Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
Stefan, you write: > [Re: read-only filesystem vs. read-only device] > Anyway, it is "especially" critical on the root filesystem because the > authors of filesystems can't support two ro states on boot. > > Reiserfs allowed -oro,noreplay. > > Please tell me how to specify "noreplay" for the in

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
Daniel writes: > Yes, and so long as your journal is not on another partition/disk things > will eventually be set right. The combination of a partially updated > filesystem and its journal is in some sense a complete, consistent > filesystem. > > I'm curious - how does ext3 handle the possibili

RE: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread Grover, Andrew
> From: Michael D. Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > How is each of your setups, ie, what is compiled in kernel > and what is > > a module ? My guess is: > > - ACPI+APM in kernel: ACPI wins > > - APM in kernel, ACPI module; APM starts, blocks ACPI > > - and so on > > Nope. If the

Re: Dell Precision 330 (Pentium 4, i850 chipset, 3c905c)

2001-01-04 Thread Andrew Morton
I Lee Hetherington wrote: > > Anybody get this working with 2.2.18 or 2.4.0-prerelease? I can't seem > to get the on-board 3c905c to work. I've seen it without an interrupt > assignment in /proc/interrupts. With Red Hat's pump (DHCP), it sends > packets out but doesn't seem to see the response

RE: ACPI in Via Apollo (vt82C686) broken badly in 2.4.x ?

2001-01-04 Thread Grover, Andrew
> From: safemode [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Well, it seems the only way to look at sensor readings with > lmsensors is > to activate acpi in linux for my motherboard. Can you please send me the output from dmesg, as well as /proc/interrupts? I don't think anyone's tried lmsensors and acpi. It

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac1

2001-01-04 Thread Miles Lane
Bill Wendling wrote: > Also sprach Keith Owens: > } On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:54:29 -0800, > } Miles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > } >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi' > } >/usr/src/linux/Rules.make:224: *** Recursive variable `CFLAGS' references itself >(eventually).

Patch: Fix for r128 DRM compilation problem

2001-01-04 Thread Gareth Hughes
The 2.4.0 kernel will fail to compile if the r128 DRM module is enabled but AGP support (agpgart) is not. The following patch fixes this error: --- linux/drivers/char/drm/Config.inWed Aug 9 02:27:33 2000 +++ linux.gth/drivers/char/drm/Config.inFri Jan 5 18:11:53 2001 @@ -9,7 +9,7 @

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:17:49PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > > > > > I agree. I can set up a "linux-hotplug" group using SourceForge if > > others also think that this is a needed thing. I don't want to see > > things like this happen again. > > > > Actually almost anyone c

RE: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Andre Tomt wrote: > I would wait for at least 2.4.10 on production systems (servers in > particular). Not to start a flame or anything (yeah, right), but 2.2.x was > not usable on such systems before it reached 2.2.16 IMHO. > > So, I guess, the "crippling" of driver submissio

FW: You've Been Slashdotted

2001-01-04 Thread Dylan Vanderhoof
Likewise with my mirror out of Semaphore in Seattle. However, most people aren't using LKAMS, they're hitting zeus.kernel.org. -D --- Dylan C. Vanderhoof Internal Software Developer Semaphore Corporation http://www.semaphore.co

Re: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Michael D. Crawford
You might find it interesting to read the section entitled "Monkeywrenching the Virtual Machine" towards the end of "Why We Should All Test the New Linux Kernel". It's in my second comment after the main article: http://advogato.org/article/224.html I understand Linus' desire to have more wides

Re: You've Been Slashdotted

2001-01-04 Thread Scott Laird
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Michael D. Crawford wrote: > > You're probably not going to have much luck getting any source off any servers > tonight. Might I suggest you pop over to Slashdot and give the clueless some > clues on getting their new kernels working? They need help. Dunno -- my mirror (ft

Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: [RFC] ext2_new_block() behaviour

2001-01-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
Stephen, you write: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 05:31:12PM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote: > > BTW, what inumber do you want for whiteouts? IIRC, we decided to use > > the same entry type as UFS does (14), but I don't remember what was > > the decision on inumber. UFS uses 1 for them, is it OK with you

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:54:33PM -0800, David Brownell wrote: > Matt -- > > > It's pretty much the same patch (functionally) as I posted to the > > linux-usb-devel mailing list, which I presumed would inform the hotplugging > > people. Mea culpa, I seem to have been in error there. > > Miles

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread Michael D. Crawford
As suggested, I added: apm=power-off to the kernel line of my grub menu.lst file and now I can power off. I almost jumped when the machine snapped off - my bloody monitor doesn't go dark when it loses signal it lights up with an RGB test pattern (TTX - don't buy one). I think the real reason it

RE: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Andre Tomt
> I was in your position, I feel it may be a mistake. > I personaly do not trust the 2.4.x kernel entirely yet, and would > prefer to > wait for 2.4.1 or 2.4.2 before upgrading from 2.2.18 to ensure last-minute > wrinkles have been completely ironed out, and I know there are people who > share my

Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Miles Lane
Matthew Dharm wrote: > Well, I'll be the one to fall on my sword... > > This is probably my fault. The matching code was pretty much broken for a > non-trivial subset of usb devices. I'd submitted the patch to Linus before > the holdiays, but it was rejected for various reasons. After some ba

Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Anuradha Ratnaweera
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote: > modutils-2.4.0.tar.gz Source tarball, includes RPM spec file > modutils-2.4.0-1.src.rpmAs above, in SRPM format > modutils-2.4.0-1.i386.rpm Compiled with egcs-2.91.66, glibc 2.1.2 > modutils-2.4.0-1.sparc.rpm Compiled for comb

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread ludovic fernandez
george anzinger wrote: > Roger Larsson wrote: > > > > > This part can probably be put in a proper non inline function. > > Cache issues... > > +/* > > +* At that point a scheduling is healthy iff: > > +* - a scheduling request is pending. > > +

Re: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Tim Riker
Nicholas, While I can see what you are asking, here are some comments in Alan's favor: He did not say people can not release 2.2 patches without 2.4 patches. He only said they will not be integrated into the kernel distribution without 2.4 patches. If people continue to develop for 2.2 and have

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac1

2001-01-04 Thread Bill Wendling
Also sprach Keith Owens: } On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:54:29 -0800, } Miles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: } >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi' } >/usr/src/linux/Rules.make:224: *** Recursive variable `CFLAGS' references itself (eventually). Stop. } } In drivers/acpi/Makefi

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread Michael D. Crawford
> How is each of your setups, ie, what is compiled in kernel and what is > a module ? My guess is: > - ACPI+APM in kernel: ACPI wins > - APM in kernel, ACPI module; APM starts, blocks ACPI > - and so on Nope. If they're both in the kernel, APM wins. When I built with both ACPI and APM,

You've Been Slashdotted

2001-01-04 Thread Michael D. Crawford
Even mighty ftp.kernel.org has fallen under the /. effect after they ran the annoucenement: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/05/0049246&mode=thread You're probably not going to have much luck getting any source off any servers tonight. Might I suggest you pop over to Slashdot and give t

Re: Compilation error in Red Hat 6.2

2001-01-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
> Kindly let me know in which part comes the IDE, ext2 and ELF after > running the command make menuconfig. Oh come on, these things aren't *that* hard to find. In any case, judging from the device number 08:01, I suspect you are using SCSI rather than IDE. Check your SCSI options. You must c

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac1

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:54:29 -0800, Miles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi' >/usr/src/linux/Rules.make:224: *** Recursive variable `CFLAGS' references itself >(eventually). Stop. In drivers/acpi/Makefile, delete the line $(MODINCL)/%.ve

[PATCH] StackGuard patch for 2.4.0

2001-01-04 Thread Greg KH
Just because I _know_ someone will ask me if I don't send this out, here is the patch to allow the kernel to compile with the StackGuard version of gcc. thanks, greg k-h -- greg@(kroah|wirex).com diff -Naur -X dontdiff linux-2.4.0/Makefile linux-2.4.0-greg/Makefile --- linux-2.4.0/Makefile

Re: Fw: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Nicholas Knight wrote: > since Mark posted his views to the list, I figured I could safely post the > conversation I've been having with him in email No excuse is good enough to justify posting private mail. -Mike - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsu

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Matthew Dharm
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:54:33PM -0800, David Brownell wrote: > Miles had a suggestion for a "linux-hotplug" mailing list; this > could have been a good issue to coordinate on such a smaller > (lower traffic?) list. Given that I (and many people on linux-scsi, it seems) are looking to "hotplugg

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac1

2001-01-04 Thread Miles Lane
I get this error when attempting to compile. I ran: make mrproper cp ../.config . make oldconfig make dep make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi' /usr/src/linux/Rules.make:224: *** Recursive variable `CFLAGS' references itself (eventually). Sto

[PATCH] 8139too.c patch to allow setting of MAC address to actually work.

2001-01-04 Thread Ben Greear
This was gleaned from conversations with Donald Becker w/regard to why: ifconfig eth1 hw ether a:b:c:d:e:f fails to work with the RTL drivers. This fixes the problem, at least on my machine: (The new line has ### in front of it..) 8139too.c, line 1229, from kernel 2.4.prerelease: /*

2.4.0-ac1 : 'make dep' drivers/acpi error

2001-01-04 Thread Frank Davis
Hello, I just downloaded 2.4.0-ac1 , and received the following error during 'make dep': make -C acpi fastdep make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi' /usr/src/linux/Rules.make:224: *** Recursive variable `CFLAGS' references itself (eventually). Stop. I saw Keith's email a

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread george anzinger
Roger Larsson wrote: > > On Thursday 04 January 2001 09:43, ludovic fernandez wrote: > > Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > The key idea here is to disable preemption on spin lock and reenable on > > > spin unlock. That's a practical idea, highly compatible with the > > > current way of doing things.

Fw: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Nicholas Knight
since Mark posted his views to the list, I figured I could safely post the conversation I've been having with him in email - Original Message - From: "Mark Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Nicholas Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Change of

Re: USB problems with 2.4.0: USBDEVFS_BULK failed

2001-01-04 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:52:15PM -0800, Jordan Mendelson wrote: > > Alright, this is driving me nuts. I have a Canon S20 digital camera > hooked up to a Sony XG series laptop via the USB port and am using s10sh > to access it. s10sh uses libusb 0.1.1, but I've also tried it using > libusb 0.1.2

Re: make menuconfig: where's USB Mass Storage?

2001-01-04 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001, Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:42:11 -0200, > Fr d ric L . W . Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is this just me? Configuring 2.4.0 with make menuconfig with > >CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y I get no prompt for USB Mass Storage, > >but the .config

Re: make menuconfig: where's USB Mass Storage?

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:42:11 -0200, Fr d ric L . W . Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is this just me? Configuring 2.4.0 with make menuconfig with >CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y I get no prompt for USB Mass Storage, >but the .config is saved with # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE is o

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread David Brownell
Matt -- > It's pretty much the same patch (functionally) as I posted to the > linux-usb-devel mailing list, which I presumed would inform the hotplugging > people. Mea culpa, I seem to have been in error there. Miles had a suggestion for a "linux-hotplug" mailing list; this could have been a go

make menuconfig: where's USB Mass Storage?

2001-01-04 Thread Frédéric L . W . Meunier
Is this just me? Configuring 2.4.0 with make menuconfig with CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y I get no prompt for USB Mass Storage, but the .config is saved with # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE is not set I have the following: # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG

Re: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Hahn
> I personaly do not trust the 2.4.x kernel entirely yet, and would prefer to ... > afraid that this may partialy criple 2.2 driver development. egads! how can there be "development" on a *stable* kernel line? maybe this is the time to reconsider terminology/policy: does "stable" mean "bugfixes

[Announce] kdb v1.7 is available for 2.4.0

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://oss.sgi.com/projects/kdb/download/ix86/ contains patches for kdb v1.7 against kernel 2.4.0. No significant changes since 2.4.0-test13 and 2.4.0-prerelease. Just fitting the patch to the new kernel.

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> I have an old IBM Aptiva 486 SX that actually DOES something like this; what > it does is, it suspends to disk when you hit the power button (you have to > turn that option on though). > Point being, if it was possible back then (6 years ago), why on earth would > it be too expensive now? I'd g

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Chipzz
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? > > > in an enbedded device you can > > 1. setup the power switch so it doesn't actually turn things off (it > > issues the shutdown command instead) > > C

Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Matthew Dharm
Well, I'll be the one to fall on my sword... This is probably my fault. The matching code was pretty much broken for a non-trivial subset of usb devices. I'd submitted the patch to Linus before the holdiays, but it was rejected for various reasons. After some back and forth, Linus finally acce

Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:59:12 +1100, Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >modutils-2.4.0.tar.gz Source tarball, includes RPM spec file I have just found out that there was an incompatible change to struct usb_device_id during 2.4.0-prerelease :(((. That means that all versions of de

USB problems with 2.4.0: USBDEVFS_BULK failed

2001-01-04 Thread Jordan Mendelson
Alright, this is driving me nuts. I have a Canon S20 digital camera hooked up to a Sony XG series laptop via the USB port and am using s10sh to access it. s10sh uses libusb 0.1.1, but I've also tried it using libusb 0.1.2 without any luck. libusb uses usbfs to access to the device from userspace.

Re: Chipsets, DVD-RAM, and timeouts....

2001-01-04 Thread Andre Hedrick
Because I was not prepared for the sudden release! Nor is the TIME Solution that is in final testing. On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Hakan Lennestal wrote: > > 2.4.0 and still no IBM DTLA drives in the hpt366 bad_ata66_4 list > (or udma 66 disabled by default in any other way). > > /Håkan > > In messag

user-mode port 0.37-2.4.0

2001-01-04 Thread Jeff Dike
The user-mode port of 2.4.0 is available. It was updated to 2.4.0 and that's it. The project's home page is http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net The project's download page is http://sourceforge.net/project/filelist.php?grou p_id=429 Jeff - To unsubscribe fr

Re: Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-04 Thread Manfred Bartz
"Christopher Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone ever considered including a microsecond-precision > monotonically-increasing counter in the kernel? This would allow for > easy timing of alarms and such by using absolute values of when the > alarm should expire rather than a list o

Re: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Nicholas Knight
- Original Message - From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions > > Linux 2.4 is now out, it is also what people should be concentrating on first > when issuing producti

Announce: ksymoops 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mirror at ftp://ftp..kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/ksymoops/v2.4 ksymoops-2.4.0.tar.gz Source tarball, includes RPM spec file ksymoops-2.4.0-1.src.rpmAs above, in SRPM format ksymoops-

Crypto in 2.4

2001-01-04 Thread Jon Masters
Hello, I am aware of work being done to create crypto patches for 2.4 however I am wondering what kind of time scale is likely to be involved before a patch for 2.4.0 becomes available and, more importantly, when such a patch will be suitable for daily use (disclaimers withstanding obviously). L

Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ftp://ftp..kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4 modutils-2.4.0.tar.gz Source tarball, includes RPM spec file modutils-2.4.0-1.src.rpmAs above, in SRPM format modutils-2.4.0-1.i3

ACPI in Via Apollo (vt82C686) broken badly in 2.4.x ?

2001-01-04 Thread safemode
Well, it seems the only way to look at sensor readings with lmsensors is to activate acpi in linux for my motherboard. According to the docs, my motherboard is supposed to be supported and is detected when linux boots, the problem comes when i try to move the mouse (in console and X). It totally

Change of policy for future 2.2 driver submissions

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
Linux 2.4 is now out, it is also what people should be concentrating on first when issuing production drivers and driver updates. Effective from this point 2.2 driver submissions or major driver updates will only be accepted if the same code is also available for 2.4. Someone has to do the mergi

Linux 2.4.0ac1

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4 2.4.0-ac1 o Resync with Linus o Fix serial compile bug (Bill Notthingham) o Clean up lapbether (Hans Grobler) o Fix endian handling in ne.c

2.4.0 module compile error (DRI for ATI Rage?)

2001-01-04 Thread stewart
{standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:8: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for .modinfo gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/local/build/2.4.0/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DMODULE -DMODVE

Re: [patch] big udelay's in fb drivers (2.4.0-prerelease)

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> udelay(15000); /* delay 15ms */ > > the comment is just extra baggage. No sense touching it generally, but if > you're gonna change it to mdelay.. The comments are 15 (50) implying someone swapped them around for a reason and noted it - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscrib

Can I submit a bug report on this mailing list?

2001-01-04 Thread Evan Thompson
Alright. I hear about the 2.4.0 release. I have, in my mailbox, many messages titled "Re: And oh, btw...", BUT NO ORIGINAL MESSAGE! What happened? Is my stupid mailserver selective or something? Anyways. My bug report is: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not send me important mails that are important

Re: [reiserfs-list] reiserfs patch for 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, I have been doing some dbench runs with the original and latest (Jan 4 22:xx) prerelease.diff kernels. Looks like both the latest kernels and the reiserfs patch both are costing some performance. prerelease MB/susersystem cpu time ext214.650.5s76.4s 2

Re: Chipsets, DVD-RAM, and timeouts....

2001-01-04 Thread Hakan Lennestal
2.4.0 and still no IBM DTLA drives in the hpt366 bad_ata66_4 list (or udma 66 disabled by default in any other way). /Håkan In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Woodhouse writes: > > The IBM DTLA drives aren't in the hpt366 bad_ata66_4 list still. --- e-

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
> "JA" == J A Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JA> How is each of your setups, ie, what is compiled in kernel and JA> what is a module ? Good point. I never tried w/ APM in kernel and ACPI as module. Just both in and ACPI in / APM module. (And that last was only due to operator error

compile problem in prerelease-ac6 on alpha

2001-01-04 Thread Peter De Schrijver
Hi, At line 1156 of kernel/sched.c a function is called which only seems to exist on ia32 (show_trace). I guess this should be : #if __i386__ show_trace(p->thread.esp): #endif Cheers, Peter. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a mess

Re: [patch] big udelay's in fb drivers (2.4.0-prerelease)

2001-01-04 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > Once the comments are unweirded, they become completely superfluous. At > > which point its best not to have them - when someone next comes along and > > changes the delay, it might end up disagreeing with the comment and > > causing confusion. > > Before y

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.05 J . A . Magallon wrote: > > > > > Either way you need the userspace daemon running to actually do > > anything. Even my notebook's key for toggling full-screen vs > > un-expanded display on the lcd does nothing unless apmd or acpid > > as applicable are running > > I forgot

Re: Printing to off-line printer in 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Gunther Mayer wrote: >Jesse Pollard wrote: >> Originally, (wayback machine on) this was handled by a pull-up resistor >> in the parallel interface, on the "off-line" signal. ANY time the printer >> was powered off, set offline, or cable unplugged, the "off-line" signal >> was

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread egger
On 4 Jan, Michael D. Crawford wrote: > I got the message "Power Down" but my system stayed on and I was still > in my shell. > I'm using the binary of halt that came with Slackware 7.1. Do I need > to update any of my executable programs to work with the new kernel? > The only thing I've don

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.05 James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: > Michael> APM gives its message first in the boot process, then later > Michael> ACPI does. But ACPI says something like "APM already > Michael> present, exiting", so the doc is wrong both ways you read it, > Michael> or else ACPI doesn't succeed in the i

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > I have 1 patch which has not been answered and I still dont know if you > want it only for 2.5. The swap clustering looks ok, but it also looked like something I could safely delay until a bit later in the 2.4.x series. Basically, the PageDirty han

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
Michael> APM gives its message first in the boot process, then later Michael> ACPI does. But ACPI says something like "APM already Michael> present, exiting", so the doc is wrong both ways you read it, Michael> or else ACPI doesn't succeed in the intended behavior to Michael> override APM. I get

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Miles Lane wrote: > > Is there a patch against test12 somewhere? I don't see it. In v2.4/test-kernels: patch-2.4.0-prerelease.gz - patch from test12 to the prerelease prerelease-to-final.gz - patch from prerelease to final. And it will apparently take some time for the f

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.05 Alan Cox wrote: > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/prerelease-diff > > Please don't flood kernel.org though... use a mirror. > > You'll find the proper 2.4.0 on > > ftp://ftp.linux.org/pub/linux/linux-2.4/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz > Also ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/prerelease-diff > > Please don't flood kernel.org though... use a mirror. > > You'll find the proper 2.4.0 on > > ftp://ftp.linux.org/pub/linux/linux-2.4/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz Oops slight detail error ftp.linux.org.uk - To unsubsc

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Olsen
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:36:32PM -0800, ludovic fernandez wrote: > > Saying that, I definitely agree that I want/need to one day listen to > > my MP3s while building my kernel. > > ??? I can listen to MP3s just fine while building kernels, on a not very

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Stefan Traby
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:49:46PM +, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > I think any other action (only replaying on rw mount and presenting > > a broken filesystem on ro) is quite fatal, at least if I think of > > a replay on -remount,rw :) > > Correct. > > > Also, an unconditional hidden replay

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread Daniel Phillips
ludovic fernandez wrote: > Right now I will be interested to run some benchmarks (latency but > also performance) to see how the system is disturbed by beeing > preemptable. I'm little bit lost on this and I don't know where to start. > Do you have any pointers on benchmark suites I could run ? >

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > In a move unanimously hailed by the trade press and industry analysts as > being a sure sign of incipient braindamage, Linus Torvalds (also known as > the "father of Linux" or, more commonly, as "mush-for-brains") decided > that enough is enough, a

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/prerelease-diff > Please don't flood kernel.org though... use a mirror. You'll find the proper 2.4.0 on ftp://ftp.linux.org/pub/linux/linux-2.4/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Jordan Mendelson
dep wrote: > > On Thursday 04 January 2001 07:36 pm, Jordan Mendelson wrote: > > | Go home, get out the epson salts, fill up the tub with hot water > | and just relax. > > right after getting the source posted on kernel.org! Sigh, try: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/prereleas

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Miles Lane
Is there a patch against test12 somewhere? I don't see it. Have some happy downtime, Miles - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread dep
On Thursday 04 January 2001 07:36 pm, Jordan Mendelson wrote: | Go home, get out the epson salts, fill up the tub with hot water | and just relax. right after getting the source posted on kernel.org! -- dep -- bipartisanship: an illogical construct not unlike the idea that if half the people li

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:36:32PM -0800, ludovic fernandez wrote: > Saying that, I definitely agree that I want/need to one day listen to > my MP3s while building my kernel. ??? I can listen to MP3s just fine while building kernels, on a not very powerful K6. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this

Re: And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Jordan Mendelson
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > In a move unanimously hailed by the trade press and industry analysts as > being a sure sign of incipient braindamage, Linus Torvalds (also known as > the "father of Linux" or, more commonly, as "mush-for-brains") decided > that enough is enough, and that things don't ge

Re: Printing to off-line printer in 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread Peter Osterlund
Tim Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:07:19PM +0100, Peter Osterlund wrote: > > > If you do this, you should probably also return -EAGAIN if the printer > > is out of paper, otherwise I would still lose data when the printer > > goes out of paper. Currently it return

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-04 Thread Daniel Phillips
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:27:25PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > > Tux2 is explicitly designed to legitimize pulling the plug as a valid > > way of shutting down. Metadata-only journalling filesystems are not > > designed to be used this way, and even with f

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread ludovic fernandez
Nigel Gamble wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, ludovic fernandez wrote: > > This is not the point I was trying to make . > > So far we are talking about real time behaviour. This is a very >interesting/exciting > > thing and we all agree it's a huge task which goes much more behind > > just havin

2.4.0-pre: usbdevfs: USBDEVFS_BULK failed ...

2001-01-04 Thread Jordan Mendelson
I've been having some problems with the recent 2.4.x kernels with my digital camera. The s10sh program accesses the Canon S20 digital camera using libusb in conjunction with usbfs to download images. Apparently, incorrect data about the size of images is being sent down the line after the first i

Oops 2.2.17 and 2.0.37pre10 - same machine

2001-01-04 Thread John O'Donnell
I am trying to install Slackware Linux. I boot the 2.2.17 from slackware-current series I fdisk /dev/hda1 as 128MB Swap and /dev/hda2 as root. I run mkswap -c -v1 /dev/hda1 - it chugs and finishes... I run swapon /dev/hda1 and I get an oops! Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at vir

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread Nigel Gamble
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, ludovic fernandez wrote: > This is not the point I was trying to make . > So far we are talking about real time behaviour. This is a very interesting/exciting > thing and we all agree it's a huge task which goes much more behind > just having a preemptive kernel. You're ri

Network oddity....

2001-01-04 Thread Rogier Wolff
Hi all, I have a server, and it reports ("netstat -a") tcp0 0 server:sshclient:1022 SYN_RECV This sounds normal right? However there are 79 of these lines in the netstat output. Not normal! A TCP connection is identified by the 12 bytes source IP, dest IP, source port, dest

And oh, btw..

2001-01-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
In a move unanimously hailed by the trade press and industry analysts as being a sure sign of incipient braindamage, Linus Torvalds (also known as the "father of Linux" or, more commonly, as "mush-for-brains") decided that enough is enough, and that things don't get better from having the same pe

Re: [patch] big udelay's in fb drivers (2.4.0-prerelease)

2001-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Once the comments are unweirded, they become completely superfluous. At > which point its best not to have them - when someone next comes along and > changes the delay, it might end up disagreeing with the comment and > causing confusion. Before you remove the comments check with the author and

Re: How to Power off with ACPI/APM?

2001-01-04 Thread Michael D. Crawford
I said: > Looking back in the ACPI kernel config help, it says you can use ACPI > if you also have APM enabled, which I didn't do at first. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel) replied: > That's wrong then, you can't use ACPI and APM at the same time. I think the documentation in the kernel config he

Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-04 Thread Christopher Friesen
Has anyone ever considered including a microsecond-precision monotonically-increasing counter in the kernel? This would allow for easy timing of alarms and such by using absolute values of when the alarm should expire rather than a list of deltas from previous alarms. The thing I have in mind w

Re: linux-2.4.0-prerelease-ac6 compile errors

2001-01-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ignacio Monge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Problem: compile error in linux-2.4.0-prerelease-ac6 --- linux/drivers/char/serial.c.foo Thu Jan 4 17:31:43 2001 +++ linux/drivers/char/serial.c Thu Jan 4 17:32:38 2001 @@ -5184,12 +5184,12 @@ for (pnp_board = pnp_dev

Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: [RFC] ext2_new_block() behaviour

2001-01-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 05:31:12PM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote: > > BTW, what inumber do you want for whiteouts? IIRC, we decided to use > the same entry type as UFS does (14), but I don't remember what was > the decision on inumber. UFS uses 1 for them, is it OK with you? 0 is used for pad

Re: Make errors in 2.4 drivers/acpi, recursive CFLAGS

2001-01-04 Thread Keith Owens
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:19:51 -0600, Michael Elizabeth Chastain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I wonder if Gnu Make 3.78.1 has the same problem? >I know of one bug in 3.78.1 where ... It did. GNU Make version 3.78.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. Built for alpha-redhat-linux-gnu Defin

linux-2.4.0-prerelease-ac6 compile errors

2001-01-04 Thread Ignacio Monge
Problem: compile error in linux-2.4.0-prerelease-ac6 System: Intel Pentium II 233 Mhz 96 Mb RAM Red Hat Linux System 7.0 Glibc-2.2-5 Gcc-2.95.2-12 Output error: [...] ld -m elf_i386 -r -o drm.o tdfx.o drmlib.a make[4]: Saliendo directorio `/usr/src/linux/drive

Re: Printing to off-line printer in 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread David Ford
The only way to _assume_ a printer is online is to attempt a dummy poll for information. Again note that this is a strong assumption as only some new printers return data for a poll, and legacy printers control of the data port are undefined. The poll btw needs to be done in userspace because pr

Re: Make errors in 2.4 drivers/acpi, recursive CFLAGS

2001-01-04 Thread Michael Elizabeth Chastain
I wonder if Gnu Make 3.78.1 has the same problem? I know of one bug in 3.78.1 where $(if ...) statements which have an "else" clause screw up the parsing of the "else" clause. But there shouldn't be any $(if ...) constructs in the kernel Makefiles. I guess we'll either have to find the problem

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0-prerelease: preemptive kernel.

2001-01-04 Thread ludovic fernandez
Roger Larsson wrote: > On Thursday 04 January 2001 09:43, ludovic fernandez wrote: > > > I'm not convinced a full preemptive kernel is something > > interesting mainly due to the context switch cost (actually mmu contex > > switch). > > It will NOT be fully, it will be mostly. > You will only con

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