Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac15

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Walter Hofmann wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Walter Hofmann wrote: > > > I had already two crashes with ac15. The system was still ping-able, but > > login over the network didn't work anymore. > > > > The first crash happened after I started xosview and noticed that the

ide-floppy fails on ApolloPro 133A-based MB

2001-06-20 Thread Jörg Ströttchen
hello, a few days ago I replaced my old MB by a QDI Advance 10F-board (VT82C694X + VT82C686B). Since that time I am running into trouble when writing on my IDE-Floppy (/dev/hdb), read-access is ok, all other IDE-devices are working fine. /var/log/messages reports: cosanostra kernel: hdb:

Re: harddisk support

2001-06-20 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > How can I access more than 16 harddisks? Create the Device File with: cd /dev ; MAKEDEV sdq -or- cd /dev ; mknod sdq b 65 0 mknod sdq1 b 65 1 ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: harddisk support

2001-06-20 Thread Andreas Dilger
Daljeet writes: > In the '/dev' tree, the device file entries for SCSI harddisks ranges from > '/dev/sda' to '/dev/sdp'. If I attach 17 scsi harddisks to a system, the > 17th harddisk is shown as '/dev/sdq' in '/proc/partitions' but there is no > entry in the '/dev' tree. If I try to access

RPC vs Socket

2001-06-20 Thread Blesson Paul
hi all I am in the way of building a new remote file system. Presently I decided to use sockets for remote communication. Lately I understood that RPC is used in coda and nfs file systems(is it so). I want to know the fessibility in using RPC in the new file system.

Re: how to display proxy arp addresses using "ip neigh" from iproute2

2001-06-20 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > 47.129.82.116 * * MPeth0 the asteriks simply show you, that the new linuix kernel will not be able to remeber any mac address for a proxy arp entry. It will always respond with the device' own MAC address. Can't

harddisk support

2001-06-20 Thread mdaljeet
Hi, I do not know whether I should ask this question on this mailing list, but it definitely has to do either with the kernel confiuration or kernel support. In the '/dev' tree, the device file entries for SCSI harddisks ranges from '/dev/sda' to '/dev/sdp'. If I attach 17 scsi harddisks to a

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Dan Kegel
Russell Leighton wrote: > The lack of a good operating system _dependent_ interface > makes running fast hard in Java when you need to do IO... > yes, there is always JNI so you can add a little C to mmap a file or whatever, JDK 1.4 beta comes with a way to memory-map files, and various other

[PATCH] Avoid !__GFP_IO allocations to eat from memory reservations

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
Linus, I just read pre3<->pre4 diff and it seems you missed this patch... here it goes again. In pre3/4, GFP_BUFFER allocations can eat from the "emergency" memory reservations in case try_to_free_pages() fails for those allocations in __alloc_pages(). Here goes the (tested) patch to fix

Re: 2.2 PATCH: check return from copy_*_user in fs/pipe.c

2001-06-20 Thread Zack Weinberg
Linus Torvalds wrote: > If somebody passes in a bad pointer to a system call, you've just > invoced the rule of "the kernel _may_ be nice to you, but the kernel > might just consider you a moron and tell you it worked". > > There is no "lost data" or anything else. You've screwed yourself, and >

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Pete Zaitcev
> Then again JavaOS was an abortion on top of Slowaris. [...] This is a false statemenet, Rob. It was an abortion, all right, but not related to Solaris in any way at all. JavaOS existed in two flavours minimum, which had very little in common. The historically first of them (Luna), was a

Re: aic7xxx oops with 2.4.5-ac13

2001-06-20 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 02:08:17AM +, Trevor Hemsley wrote: Ditto. I am also seeing this oops calling the sg driver for a robotic tape library, and it also seems to happen on 2.4.4. Jeff > Just upgraded from 2.4.3 to 2.4.5-ac13 and get an aiee, killing interrupt > handler on boot as

Re: ip_tables/ipchains

2001-06-20 Thread Pete Toscano
I had a similar problem with this yesterday. Try moving your .config file to a safe place, making mrproper, then moving your .config back and rebuilding. I did this and all was well. HTH, pete On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Ted Gervais wrote: > Wondering something.. > I ran insmod to bring up

Re: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

2001-06-20 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > The JVM is very very bad from a C language point of view. You can convert C > code to it and there have been some very experimental demos of this. However > it is a very non trivial

Re: freeze with 2.4.5-ac16

2001-06-20 Thread Justin Guyett
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > happened again (vt1 and 2 echo but shells are unresponsive, vt3+ don't > > echo) only active process was the program allocating 192mb and writing to > > it, no find this time. > > Can you get the backtrace of this process? the offending process is

RE: Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?)

2001-06-20 Thread David Schwartz
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 03:18:58PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > As I said, you don't want to use one thread for each > > client. You use, say, > > 10 threads for the 16,000 clients. That way, if an occasional client > > ambushes a thread (say by reading a file off an NFS server or > >

Re: freeze with 2.4.5-ac16

2001-06-20 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Justin Guyett wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Justin Guyett wrote: > > > I got it to freeze in console (two generic find / -type f / type d), one > > process allocating and writing 0 to 192mb > > > > machine responds to pings, switching VTs works > > > > (256 physical, 512

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 20:42, D. Stimits wrote: > Rob Landley wrote: > ...snip... > > > The patches-linus-actuall-applies mailing list idea is based on how Linus > > says he works: he appends patches he likes to a file and then calls patch > > -p1 < thatfile after a mail reading session. It

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 11:33, Alexander Viro wrote: > On 20 Jun 2001, Jes Sorensen wrote: > > Not to mention how complex it is to get locking right in an efficient > > manner. Programming threads is not that much different from kernel SMP > > programming, except that in userland you get a core

aic7xxx oops with 2.4.5-ac13

2001-06-20 Thread Trevor Hemsley
Just upgraded from 2.4.3 to 2.4.5-ac13 and get an aiee, killing interrupt handler on boot as aic7xxx.o is loaded. I have an Adaptec 2906 PCI card with a Nikon CoolscanIII and an HP optical drive attached. Works ok on aic7xxx_old. Works with an initial bus reset on 2.4.3. Dies a horrible death

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 18:31, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2001 23:33, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On 20 Jun 2001, Miles Lane wrote: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > > > Yes, he sure knows how to bring Linux to the attention > > of people ;)

Re: Threads FAQ entry incomplete

2001-06-20 Thread Charles Cazabon
J.D. Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 13:42 -0600 20-06-2001, Charles Cazabon wrote: > >Rodrigo Ventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > BTW, I have a question: Can the availability of dual-CPU boards for > > > intel and amd processors, rather then tri- or quadra-CPU boards, be > > >

Re: Threads FAQ entry incomplete

2001-06-20 Thread D. Stimits
"J.D. Bakker" wrote: > > At 13:42 -0600 20-06-2001, Charles Cazabon wrote: > >Rodrigo Ventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > BTW, I have a question: Can the availability of dual-CPU boards for intel > >> and amd processors, rather then tri- or quadra-CPU boards, be explained with > >> the

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread D. Stimits
Rob Landley wrote: ...snip... > The patches-linus-actuall-applies mailing list idea is based on how Linus > says he works: he appends patches he likes to a file and then calls patch -p1 > < thatfile after a mail reading session. It wouldn't be too much work for > somebody to write a toy he could

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Michael Bacarella
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 03:33:45PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > You can scream all you want that "it isn't free software" but the fact > of the matter is that you all scream that and then go do your slides for > your Linux talks in PowerPoint. I think this is an unfair generalization. I'm not

One more ZDNet article with BillG hammering Linux and Open Source.

2001-06-20 Thread Miles Lane
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2777283,00.html (an excerpt) Linux and open source ZDNet -- Can you clarify Microsoft's position on Linux and open source? There has been a lot written about it in the last week. What's Microsoft's objection to open source and Linux? BillG -- I

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 18:07, J . A . Magallon wrote: > On 20010620 Rob Landley wrote: > What do you worry about caches if every bytecode turns into a jump and more > code ? 'cause the jump may be overlappable with extra execution cores in RISC and VLIW? I must admit, I've never

Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout

2001-06-20 Thread Dionysius Wilson Almeida
No..that was pretty much what i saw in the logs. I see wait_for_cmd_done timeout being the only one being repeated in the logs -Wilson ` * Andrey Savochkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > What was the first error message from the driver? > NETDEV WATCHDOG report went before wait_for_cmd_done

Re: IP_ALIAS in 2.4.x gone?

2001-06-20 Thread Erik Schoenfelder
Hi, > "Alan Olsen" == Alan Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alan Olsen> I found the problem... Alan Olsen> IP_ALIAS is no longer needed in the config. [...] Alan Olsen> The documentation does not reflect that the alias Alan Olsen> behaviour is on by default. yes and sorry, you are

Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout

2001-06-20 Thread Andrey Savochkin
What was the first error message from the driver? NETDEV WATCHDOG report went before wait_for_cmd_done timeout and is more important. I wonder if you had some other messages before the watchdog one. Andrey On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 04:31:34PM -0700, Dionysius Wilson Almeida wrote: > And

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac16 kernel panic

2001-06-20 Thread Gav
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 21:33, Gary White (Network Administrator) wrote: > 2.4.5-ac16 patch applied to clean 2.4.5 tree. 2.4.5-ac15 boots > with no problem. > > model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor > > Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 3). > > > PnP: PNP

2.4.5-ac16 -- Still getting unresolved gameport_register_port and gameport_unregister_port symbols in joystick drivers.

2001-06-20 Thread Miles Lane
I have attached my .config file. find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.5-ac16; fi depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5-ac16/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/cs461x.o depmod:

eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout

2001-06-20 Thread Dionysius Wilson Almeida
Hi, I'm running Linux 2.4.5 from kernel.org on my Sony VAIO PCG-FX140 notebook. I'm runing it on Debian Sid. The problem i'm facing is that the ethernet card hangs after every 2 minutes or so and this is consistent. I've to bring down the interface and bring it back up and then it works for

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Dan Podeanu
export IFS=$'\n' > lines=`ls -l | awk '{print "\""$0"\""}'` > for i in $lines > do > echo line:$i > done - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

NFS insanity

2001-06-20 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
I've got an NFS server, version 2.4.4, using reiserfs with trond's NFS patches and the reiser-2.4.4 nfs patch. On a client running 2.4.5 with trond's patches and the corresponding reiser patches, I get the wierdest behaviour: # on client cp libgkcontent.so libgkcontent.so.x diff

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac16 kernel panic

2001-06-20 Thread Gary White (Network Administrator)
Sorry I was so long getting back. I had to step out of the office for a minute. Here is the debug message. Initializing RT netlink socket kernel BUG at ioremap.c:73 invalid operand: > > 2.4.5-ac16 patch applied to clean 2.4.5 tree. 2.4.5-ac15 boots > > with no problem. > > Yes I screwed

[PATCH] disk_index weirdness

2001-06-20 Thread Martin Wilck
Hi, I suggest the follwoing patch to make /proc/stat work as expected in 2.4. I noted that "gkrellm" erroneously reported my disk hdc as hde. the reason is that (a relict from the 2.2 series, I suppose) disk_index adds 2 to the disk number for IDE controller 1. This is IMO wrong, because in 2.4

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Thursday 21 June 2001 00:33, Larry McVoy wrote: > You can scream all you want that "it isn't free software" but the fact > of the matter is that you all scream that and then go do your slides for > your Linux talks in PowerPoint. Bad example Larry, most of us do our talks with MagicPoint.

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Richard Gooch
Larry McVoy writes: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > > > > Of course the URL that goes with that is : > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp > > > > Yes., Microsoft

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 17:20, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > Rob Landley writes: > > My only real gripe with Linux's threads right now [...] is > > that ps and top and such aren't thread aware and don't group them > > right. > > > > I'm told they added some kind of "threadgroup" field to processes

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread William T Wilson
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Larry McVoy wrote: > For the last 10 years, Unix has gotten the OS right and the apps wrong > and Microsoft has gotten the apps right and the OS wrong. Seems like > there is potential for a win-win. I've been hoping for this ever since the rumors of "Microsoft Linux"

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Khalid Aziz
Larry McVoy wrote: > > You can scream all you want that "it isn't free software" but the fact > of the matter is that you all scream that and then go do your slides for > your Linux talks in PowerPoint. At the Linux SuperClusters 2000 Conference, MadDog and I were the the only ones with slides

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Jonathan Morton
>You can scream all you want that "it isn't free software" but the fact >of the matter is that you all scream that and then go do your slides for >your Linux talks in PowerPoint. Or AppleWorks (Mac), in my case. Or, if I wanted to be flashy, I'd make the slides up in CorelXARA (which

Re: Threads FAQ entry incomplete

2001-06-20 Thread J.D. Bakker
At 13:42 -0600 20-06-2001, Charles Cazabon wrote: >Rodrigo Ventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, I have a question: Can the availability of dual-CPU boards for intel >> and amd processors, rather then tri- or quadra-CPU boards, be explained with >> the fact that the performance degrades

Re: Unknown PCI Net Device

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: MYSON Technology Inc: Unknown device 0803 > > Subsystem: MYSON Technology Inc: Unknown device 0803 > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > > Add the PCI vendor ID and device ID (0803) to drivers/net/8139too.c, in > the

Re: Unknown PCI Net Device

2001-06-20 Thread Jeff Garzik
Andreas Dilger wrote: > > Greg writes: > > I picked up a network card that claims to use the "most reliable Realtek > > LAN chip". The big chip is labelled "LAN-8139" so naturally I tried the > > 8139too driver. It doesn't find the device. I'm wondering if maybe it's > > just something in the

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Wayne . Brown
On 06/20/2001 at 05:33:45 PM Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You can scream all you want that "it isn't free software" but the fact >of the matter is that you all scream that and then go do your slides for >your Linux talks in PowerPoint. Not I. The slides for my last meeting were

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 15:53, Martin Dalecki wrote: > Mike Harrold wrote: > > Well the transmeta cpu isn't cheap actually. Any processor's cheap once it's got enough volume. That's an effect not a cause. > And if you talk about > super computing, hmm what about some PowerPC CPU variant -

Re: Unknown PCI Net Device

2001-06-20 Thread Andreas Dilger
Greg writes: > I picked up a network card that claims to use the "most reliable Realtek > LAN chip". The big chip is labelled "LAN-8139" so naturally I tried the > 8139too driver. It doesn't find the device. I'm wondering if maybe it's > just something in the device ID tables. Here's some

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> What would be wrong with Microsoft/Linux? It would be: > > a) the Linux kernel > b) the Microsoft API ported to X > c) Microsoft apps > d) Linux apps Providing they follow the standards, the GPL and work with the community I certainly have no problems with it. Its not really

[QUESTION]: sk->data_ready/state_change callbacks in struct sock

2001-06-20 Thread Bob Matthews
I've got a couple of questions about TCP code that I'm hoping someone could answer. I have a kernel thread with a struct sock waiting for a state_change callback, but the callback is never getting, well, called back. When I setup the socket, I do the following steps sock_create (new_socket,

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Rob Landley
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 15:27, Mike Harrold wrote: > Martin Dalecki wrote:> > > > Blah blah blah. The performance of the Transmeta CPU SUCKS ROCKS. No > > matter > > what they try to make you beleve. A venerable classical desing like > > the Geode outperforms them in any terms. There is simple

Re: Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?)

2001-06-20 Thread Mike Castle
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 03:18:58PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > As I said, you don't want to use one thread for each client. You use, say, > 10 threads for the 16,000 clients. That way, if an occasional client > ambushes a thread (say by reading a file off an NFS server or by using some >

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > > Of course the URL that goes with that is : > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp > > Yes., Microsoft ship GNU C (quite legally) as part

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 23:33, Rik van Riel wrote: > On 20 Jun 2001, Miles Lane wrote: > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > Yes, he sure knows how to bring Linux to the attention > of people ;) Not to mention the GPL, which I can guarantee you, before today my

Re: freeze with 2.4.5-ac16

2001-06-20 Thread Justin Guyett
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Justin Guyett wrote: > I got it to freeze in console (two generic find / -type f / type d), one > process allocating and writing 0 to 192mb > > machine responds to pings, switching VTs works > > (256 physical, 512 swap) happened again (vt1 and 2 echo but shells are

Re: filldir() function

2001-06-20 Thread Jan Kara
Hello, > Please someone tell me what is the function of filldir() function. I > could not understand it from the code. Just give me an outline of what it > will do. This function is used in foo_readdir() (ie. ext2_readdir()). Purpose of this function is to copy given data to buffer supplied

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Olsen
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > > Of course the URL that goes with that is : > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp > > Yes., Microsoft ship GNU C (quite legally) as part of their

Re: [PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> Some, rather different, form will come back. > For now I would prefer throwing out as much as possible. Ok it looks like a 2.5 thing, and something for Al Viro and you to figure out so I'll ignore the change for 2.4 and go away - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: Threads are processes that share more

2001-06-20 Thread ognen
I thought one only refers to LWPs when talking about kernel level threads not user-space ones? Ognen On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Stephen Satchell wrote: > By the way, I'm surprised no one has mentioned that a synonym for "thread" > is "lightweight process". > > Satch -- Ognen Duzlevski Plant

Re: [PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Andries . Brouwer
> Is it worth keeping these so we can build things like nice > /proc files or use them later ? Some, rather different, form will come back. For now I would prefer throwing out as much as possible. Andries - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac16 kernel panic

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> 2.4.5-ac16 patch applied to clean 2.4.5 tree. 2.4.5-ac15 boots > with no problem. Yes I screwed up the bootflag handling > EIP:0010:[] > EFLAGS: 00010286 > eax: 007ec000 ebx: e080 ecx: 3f7ec000 edx: c0101000 Can you build with kernel debug enabled and then say Y to all the

Re: Threads are processes that share more

2001-06-20 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 08:48 PM 6/20/01 +0200, Martin Devera wrote: >BTW is not possible to implement threads as subset of process ? >Like thread list pointed to from task_struct. It'd contain >thread_structs plus another scheduler's data. >The thread could be much smaller than process. > >Probably there is another

Re: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an > idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which > produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of > linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which > would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > Of course the URL that goes with that is : http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp Yes., Microsoft ship GNU C (quite legally) as part of their offerings... Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: ip_tables/ipchains

2001-06-20 Thread Luigi Genoni
try to delete those two modules, and repit depmod -a then try to load the modules. ipchain and ipfwadm modules do have symbols inside that are confusing depmode/modprobe dor dependency of actual netfilter modules. On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Ted Gervais wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Luigi Genoni

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> This is exactly the reason why Transmetians love to > showcase DVD playing and other performance related > stuff - it is where they beat Geode. Geode's performance > is quite adequate for kiosk/POS app and it's a formiddable Geode is jut about capable of MPEG1. The VIA processors are extremely

Re: [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown)

2001-06-20 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 22:58, Tom Sightler wrote: > Quoting Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I originally intended to implement a sliding flush delay based on disk > > load. > > This turned out to be a lot of work for a hard-to-discern benefit. So > > the > > current approach has just

Re: [PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Cox
> showing that register_disk is void when its first argument is NULL. > This allows one to remove some dead code. > Can be applied to 2.4. No behaviour is changed. Is it worth keeping these so we can build things like nice /proc files or use them later ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: IP_ALIAS in 2.4.x gone?

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Olsen
I found the problem... IP_ALIAS is no longer needed in the config. I screwed up the init script configs for it so it did not work as expected. The documentation does not reflect that the alias behaviour is on by default. I will submit a patch for the docs that reflects this so others will

freeze with 2.4.5-ac16

2001-06-20 Thread Justin Guyett
I got it to freeze in console (two generic find / -type f / type d), one process allocating and writing 0 to 192mb machine responds to pings, switching VTs works (256 physical, 512 swap) Mem-info Free pages: 1524kB (0kB High) ( Active: 39586, inactive_dirty: 18590, inactive_clean: 0, free: 381

Any gain to supporting only a single PCMCIA slot?

2001-06-20 Thread steve . snyder
Hello. PCMCIA/Cardbus controllers typically (always?) support 2 slots, and system resources are allocated to support those slots. When you build PCMCIA support into your kernel, you are implicitly asking for both slots to be supported. I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to let the user

RE: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

2001-06-20 Thread Holzrichter, Bruce
>I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an >idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which >produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of >linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which >would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some inquiries

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Rik van Riel
On 20 Jun 2001, Miles Lane wrote: > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html Yes, he sure knows how to bring Linux to the attention of people ;) Rik -- Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release: "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"

Re: [PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Andries . Brouwer
> We will need register_disk(). > Reinserting it into the right places in 2.5 is a unnecessary PITA. (i) today this is dead code (ii) I am slowly restructuring all blockdev code, mainly with the purpose of freeing partition code from the bowels of the various drivers. In the process

is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

2001-06-20 Thread FORT David
I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some inquiries such

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac16 kernel panic

2001-06-20 Thread Gary White (Network Administrator)
2.4.5-ac16 patch applied to clean 2.4.5 tree. 2.4.5-ac15 boots with no problem. model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 3). PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fc2b0 PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f:c2e0,

Re: Linux 2.2.20-pre4

2001-06-20 Thread Eric Lammerts
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > Is it mean now kernel 2.2 with prepatch is (or will be) gcc 3.0 ready ? > > If not what must be fixed/chenged to be ready ? > > It wont build with gcc 3.0 yet. To start with gcc 3.0 will assume it can > insert calls to 'memcpy' I tried it, but didn't run

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Rob Landley writes: > My only real gripe with Linux's threads right now [...] is > that ps and top and such aren't thread aware and don't group them > right. > > I'm told they added some kind of "threadgroup" field to processes > that allows top and ps and such to get the display right. I

Re: ip_tables/ipchains

2001-06-20 Thread Ted Gervais
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Jonathan Brugge wrote: > > > > Wondering something.. > > > > I ran insmod to bring up ip_tables.o and I received the following > >error: > > > > > > > > /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved > > > > symbol nf_unregister_sockopt > > > >

IP_ALIAS in 2.4.x gone?

2001-06-20 Thread Alan Olsen
Has the IP_ALIAS functionality been replaced by something else in the 2.4.x kernels? Documentation/networking/alias.txt seems to imply that it still does, but the string IP_ALIAS does not exist anywhere else in the entire source tree. (Unless you count the default configs for non-i86

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:12:29AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: > When was the last time you wrote a large cross-platform GUI that just > worked on other platforms, without any additional tweaking, after you > developed it on your Linux machine? I'd say that would be the last time I wrote something

RE:Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?)

2001-06-20 Thread David Schwartz
> Nobody is arguing that having more than one thread of execution in an > application is a bad idea. On an SMP machine, having the same number of > processes/threads as there are CPUs is a requirement to get the scaling > if that app is all you are running. That's fine. But on a uniprocessor,

RE: Client receives TCP packets but does not ACK

2001-06-20 Thread David Schwartz
> Btw: can the aplication somehow ask the tcp/ip stack what was > actualy acked? > (ie. how many bytes were acked). No, and you shouldn't want to know. Even if the other end ACKed the data, that doesn't mean that the application on the other end didn't crash. So it won't tell you what

Re: [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown)

2001-06-20 Thread Tom Sightler
Quoting Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I originally intended to implement a sliding flush delay based on disk > load. > This turned out to be a lot of work for a hard-to-discern benefit. So > the > current approach has just two delays: .1 second and whatever the bdflush > > delay is

The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-20 Thread Miles Lane
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Re: ip_tables/ipchains

2001-06-20 Thread Jonathan Brugge
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Ted Gervais wrote: > > > > > Wondering something.. > > > I ran insmod to bring up ip_tables.o and I received the following >error: > > > > > > /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved > > > symbol nf_unregister_sockopt > > >

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Pete Zaitcev
> This [code morphing and binary tranlation] > was set off to provide compensation for the biggest hurdle > of VLIW design - insane code size and partially huge memmory > bus bandwidth designs due to this. (Why do you think the itanim > sucks on integer performance?) First, Merced does not suck

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Cort Dougan
Don't forget the linux-kernel favorite, "Debuggers are for bad programmers". } Here are more from the same basket you obviously got the first quote from: } } } Virtual memory is only for unskilled programmers who don't know how to use } overlays. }

Re: How to compile on one machine and install on another?

2001-06-20 Thread Maciek Nowacki
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 04:55:10PM -0400, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > > Other than making sure you configure it for the box it will eventually run > > on - nope you have it all sorted. If you use modules you'll want to install > > the modules on the target machine

Re: [PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In fs/partitions/check.c we read > > void register_disk(struct gendisk *gdev, kdev_t dev, unsigned minors, > struct block_device_operations *ops, long size) > { > if (!gdev) > return; >

[PATCH] remove null register_disk

2001-06-20 Thread Andries . Brouwer
In fs/partitions/check.c we read void register_disk(struct gendisk *gdev, kdev_t dev, unsigned minors, struct block_device_operations *ops, long size) { if (!gdev) return; grok_partitions(gdev, MINOR(dev)>>gdev->minor_shift, minors, size); } showing that

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac15

2001-06-20 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Walter Hofmann wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Walter Hofmann wrote: > > > I had already two crashes with ac15. The system was still ping-able, but > > login over the network didn't work anymore. > > > > The first crash happened after I started xosview and noticed that the > >

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Martin Dalecki
Mike Harrold wrote: > So what? Crusoe isn't designed for use in supercomputers. It's designed > for use in laptops where the user is running an email reader, a web > browser, a word processor, and where the user couldn't give a cr*p about > performance as long as it isn't noticeable (20% *isn't*

Re: Threads FAQ entry incomplete

2001-06-20 Thread Charles Cazabon
Rodrigo Ventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, I have a question: Can the availability of dual-CPU boards for intel > and amd processors, rather then tri- or quadra-CPU boards, be explained with > the fact that the performance degrades significantly for three or more CPUs? > Or is there a

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac15

2001-06-20 Thread Adam Sampson
Walter Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It hung when I tried to close a browser window after reading the > text in it for quite some time. No swapping was going on. I've just seen this as well (for the first time) with -ac15. I was playing music with madplay at the time, and then did a

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-20 Thread Rok Papež
Hi! It's hard not to reply to this kind of message but there is so much "anti-thread hype" here that someone obviously has to stand up to it. This reply isn't aimed just at Larry but at all the anti-thread-rant people with 0 threads == 0 problems attitude. On Tuesday 19 June 2001 18:09, Larry

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread Mike Harrold
Martin Dalecki wrote:> > Rob Landley wrote: > > > Or if you like the idea of a JIT, think about transmeta writing a code > > morphing layer that takes java bytecodes. Ditch the VM and have the > > processor do it in-cache. > > Blah blah blah. The performance of the Transmeta CPU SUCKS ROCKS.

Unknown PCI Net Device

2001-06-20 Thread Greg Ingram
I picked up a network card that claims to use the "most reliable Realtek LAN chip". The big chip is labelled "LAN-8139" so naturally I tried the 8139too driver. It doesn't find the device. I'm wondering if maybe it's just something in the device ID tables. Here's some info: # lspci -vv

Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java

2001-06-20 Thread William T Wilson
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > However, the very concept of Java encourages not caring about > "performance, system-design or any elegance whatsoever". If you cared > about any of those things you would compile to native code (it exists Native code does not help performance much

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