH7.0. It's a > pre-release version of some sort. It seems that the gcc people are not > happy that RH included this version with RH7. It is the *kernel's* fault, as far as can be ascertained now.

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
c> "J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:43:30 Gregory Maxwell wrote: [...] > I am now compiling my 2.2.18-pre kernels with gcc-2.95 and work fine. It is > 2.96 what is broken. 2.95.2 has been working with kernels for quite some time. 2.96+ should (?) work with

Re: test10-pre nfs compile failure

2000-10-22 Thread Paul Jakma
ok... looks like a patch went wrong at some point. (or i forgot to remove a patch from Trond from a little while ago). apologies, Paul Jakma. On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Mark Hahn wrote: > > i've gotten the following message the last 2 times i've tried to > > compile the kernel (test10-pre{3,4}):

CML 0.8.2 available

2000-10-22 Thread Eric S. Raymond
The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/kbuild/ Release 0.8.2: Sun Oct 22 21:52:47 EDT 2000 * Added -W option to permit undefined symbols in -I files. * Miscellaneous typo fixes. This version is synchronized with 2.4.0-test9. I believe it is ready

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: >Although I am a programmer, I am not yet a kernel hacker, so some of my claims Point 1. >*very* efficient. However, there are some drawbacks to microkernels that have >been raised Point 2. >(and I don't have the expertise to argue about

Re: [PATCH] cpu detection fixes for test10-pre4

2000-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Pavel Machek wrote: >> > * include/asm-i386/elf.h: >> > - make Pentium IV and other post-P6 processors use the "i686" >> > family name (same fix as the system_utsname.machine init fix >> > which went into include/asm-i386/bugs.h in test10-pre4) >> > >> >> We

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Jurgen Kramer wrote: >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:02:19 +0200 >From: Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem ! >

Re: K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-22 Thread Vince Weaver
> IIRC, the K6-2+ is really a K6-3 core with the on-chip L2 cache disabled > because of defects. Hmmm I don't think so. From the dmesg of my K6-2+ [a 500Mhz underclocked to 75Mhzx6 on my poor PA-2007 motherboard] CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K L1 D Cache: 32K (32 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 128K CPU:

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: >Hi , > >I have download kernel-2.2.17 from kernel.org and wanna to compile it under >redhat 7 . when compiling start after few minutes show me this error message >: > >make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arch/i386/lib' >gcc

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:58:45PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: > Could you elaborate? AFAIK, both Neutrino and exec.library are microkernels, > and they by no means lack performance. Even Windows is a microkernel (sort > of), and it doesn't lack in performance that much.

Re: K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-22 Thread Brian Gerst
"Barry K. Nathan" wrote: > > > The K6-2+ is actually the CPU that was released > > _after_ K6-3. Go figure. > > > > Why they didn't call it K6-4 is anyones guess. > > I read somewhere (I don't have a URL handy, sorry) that the reason AMD went > with K6-2+ is that, apparently, the K6-2 name is

Re: Proposal: driver initialization pipelining

2000-10-22 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > There ought to be _some_ initializations that don't require interrupts? > > Registering the file systems and network protocols, stuff like that? > > Give up on IDE, it is too broken. Yeah S- Can the whole thing and 90% of all users of

re: K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-22 Thread davej
In the words of Barry K. Nathan : > > Why they didn't call it K6-4 is anyones guess. > I read somewhere (I don't have a URL handy, sorry) that the reason AMD > went with K6-2+ is that, apparently, the K6-2 name is well-known, and > they wanted to build on that... Sounds like a marketing thing.

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > A few years ago, there was an intense debate around the question of > cooperative vs. preemptive multitasking operating system design. Today, > however, cooperative multitasking is a thing of the past, and it is virtual= > ly > undisputed that the

K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-22 Thread Barry K. Nathan
> The K6-2+ is actually the CPU that was released > _after_ K6-3. Go figure. > > Why they didn't call it K6-4 is anyones guess. I read somewhere (I don't have a URL handy, sorry) that the reason AMD went with K6-2+ is that, apparently, the K6-2 name is well-known, and they wanted to build on

Re: AMD CPU misdetection?

2000-10-22 Thread davej
Andreas Eibach proclaimed.. >Vince, wasn't it supposed to be > > A K6-2+: >model name : AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor > > A K6-3: > model name : AMD-K6(tm)-III Processor I don't think so. The K6-2 yeilds what you mentioned above. The K6-2+ is actually the CPU that was released

raid2 patches for 2.2.x

2000-10-22 Thread Wakko Warner
Something higher than the one for kernel 2.2.11 I found it once, but I can't find it again. (and people.redhat.com isn't accepting http connections) -- Lab tests show that use of micro$oft causes cancer in lab animals - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread davej
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed... > Could you elaborate? AFAIK, both Neutrino and exec.library are > microkernels, and they by no means lack performance. Whilst I've not used Neutrino, I did use exec.library for several years (and was part of a project to rewrite the bad parts before CBM went

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 01:00:14AM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote: > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:36:14 Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > > I am now compiling my 2.2.18-pre kernels with gcc-2.95 and work fine. It is > > > 2.96 what is broken. > > > > It compiles. Does it really work fine for all tasks

test10-pre nfs compile failure

2000-10-22 Thread Paul Jakma
i've gotten the following message the last 2 times i've tried to compile the kernel (test10-pre{3,4}): make[2]: Entering directory `/misc/src/linux-2.4.0/fs/nfs' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
Yikes! Within 5 minutes, I already got a few personal attacks! (and some very insightful messages as well.) I'll end this here before it gets too out-of-control. I should have done my homework before posting. I don't totally agree that my posts were wrong (as an end user, I can definitely see

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread J . A . Magallon
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:36:14 Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > I am now compiling my 2.2.18-pre kernels with gcc-2.95 and work fine. It is > > 2.96 what is broken. > > It compiles. Does it really work fine for all tasks and all people? Who > knows. It is know that your described configuration is

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Jan Dvorak
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:43:30PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be compiled by certain versions > of GCC. GCC 2.7.2 or EGCS 1.1.2 are only supported compilers > (linux/Documentation/Changes). > > Unfortunately, 2.7.2 and EGCS 1.1.2 are really

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Brian F. G. Bidulock
-- Forwarded message -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- It has come to our attention that some GNU/Linux distributions are currently shipping with ``GCC 2.96''. We would like to point out that GCC 2.96 is not a formal GCC release nor will there ever be such a release.

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:53:26AM +1000, Peter Waltenberg wrote: > Use the GNU Hurd, it won't run on most hardware you'd like to use, and it's > probably slower than Linux, but it's a microkernel. I'll ignore that. > I've worked with microkernels, IMHO, they suck :). Good idea, but

Re: Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Dwayne" == Dwayne C Litzenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dwayne> First of all, I'd like to say that I'm not writing this to Dwayne> piss anyone off. It's not a flame, a troll, or a personal Dwayne> attack on anyone. I my writing will aid in the improvement of Dwayne> Linux. Please

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:15:08AM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:43:30 Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be compiled by certain versions > > of GCC. GCC 2.7.2 or EGCS 1.1.2 are only supported compilers > >

Re: 2.4.0-test9 Total freeze with LPRng-3.6.26

2000-10-22 Thread Keith Owens
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:53:41 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got a total freeze, while trying the command 'lpr example_textfile.txt' on > a machine with no attached printer. > Unfortunately there was no log according to this. > > I am using LPRng-3.6.26 with

Topic for discussion: OS Design

2000-10-22 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
First of all, I'd like to say that I'm not writing this to piss anyone off. It's not a flame, a troll, or a personal attack on anyone. I my writing will aid in the improvement of Linux. Please read this with as much neutrality as you can summon. Although I am a programmer, I am not yet a

Re: getting module symbols into ksyms

2000-10-22 Thread Keith Owens
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:26:04 -0500, "Jerry Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >kernel = 2.2.14-5.0 for i686 UP >insmod reports version 2.3.10-pre1 >ksymoops is 0.7c Upgrade both modutils and ksymoops, both are well out of date. Also kernel 2.2.14 does not have the code to handle symbols if you

Re: interaction between kernel and glibc

2000-10-22 Thread Richard Polton
So what are these unusual conditions? Why would I not need to recompile? If the interface changes then glibc will need recompiling and as far as I can see, the kernel interfaces change relatively often, particularly in the development tree. Moreover, how does one tell which kernel the C library

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread J . A . Magallon
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:43:30 Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be compiled by certain versions > of GCC. GCC 2.7.2 or EGCS 1.1.2 are only supported compilers > (linux/Documentation/Changes). "Bugs" in the kernel are related with things like supposing that

Re: [Criticism] On the discussion about C++ modules

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
"Linux Kernel Developer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Wasn't the original complaint that the kernel headers use C++ keyword > and thus prevent the writing of, at least some, modules in C++. I have > written C++ code before that was as least as fast as comparable C code and > more efficient in

Re: freeing memory

2000-10-22 Thread Horst von Brand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > i am allocating some 1000 bytes of memory as folows > > f_malloc() > { > . > for (i=1 to 10) > { > size = 1000; > pAddr[i] = (unsigned long) kmalloc(size, GFP_DMA | GFP_BUFFER); > } > ... > } You don't check if you got the memory

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread J . A . Magallon
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:54:32 Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: > Hi , > > I have download kernel-2.2.17 from kernel.org and wanna to compile it under > redhat 7 . when compiling start after few minutes show me this error message > : > > make[2]: Entering directory

Re: Proposal: driver initialization pipelining

2000-10-22 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > There ought to be _some_ initializations that don't require interrupts? > Registering the file systems and network protocols, stuff like that? Give up on IDE, it is too broken. You should get away with paralelising USB and SCSI scan. Perhaps you can speed boot up with initrd+modules,

Re: [PATCH] cpu detection fixes for test10-pre4

2000-10-22 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > * include/asm-i386/elf.h: > > - make Pentium IV and other post-P6 processors use the "i686" > > family name (same fix as the system_utsname.machine init fix > > which went into include/asm-i386/bugs.h in test10-pre4) > > > > We should never have used anything but "i386" as

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Jurgen Kramer
Hi, You can blame it on the compiler which is included with RH7.0. It's a pre-release version of some sort. It seems that the gcc people are not happy that RH included this version with RH7. Cheers, Jurgen Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: > Hi , > > I have download kernel-2.2.17 from

Re: AMD CPU misdetection?

2000-10-22 Thread Andreas Eibach
- Original Message - From: "Vince Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A plain K6: >model : AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions > > A K6-2: >model name : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor > > A K6-3: >model name : AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor > > A K6-2+: > model name

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:24:32AM +0330, Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: > Hi , > > I have download kernel-2.2.17 from kernel.org and wanna to compile it under > redhat 7 . when compiling start after few minutes show me this error message > : Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be

Re: oops when doing stupid thing

2000-10-22 Thread FORT David
FORT David wrote: > Hi, i got the following oops, to obtain it i've done something stupid: > i'm using quite frequently a serial console, today my computer was > already running, > i've unplugged the serial console and have plugged a modem instead, and > then the oops. > That's not really a bad

Re: Crash on boot with 2.4.0-test10-pre4

2000-10-22 Thread Tigran Aivazian
Why don't you capture the oops via serial console, pipe it through ksymoops and send us a decent output, please? As is, your output is useless as it contains _your_ kernel's virtual addresses which are obviously different from _mine_. Regards, Tigran - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread David Relson
Hamid, RedHat includes two versions of gcc. gcc-2.96 is a developmental snapshot of the compiler project and is not able to build a kernel. Also included is kgcc, as in KernelGCC, which is what you should be using. If you don't have the kgcc...rpm installed, install that and use it. David

oops when doing stupid thing

2000-10-22 Thread FORT David
Hi, i got the following oops, to obtain it i've done something stupid: i'm using quite frequently a serial console, today my computer was already running, i've unplugged the serial console and have plugged a modem instead, and then the oops. That's not really a bad oops as it takes me 20 minutes

IDE-Floppy and devfs

2000-10-22 Thread Andreas Franck
Hi Paul, hi linux-kernel audience, some szggestion for the upcoming 2.4 release ide-floppy driver: It really works nice without devfs, but the ide-floppy behaviour in connection with devfs is a bit strange. If ide-floppy is compiled as a module, which is loaded (or autoloaded by some smart

Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani
Hi , I have download kernel-2.2.17 from kernel.org and wanna to compile it under redhat 7 . when compiling start after few minutes show me this error message : make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arch/i386/lib' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.17/include -D__ASSEMBLY__

Re: PC speaker driver patch for 2.4.0-test10-pre3

2000-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:39:09 -0700 (PDT) >From: Dr. Kelsey Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Linux Kernel mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN;

Re: PC speaker driver patch for 2.4.0-test10-pre3

2000-10-22 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
> Is there a major compelling reason that this patch isn't included > in the standard kernel tree? > > > -- > Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Open source advocate > Computer Consultant - Capslock

[PATCH] 2.2.18pre17 updates to IDE-floppy driver

2000-10-22 Thread Paul Bristow
Andre, Alan, others, As agreed with Gadi and Andre I have taken over the ide-floppy driver maintainence from Gadi Oxman (thanks for all your work so far Gadi!). Anyone with outstanding patches/suggestions etc could you send them to me? Please find attached the patch to update the IDE-Floppy

Re: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-22 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: [snippage] > Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in > the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since > the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy > studying for the M-CAP test.

Crash on boot with 2.4.0-test10-pre4

2000-10-22 Thread Jon Akers
This problem presented itself on boot, and occurred after the system had frozen on me. I watched the system freeze in the first place (Netscape crashed it, I believe) Current system configuration is as follows: AMD K6-200 w/ 64MB RAM, Adaptec 2930 Ultra-SCSI. GCC version: egcs-2.91.66

kernel BUG at vmscan.c:102!

2000-10-22 Thread Richard Torkar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doing some heavy i/o on my 2.4.0-test10 (rar) while downloading at 10Mb/s at the same time resulted in this: Oct 22 20:03:38 toor kernel: kernel BUG at vmscan.c:102! Oct 22 20:03:38 toor kernel: invalid operand: Oct 22 20:03:38 toor kernel:

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2000-10-22 Thread Tulika Pradhan
hi ! i need to use ramdisk for root for my embedded linux ppc board. is there some way that i can combine the images vmlinux and ramdisk image so that they cn be loaded by the bootloader as a single image ? the reason i need this is because i am using a existing loader which can simply download

Re: linux-2.4.0-test9

2000-10-22 Thread Akira YOSHIYAMA
Hi all , At first, thank you Jeff Garzik for your advise. I added debug infomations to apm.c and have tried it. See below: (APM driver enabled and output tons of debug messages)... apm_do_idle(): line 564 apm_bios_call_simple(): line 484 .. (and yenta driver was loaded and it proved

Re: USB problem in 2.2.18pre17

2000-10-22 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 12:53:26PM +0200, Hans-Joachim Baader wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > my digital camera (Kodak DC 280) doesn't work with USB in 2.2.18pre17 > > > (and previos kernels). It did work with 2.4.0-test9. Here's the log: > > > > What is the BIOS setting of MPS? If it's 1.4, please

2.4.0-test9 Total freeze with LPRng-3.6.26

2000-10-22 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
hi, I got a total freeze, while trying the command 'lpr example_textfile.txt' on a machine with no attached printer. Unfortunately there was no log according to this. I am using LPRng-3.6.26 with Linux-2.4.0-test9. If I can help to gather additional informations, please give me a hint,

Idea for new kernel configurator

2000-10-22 Thread Jason Hihn
First let me introduce myself and explain where I am coming from. I'm a just out of college software engineer, I've been using Linux since about 1994. I hope this is the right place to air this idea. I've never dabbled in the kernel other than applying some patches. Recently at work I've had to

Re: question wrt context switching during disk i/o

2000-10-22 Thread Anton Blanchard
> bdflush is broken in current kernels. I posted to linux-mm about this, > but Rik et al haven't shown any interest. I normally see bursts of > up to around 40K cs/second when doing writes; I hacked a little > premption counter into the kernel and verified that they're practially > all

Re: getting module symbols into ksyms

2000-10-22 Thread Jerry Kelley
kernel = 2.2.14-5.0 for i686 UP insmod reports version 2.3.10-pre1 ksymoops is 0.7c If the insmod version is not the same as modutils some guidance on finding the modutils version would be appreciated. (The system installed is the RedHat 6.2 distribution.) Thanks in advance. Jerry -

Re: getting module symbols into ksyms

2000-10-22 Thread Jerry Kelley
Yes, I know about the HTML crap. I realized after I sent it what I had done and knew I'd get flack about it. Regarding the issue, I'm using 2.2.14-5.0. I'll have to check version of ksymoops and modutils. It's too bad that a seemingly simple question like this ends up being so complicated. I'll

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:33:53PM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > About uglyness. Violations of protocol are ugly. When all > the things proceed in a legal way undistingushable, > it is beautiful. 8) Ok, I'm convinced. The only thing I don't like is that to untrained observers, the repeated

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:56:41PM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > > Connection established, and I send no data > > But why did you set DEFER_ACCEPT then? 8) I was just experimenting. > It becomes legal, as soon as we do not enter ESTABLISHED > state. Your ACK is just ignored and

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread kuznet
Hello! > Connection established, and I send no data But why did you set DEFER_ACCEPT then? 8) I explained when it can be used. > packet. Why would we lose the connection? Not enter "quit", wait until connection will timeout. (It is not very soon normally). And look what happens. Hint: the

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 04:25:39PM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Until actively connecting client will send some data, > service will and must retransmit syn-ack. Otherwise you will lose connection. I don't see why. This is a trace with my patch applied, can you tell me what's wrong with

[PATCH] Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:03:37PM +0200, bert hubert wrote: > From a userland perspective, it works very well. It just wastes packets. > > > Sorry for advertising it as a working feature. > > The fix should be easy. I'm looking in to it. This patch fixes TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT support. First the

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 11:48:22AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Patch follows beneath. On a related note, I'm not sure if this is right > > (connecting to a daemon using TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT) > > Yes, looks very broken. I guess there was a reason why it was never > documented. >From a userland

Re: USB problem in 2.2.18pre17

2000-10-22 Thread Hans-Joachim Baader
Hi Greg, > > my digital camera (Kodak DC 280) doesn't work with USB in 2.2.18pre17 > > (and previos kernels). It did work with 2.4.0-test9. Here's the log: > > What is the BIOS setting of MPS? If it's 1.4, please try 1.1 > > Let me know if this helps out any. With 1.1 it works great. Can you

Re: [Criticism] On the discussion about C++ modules

2000-10-22 Thread Linux Kernel Developer
Wasn't the original complaint that the kernel headers use C++ keyword and thus prevent the writing of, at least some, modules in C++. I have written C++ code before that was as least as fast as comparable C code and more efficient in some ways. Whether this could be or not be reproduced in

Update to autofs4 for new(-ish) VFS stuff

2000-10-22 Thread Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Ever since the addition of struct vfs_mount, autofs4 has got the "is this filesystem busy" test wrong. This patch against 2.4.0-test9 makes it smarter. J --- linux.orig/CREDITS Tue Oct 3 17:30:15 2000 +++ linux/CREDITS Tue Oct 3 17:56:04 2000 @@ -795,13 +795,16 @@ S: Germany

Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT possible bug + documentation patch for tcp.7

2000-10-22 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 09:44:31PM +0200, bert hubert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 08:50:54AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > Linux 2.4 has the "dataready" filter in form of the (currently undocumented) > > TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT option. > > Patch follows beneath. On a related note, I'm not sure

[bug] floppy act. LED comes on after APM resume

2000-10-22 Thread David Ford
Ok, this is getting really humorous and I've no way to explain it. Every few kernels I install on my laptop, when doing an APM resume, the floppy activity LED comes on and stays on until I do something to change the status of the floppy such as attempting a mount (with or without a floppy in the

Re: just a small VM idea

2000-10-22 Thread Tigran Aivazian
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Samium Gromoff wrote: > Let`s imagine were having two mounted swap partitions. swap partitions are never mounted, there is no swapfs for Linux (and it is arguable whether we need one). > Current situation, if im not going wrong is the next: [nice, but a few years late :)

[PATCH] Fix 32byte cacheline dependency

2000-10-22 Thread Andi Kleen
Hi Alan, This patch against 2.2.18pre15 replaces the hardcoded 32 byte cache line alignment for the .data.cacheline_aligned section with a dynamic one depending on asm/cache.h [so that K7-SMP will hopefully be handled gratefully] Please apply, -Andi ---

[PATCH] Make sure cpu_data[] is cache line aligned

2000-10-22 Thread Andi Kleen
Hi Alan, cpu_data[] should be cache line aligned to make the per CPU pte allocation tricks work without false sharing. This patch ensure this (against 2.2.18pre15). Without it it is rather a gamble (1 : 8). With 32 byte cache lines it probably does not hurt too much because the stuff at the

just a small VM idea

2000-10-22 Thread Samium Gromoff
Let`s imagine were having two mounted swap partitions. Current situation, if im not going wrong is the next: swapping to 1st partition, till there is a space on it then swapping to the next one... But if make two basic checks: 1) if these partitions are on different drives 2) i/o speed

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