Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-13 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Trond Myklebust writes: > >>>>> " " == Albert D Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It would not be reasonable to try extending ext2 to 64-bit >> times, but milliseconds might be doable. You'd need 4 bytes to >> support the 3 standard time

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-12 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Trond Myklebust writes: > Relying on the sub-second timing fields is a much more > implementation-specific. It depends on the capabilities of both the > filesystem and the server OS. > Linux and the knfsd server code could easily be modified to provide > such a service, but the problem (as I've

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-12 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Trond Myklebust writes: Relying on the sub-second timing fields is a much more implementation-specific. It depends on the capabilities of both the filesystem and the server OS. Linux and the knfsd server code could easily be modified to provide such a service, but the problem (as I've

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-11 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: >> Over on the freebsd-questions mailing list you can see desperate >> people trying to convert Linux systems over to that other OS to >> escape Linux 2.2.xx NFS. This is kind of serious, you know? > > Shrug. So you want me to make it worse by shipping unproven code > in a way I

Re: [RFC] Wine speedup through kernel module

2000-09-11 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David Howells writes: > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We already handle doing iBCS and Solaris syscalls by trapping int 7 and >> int 0x27 insns and using a dedicated syscall handler - it doesn't go >> anywhere near the original Linux syscall table. > > I was planning on having

Re: [RFC] Wine speedup through kernel module

2000-09-11 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David Howells writes: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We already handle doing iBCS and Solaris syscalls by trapping int 7 and int 0x27 insns and using a dedicated syscall handler - it doesn't go anywhere near the original Linux syscall table. I was planning on having using a

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-11 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: Over on the freebsd-questions mailing list you can see desperate people trying to convert Linux systems over to that other OS to escape Linux 2.2.xx NFS. This is kind of serious, you know? Shrug. So you want me to make it worse by shipping unproven code in a way I can't

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: > From: "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Over on the freebsd-questions mailing list you can see desperate >> people trying to convert Linux systems over to that other OS to >> escape Linux 2.2.xx NFS. This is kind o

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: > [somebody] >> Alan, are the NFS client/server patches EVER going to >> make it into the base kernel? Inquiring minds want to know.. > > I still hope so but there is a maximum sane rate of change and > its important to change stuff piece by piece. 2.2.18pre4 isnt > the right

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: [somebody] sigh.. Alan, are the NFS client/server patches EVER going to make it into the base kernel? Inquiring minds want to know.. I still hope so but there is a maximum sane rate of change and its important to change stuff piece by piece. 2.2.18pre4 isnt the right

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: From: "Albert D. Cahalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Over on the freebsd-questions mailing list you can see desperate people trying to convert Linux systems over to that other OS to escape Linux 2.2.xx NFS. This is kind of serious, you know? So basically the

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Ragnar Hojland Esp writes: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: > > Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-d= > efined > > RFC standards with proprietary formats.=20 > > MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be=

Re: ECN & cisco firewall

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: >From: Ulrich Kiermayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reserved: 6 bits > > Reserved for future use. Must be zero. > > >The point is: 'must be zero' is redefined by rfc2481 (ECN). > > The authors of rfc793 probably, in all honesty, really meant >

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Ragnar Hojland Esp writes: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:10:13PM +0200, Kurt Garloff wrote: Stop making stupid statements like this, please, and comparing well-d= efined RFC standards with proprietary formats.=20 MIME is a way for people that happen to use non 7bit characters to be= able

Re: ECN cisco firewall

2000-09-08 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: From: Ulrich Kiermayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote Reserved: 6 bits Reserved for future use. Must be zero. /quote The point is: 'must be zero' is redefined by rfc2481 (ECN). The authors of rfc793 probably, in all honesty, really meant

Re: [RFC] Wine speedup through kernel module

2000-09-07 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David Howells writes: > I've done an implementation of some of the Win32 "system calls" > in a kernel module in an attempt to speed up Wine. Oh my. How dare you! I like it. :-) > The preliminary benchmarks that I made, while not very real-world > since I don't think I have managed to implement

Re: [RFC] Wine speedup through kernel module

2000-09-07 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David Howells writes: I've done an implementation of some of the Win32 "system calls" in a kernel module in an attempt to speed up Wine. Oh my. How dare you! I like it. :-) The preliminary benchmarks that I made, while not very real-world since I don't think I have managed to implement

Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: > [somebody] >> Excuse me? How the hell do you expect them to "clean up their act" when >> their "dialup" users are the problem? Are you gonna scan 250,000 machines >> to make sure they aren't running SMTP servers? Trap all port 25 traffic? > > FreeServe in the UK have over 3

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Jorge Nerin writes: > Neal H Walfield wrote: >> Starting twelve days ago the load average has increased by one every >> twenty-four hours. Normally, it remains close to 0. At the moment, they >> are at twelve; I imagine that tomorrow, they will be at thirteen: > You may have stuck processes

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Rik van Riel writes: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:16:23AM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: >>> With all the talk about bugs and slowness on a 386/486/586 >>> -- does anyone think those platforms will have multi-T disks >>> hooked up to them? Note: no

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Rik van Riel writes: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:16:23AM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: With all the talk about bugs and slowness on a 386/486/586 -- does anyone think those platforms will have multi-T disks hooked up to them? Note: no "686"

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) = broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Jorge Nerin writes: Neal H Walfield wrote: Starting twelve days ago the load average has increased by one every twenty-four hours. Normally, it remains close to 0. At the moment, they are at twelve; I imagine that tomorrow, they will be at thirteen: You may have stuck processes wich

Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-04 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: [somebody] Excuse me? How the hell do you expect them to "clean up their act" when their "dialup" users are the problem? Are you gonna scan 250,000 machines to make sure they aren't running SMTP servers? Trap all port 25 traffic? FreeServe in the UK have over 3 million

Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-02 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: >> What is the deal here? I have NEVER seen anyboody flatly refuse email >> from me. Are you telling me I have to go into work and use my >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address to talk to Alan? That's asinine. > > When you get as much spam aimed at you as I do because the address >

Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-02 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: What is the deal here? I have NEVER seen anyboody flatly refuse email from me. Are you telling me I have to go into work and use my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address to talk to Alan? That's asinine. When you get as much spam aimed at you as I do because the address is so

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre2

2000-09-01 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: > o Make vfat use the same generation rules as (H. Kawaguchi, > in windows 9xChip Salzenberg) I doubt this is obviously correct. The last time this issue came up, it was discovered that Windows 9x does not use the same

Re: To many Oops

2000-09-01 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
> address 68736170 > address 33312051 > address 3331203d The kernel is using ASCII text as pointers. Convert the above: "pash" "Q 13" "= 13" Try different kernels and different compilers. The hardware is probably OK. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: To many Oops

2000-09-01 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
address 68736170 address 33312051 address 3331203d The kernel is using ASCII text as pointers. Convert the above: "pash" "Q 13" "= 13" Try different kernels and different compilers. The hardware is probably OK. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Robert Greimel writes: >> BTW, /boot/System.map-`uname -r` is the first place in which >> procps looks for the the System.map data. Red Hat and Debian > > Yes, but it is no good if you switch between different kernel > versions as you will get error messages about System.map being > the wrong

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: >> where you overwrite your old kernel image with a new one without >> rebooting instantly). >> >> But is it so much more expensive than a /proc/config.whatever ? > > Use that argument 50 times and your kernel has grown 100K. If I get the same level of benefit 50 times,

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Michael Elizabeth Chastain writes: > I'm beginning to think that installation should copy everyting > (bzImage, System.map, modules) into /lib/modules/. This split > between resident and modules just causes endless hassle. That would be a serious error. Often /boot is a special partition

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Michael Elizabeth Chastain writes: I'm beginning to think that installation should copy everyting (bzImage, System.map, modules) into /lib/modules/release. This split between resident and modules just causes endless hassle. That would be a serious error. Often /boot is a special partition

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: where you overwrite your old kernel image with a new one without rebooting instantly). But is it so much more expensive than a /proc/config.whatever ? Use that argument 50 times and your kernel has grown 100K. If I get the same level of benefit 50 times, wonderful! With

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-08-31 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Robert Greimel writes: BTW, /boot/System.map-`uname -r` is the first place in which procps looks for the the System.map data. Red Hat and Debian Yes, but it is no good if you switch between different kernel versions as you will get error messages about System.map being the wrong version

Re: hfs support for blocksize != 512

2000-08-30 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alexander Viro writes: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Roman Zippel wrote: >> The point is: the thing I like about Linux is its simple interfaces, it's >> the basic idea of unix - keep it simple. That is true for most parts - the >> basic idea is simple and the real complexity is hidden behind it. But >>

Re: [patch] scheduler bugfix, SMP, 2.4.0-test7

2000-08-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: > The problem not FASTCALL, which is a NOP on sparc anyways. The > problem is the fact that people expect the following to work: ... > And it doesn't on Sparc because the flags are stored in the same CPU > register as the current register window. > > Therefore you

Re: SCO: "thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on

2000-08-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alexander Viro writes: > On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: [interaction w/ setuid, close-on-exec, and personality pseudo-roots] > We _have_ this interaction. In case you've missed it, sys_personality() > that really happens to change personality unshares fs_struct. Has t

Re: SCO: thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on

2000-08-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alexander Viro writes: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: [interaction w/ setuid, close-on-exec, and personality pseudo-roots] We _have_ this interaction. In case you've missed it, sys_personality() that really happens to change personality unshares fs_struct. Has to. Rule: you

Re: [patch] scheduler bugfix, SMP, 2.4.0-test7

2000-08-29 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David S. Miller writes: The problem not FASTCALL, which is a NOP on sparc anyways. The problem is the fact that people expect the following to work: ... And it doesn't on Sparc because the flags are stored in the same CPU register as the current register window. Therefore you cannot

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