Re: macro _set_base - "do - while(0)" question

2008-01-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Abdel :) * Abdel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > In file include/asm-i386/system.h, _set_base and _set_limit use an > useless do ... while(0) > > Why is this needed ? Google for "do while swallow semicolon". This looks like an useless and weird construction but it is very useful when it comes

Re: macro _set_base - do - while(0) question

2008-01-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Abdel :) * Abdel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: In file include/asm-i386/system.h, _set_base and _set_limit use an useless do ... while(0) Why is this needed ? Google for do while swallow semicolon. This looks like an useless and weird construction but it is very useful when it comes to

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-12 Thread DervishD
Hi Benny :) * Benny Halevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Using only spaces as DervishD suggested works around that using brute > force by forcing the user to the author's preference which is > legitimate but may not be the most productive way. I admit it. > I think that my

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-12 Thread DervishD
Hi Benny :) * Benny Halevy [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Using only spaces as DervishD suggested works around that using brute force by forcing the user to the author's preference which is legitimate but may not be the most productive way. I admit it. I think that my proposal of using tabs

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-10 Thread DervishD
Bonjour Xavier :) * Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Le samedi 10 novembre 2007 à 13:04 +0100, DervishD a écrit : > > * Benny Halevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > > I would like to hear peoples opinion about the indentation convention > > >

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-10 Thread DervishD
Hi Benny :) * Benny Halevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > I would like to hear peoples opinion about the indentation convention > described below that I personally found the most practical with > several different editors. While I respect you opinion about tabs, I find tab indentation the

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-10 Thread DervishD
Hi Benny :) * Benny Halevy [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I would like to hear peoples opinion about the indentation convention described below that I personally found the most practical with several different editors. While I respect you opinion about tabs, I find tab indentation the most

Re: Coding Style: indenting with tabs vs. spaces

2007-11-10 Thread DervishD
Bonjour Xavier :) * Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Le samedi 10 novembre 2007 à 13:04 +0100, DervishD a écrit : * Benny Halevy [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I would like to hear peoples opinion about the indentation convention described below that I personally found the most

Re: libata PATA status for VIA 8237

2007-10-24 Thread DervishD
Hi Thierry :) * Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > DervishD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm thinking about switching fully to libata in the near future > > (currently I'm using CONFIG_IDE for all my PATA drives, both hard disks > > and DVD recor

libata PATA status for VIA 8237

2007-10-24 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I'm thinking about switching fully to libata in the near future (currently I'm using CONFIG_IDE for all my PATA drives, both hard disks and DVD recorder), and I was wondering if PATA support for VIA8237 was full or not. For what I've googled, it seems that it is usable both for PATA

libata PATA status for VIA 8237

2007-10-24 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I'm thinking about switching fully to libata in the near future (currently I'm using CONFIG_IDE for all my PATA drives, both hard disks and DVD recorder), and I was wondering if PATA support for VIA8237 was full or not. For what I've googled, it seems that it is usable both for PATA

Re: libata PATA status for VIA 8237

2007-10-24 Thread DervishD
Hi Thierry :) * Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: DervishD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm thinking about switching fully to libata in the near future (currently I'm using CONFIG_IDE for all my PATA drives, both hard disks and DVD recorder), and I was wondering if PATA support

Re: AUTO LOGIN BUG

2007-09-05 Thread DervishD
Dear whoever, * Sean Robert McGuffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Dear whoever is in charge of writing fedora core 7, Have you tried FC forums? This list is about the linux kernel, not about distros. The name, "Linux Kernel Mailing List" should have rang a bell (or even two). > The

Re: AUTO LOGIN BUG

2007-09-05 Thread DervishD
Dear whoever, * Sean Robert McGuffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Dear whoever is in charge of writing fedora core 7, Have you tried FC forums? This list is about the linux kernel, not about distros. The name, Linux Kernel Mailing List should have rang a bell (or even two). The auto

Re: cpufreq affects traffic control rates

2007-08-29 Thread DervishD
Hi Stephen :) * Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:51:55 +0200 DervishD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I noticed lately that my traffic control rates were being very > > slow, about 40% less than expected, and final

Re: cpufreq affects traffic control rates

2007-08-29 Thread DervishD
Hi Stephen :) * Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:51:55 +0200 DervishD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed lately that my traffic control rates were being very slow, about 40% less than expected, and finally spotted the problem: cpufreq

cpufreq affects traffic control rates

2007-08-28 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I noticed lately that my traffic control rates were being very slow, about 40% less than expected, and finally spotted the problem: cpufreq. Looks like HTB puts buckets according to the requested rate but assuming that the CPU is running at its default clock or something

cpufreq affects traffic control rates

2007-08-28 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I noticed lately that my traffic control rates were being very slow, about 40% less than expected, and finally spotted the problem: cpufreq. Looks like HTB puts buckets according to the requested rate but assuming that the CPU is running at its default clock or something

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Joerg :) * Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >> It is probably about time that cdparanoia was updated ... > > >I think the same, but given that it works, Monty probably doesn't > >have much motivation to update it. I don't know if the problem resides > >in the cdparanoia

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Douglas :) * Douglas Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >> I don't know if cdparanoia should be fixed, but certainly the > >> warning could be issued only if CONFIG_SCSI_VERBOSE is set. This way you > >> will have the message if something goes wrong and you want more info, > >> but

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Stefan :) * Stefan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > I don't know if cdparanoia should be fixed, but certainly the > > warning could be issued only if CONFIG_SCSI_VERBOSE is set. This way you > > will have the message if something goes wrong and you want more info, > > but in

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Stefan :) * Stefan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I don't know if cdparanoia should be fixed, but certainly the warning could be issued only if CONFIG_SCSI_VERBOSE is set. This way you will have the message if something goes wrong and you want more info, but in cases where

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Douglas :) * Douglas Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I don't know if cdparanoia should be fixed, but certainly the warning could be issued only if CONFIG_SCSI_VERBOSE is set. This way you will have the message if something goes wrong and you want more info, but in cases where

Re: cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-09 Thread DervishD
Hi Joerg :) * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: It is probably about time that cdparanoia was updated ... I think the same, but given that it works, Monty probably doesn't have much motivation to update it. I don't know if the problem resides in the cdparanoia program

cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-08 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I know, this has been treated on the list before (year 2005) but without any real solution I'm aware of. I'm running kernel 2.6.20.14, and I have an ATAPI DVD writer that I use with an IDE-to-USB adapter, so it appears as an SCSI drive to the kernel. Anytime I rip

cdparanoia not setting count and/or reply_len properly

2007-07-08 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I know, this has been treated on the list before (year 2005) but without any real solution I'm aware of. I'm running kernel 2.6.20.14, and I have an ATAPI DVD writer that I use with an IDE-to-USB adapter, so it appears as an SCSI drive to the kernel. Anytime I rip

Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Arjan :) * Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote: > > > > > >What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instea

Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote: > > > >What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor instead > >of the recommended for AMD64, namely the "conservative" governor,

Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote: What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor, since I will be switching between those two frequencies. I

Re: Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Arjan :) * Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Jul 6 2007 22:50, DervishD wrote: What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead of the recommended for AMD64, namely the conservative governor

Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I have an AMD Athlon64, and according to "powernow-k8", it has to fid's, for 1000MHz and 1800MHz. I don't know if this is correct or if I should enable ACPI to have more fid's, but my question is not about this. What I want to know is if I can choose "ondemand" governor

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Bodo :) * Bodo Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, DervishD wrote: > > * Bodo Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > > > Standardisation is good, but autotools (as they are used) usurally isn't. > > > > Usually, by p

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Mike :) * Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Friday 06 July 2007, DervishD wrote: > > I really like the spirit of CMake. Of course, it adds a dependency, > > but IMHO is much safer to depend on CMake being installed (or Perl, for > > that matter

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Nix :) * Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On 5 Jul 2007, DervishD spake thusly: > >> Configuring the build of an autotools program is harder than nescensary; > >> if it used a config file, you could easily save it somewhere while adding > >> comments

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Nix :) * Nix [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On 5 Jul 2007, DervishD spake thusly: Configuring the build of an autotools program is harder than nescensary; if it used a config file, you could easily save it somewhere while adding comments on how and why you did *that* choice, and you

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Mike :) * Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Friday 06 July 2007, DervishD wrote: I really like the spirit of CMake. Of course, it adds a dependency, but IMHO is much safer to depend on CMake being installed (or Perl, for that matter) than to depend on a shell. Every

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi Bodo :) * Bodo Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, DervishD wrote: * Bodo Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Standardisation is good, but autotools (as they are used) usurally isn't. Usually, by picking other's project configure.in and tweak blindly

Question about cpufreq governors

2007-07-06 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I have an AMD Athlon64, and according to powernow-k8, it has to fid's, for 1000MHz and 1800MHz. I don't know if this is correct or if I should enable ACPI to have more fid's, but my question is not about this. What I want to know is if I can choose ondemand governor instead

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-05 Thread DervishD
Hi Bodo :) * Bodo Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4 Jul 2007, DervishD stated: > >> Anyway, if you don't like mobs or you just don't want to try it, > >> that's fine, but please don't use autotools, it d

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-05 Thread DervishD
Hi Bodo :) * Bodo Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Nix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Jul 2007, DervishD stated: Anyway, if you don't like mobs or you just don't want to try it, that's fine, but please don't use autotools, it doesn't make much sense for a linux only project, since

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-04 Thread DervishD
Hi Karel :) * Karel Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system > supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS, > SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file If you want to have configurable

Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

2007-07-04 Thread DervishD
Hi Karel :) * Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS, SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file If you want to have configurable

Re: USB card reader and HAL

2007-06-29 Thread DervishD
Hi Kay :) * Kay Sievers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On 6/28/07, DervishD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >When I insert a card in the reader, it is not detected, no udev > >event is generated and I have to do things like "hdparm -z /dev/sda" to > &

Re: USB card reader and HAL

2007-06-29 Thread DervishD
Hi Kay :) * Kay Sievers [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On 6/28/07, DervishD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I insert a card in the reader, it is not detected, no udev event is generated and I have to do things like hdparm -z /dev/sda to probe the card. Moreover, I have to do the same when

USB card reader and HAL

2007-06-28 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I have a new card reader (internal) but I've tested with my old one too: the same happens. I have a do-it-yourself linux box, self compiled kernel 2.6.19.5 (by now). When I insert a card in the reader, it is not detected, no udev event is generated and I have to do things

USB card reader and HAL

2007-06-28 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I have a new card reader (internal) but I've tested with my old one too: the same happens. I have a do-it-yourself linux box, self compiled kernel 2.6.19.5 (by now). When I insert a card in the reader, it is not detected, no udev event is generated and I have to do things

Re: Problems with fb console [was Re: 2.6.12-rc4-mm2]

2007-06-27 Thread DervishD
Hi J.A. :) * J.A. Magallón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > kernel /boot/vmlinuz video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap vga=0x31A ro root=/dev/sdc1 > > (tried both with hex and decimal). Try "vga=0x031A". I vaguely remember I had a similar problem and IIRC that's how I solved it. Anyway, you can always

Re: Problems with fb console [was Re: 2.6.12-rc4-mm2]

2007-06-27 Thread DervishD
Hi J.A. :) * J.A. Magallón [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: kernel /boot/vmlinuz video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap vga=0x31A ro root=/dev/sdc1 (tried both with hex and decimal). Try vga=0x031A. I vaguely remember I had a similar problem and IIRC that's how I solved it. Anyway, you can always try

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Randy :) * Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:33:59 +0200 DervishD wrote: > > * Jan-Benedict Glaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > > On Tue, 2007-06-26 12:16:39 +0200, DervishD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > &

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Arne :) * Arne Georg Gleditsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > OTOH, you also didn't supply a patch. If you do this, I'll be > > glad to consider it. If I can read it, that is. > > I like bash as much as the next guy, but (to my surprise)

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan-Benedict Glaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Tue, 2007-06-26 12:16:39 +0200, DervishD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given that it happens too with "ldd", it really *is* that hard. I > > don't know why still people think that /bin/sh

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Matthieu :) * Matthieu CASTET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:43:03 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > OTOH, you also didn't supply a patch. If you do this, I'll be glad to > > consider it. If I can read it, that is. > > "s|/bin/sh|/bin/bash" is so hard to do ?

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Matthieu :) * Matthieu CASTET [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:43:03 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: OTOH, you also didn't supply a patch. If you do this, I'll be glad to consider it. If I can read it, that is. s|/bin/sh|/bin/bash is so hard to do ? Given that

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Tue, 2007-06-26 12:16:39 +0200, DervishD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that it happens too with ldd, it really *is* that hard. I don't know why still people think that /bin/sh is always /bin/bash. If they want/need bash

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Arne :) * Arne Georg Gleditsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OTOH, you also didn't supply a patch. If you do this, I'll be glad to consider it. If I can read it, that is. I like bash as much as the next guy, but (to my surprise) /bin/sh on my

Re: NAK (bashizm in the /bin/sh script): [PATCH v3] doc/oops-tracing: add Code: decode info

2007-06-26 Thread DervishD
Hi Randy :) * Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:33:59 +0200 DervishD wrote: * Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Tue, 2007-06-26 12:16:39 +0200, DervishD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that it happens too with ldd, it really *is* that hard

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-18 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Fri, 15 June 2007 18:22:53 +0200, DervishD wrote: > > A pity that my digital camera won't want to use LogFS :(( > > That's quite ok, actually. FAT is perfect for digital cameras. All the > unix file permi

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-18 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Fri, 15 June 2007 18:22:53 +0200, DervishD wrote: A pity that my digital camera won't want to use LogFS :(( That's quite ok, actually. FAT is perfect for digital cameras. All the unix file permissions, different owners/groups

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Fri, 15 June 2007 00:46:46 +0200, DervishD wrote: > > When do you think it will be included mainstream? > > I am horrible at predictions, doubly so when concerning the future. > > Several people believ

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Thu, 14 June 2007 22:20:47 +0200, DervishD wrote: > > I'm with you in that. So stop emailing and go working on it XD > > :) No. Seriously. Go! XDD > > Now seriously, I will take a look

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Thu, 14 June 2007 22:17:14 +0200, DervishD wrote: > > * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > > 2. Wear leveling > > > > > > Wear leveling happens implicitly by picking a differ

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Thu, 14 June 2007 22:17:14 +0200, DervishD wrote: * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: 2. Wear leveling Wear leveling happens implicitly by picking a different physical block from the spares on each write. However, some

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Thu, 14 June 2007 22:20:47 +0200, DervishD wrote: I'm with you in that. So stop emailing and go working on it XD :) No. Seriously. Go! XDD Now seriously, I will take a look at LogFS from time to time, and if you

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-15 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Fri, 15 June 2007 00:46:46 +0200, DervishD wrote: When do you think it will be included mainstream? I am horrible at predictions, doubly so when concerning the future. Several people believe it is good enough for -mm inclusion

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Thu, 14 June 2007 19:19:53 +0200, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > > Cool, does it mean we have the first Linux filesystem supporting > > compression, which can be used on USB-sticks (I don't count old > > ext2+compression patches)? :) >

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Any method I can imagine to offer good wear leveling will result in > either a filesystem or at least a simplified one-file-system with the > only file being the "block device" exported outward. So naturally my > answer to the problem is

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > So let us look at the problems and how they interact with filesystems. > > 1. Write overhead > > If a filesystem only writes a small amount of data, typically 512 or > 4096 bytes, smartmedia has to erase and write a full block. Most >

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Knutar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 16:48, DervishD wrote: > > But anyway the memory should last long. Even cheap flash memories > > with poor wear leveling (if any at all) usually long last. Given > > that I won't be

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Knutar [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Wednesday 13 June 2007 16:48, DervishD wrote: But anyway the memory should last long. Even cheap flash memories with poor wear leveling (if any at all) usually long last. Given that I won't be writing continuously, wear shouldn't

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: So let us look at the problems and how they interact with filesystems. 1. Write overhead If a filesystem only writes a small amount of data, typically 512 or 4096 bytes, smartmedia has to erase and write a full block. Most flashes

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: Any method I can imagine to offer good wear leveling will result in either a filesystem or at least a simplified one-file-system with the only file being the block device exported outward. So naturally my answer to the problem is called

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-14 Thread DervishD
Hi Jörn :) * Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Thu, 14 June 2007 19:19:53 +0200, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: Cool, does it mean we have the first Linux filesystem supporting compression, which can be used on USB-sticks (I don't count old ext2+compression patches)? :) Indeed it

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Philipp :)) * Ph. Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > > I was just wondering if, apart from the excessive wear, there were > > other reasons. One of the reasons I would like to use a good filesystem > > for a pendrive is to be able to store file metadata (UID, GID, mode, > > etc.)

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
* Juergen Beisert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Monday 11 June 2007 19:42, DervishD wrote: > > I know about cheap pendrives that you cannot format even with FAT32, only > > with FAT16. > > I'm not sure if the price was the reason that they failed with differen

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Kevin :) > >I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB > >pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any > >device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device > >has a > >good quality flash memory with wear leveling and the

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Bernd :) * Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > All of the posts fail to address the question here: what is the > > correct file system, or does one exist yet, for wear leveling flash > > storage. JFFS2 and logfs are nice for MTD, but

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Kevin :) I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has a good quality flash memory with wear leveling and the like... My

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Bernd :) * Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: All of the posts fail to address the question here: what is the correct file system, or does one exist yet, for wear leveling flash storage. JFFS2 and logfs are nice for MTD, but for better

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
* Juergen Beisert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Monday 11 June 2007 19:42, DervishD wrote: I know about cheap pendrives that you cannot format even with FAT32, only with FAT16. I'm not sure if the price was the reason that they failed with different filesystems. Some kind of wear leveling

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-13 Thread DervishD
Hi Philipp :)) * Ph. Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I was just wondering if, apart from the excessive wear, there were other reasons. One of the reasons I would like to use a good filesystem for a pendrive is to be able to store file metadata (UID, GID, mode, etc.) properly, for

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi Alan :) * alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, DervishD wrote: > > I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB > >pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any > >device whose storage i

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi Eduard :) * Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB > >pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any > >device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has > >a good

ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has a good quality flash memory with wear leveling and the like... Thanks a

ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi all :) I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has a good quality flash memory with wear leveling and the like... Thanks a

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi Eduard :) * Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has a good quality

Re: ext2 on flash memory

2007-06-11 Thread DervishD
Hi Alan :) * alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, DervishD wrote: I was wondering: is there any reason not to use ext2 on an USB pendrive? Really my question is not only about USB pendrives, but any device whose storage is flash based. Let's assume that the device has

radeonfb problem in 2.6.19.5

2007-06-10 Thread DervishD
Hi all :)) If I enable CONFIG_FB + CONFIG_FB_RADEON + CONFIG_DRM + CONFIG_DRM_RADEON, my system hangs badly as soon as I start X Window System (namely X.Org 7.2, although it happens in older versions too). I'm not completely sure about the hanging: the system may not be hung, but I

radeonfb problem in 2.6.19.5

2007-06-10 Thread DervishD
Hi all :)) If I enable CONFIG_FB + CONFIG_FB_RADEON + CONFIG_DRM + CONFIG_DRM_RADEON, my system hangs badly as soon as I start X Window System (namely X.Org 7.2, although it happens in older versions too). I'm not completely sure about the hanging: the system may not be hung, but I

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Jun 2 2007 09:58, DervishD wrote: > > > > * H. Peter Anvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >> Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> > (1) I can do <~> just fine on vt > >> > (2) I

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi H. Peter :) * H. Peter Anvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > (1) I can do <~> just fine on vt > > (2) I can do <ö> just fine on vt too > > (3) And copy+paste them both using GPM too, again w/o probs > > Both of those are in the 0-255 range, though. I thought the

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Jun 1 2007 16:20, DervishD wrote: > > > >This said, I know that the console will give me no problems > >regarding character representantion (heck, I'm pretty sure that I will > >be able to use e

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Ken :) * Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:20:58PM +0200, DervishD wrote: > > Will the console work as it works now if I can live with latin1 > > accented characters only? Is there any terminal emulator *for the > > consol

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Alexander :) * Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >The switch is possible. You could try the latest development LFS LiveCD > >(http://ums.usu.ru/~patrakov/test/lfslivecd-x86-6.3-pre2-r1897.iso) and > >see if it works for you (be sure to CC: me if you post any feedback).

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Alexander :) * Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > >I have a do-it-yourself Linux box, and I'm planning to move to UTF8 > >(currently I'm using es_ES locale, with latin1 encoding). One of my main > >concerns (apart from programs with little or no utf8 support, which I >

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Éric :) * Éric Piel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dixit: > 06/01/2007 04:20 PM, DervishD wrote/a écrit: > >Will the console work as it works now if I can live with latin1 > >accented characters only? > Just tested here, it _seems_ to work right on the console wi

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Éric :) * Éric Piel [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: 06/01/2007 04:20 PM, DervishD wrote/a écrit: Will the console work as it works now if I can live with latin1 accented characters only? Just tested here, it _seems_ to work right on the console with Spanish and French accentuated

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Alexander :) * Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: I have a do-it-yourself Linux box, and I'm planning to move to UTF8 (currently I'm using es_ES locale, with latin1 encoding). One of my main concerns (apart from programs with little or no utf8 support, which I will

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Alexander :) * Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: The switch is possible. You could try the latest development LFS LiveCD (http://ums.usu.ru/~patrakov/test/lfslivecd-x86-6.3-pre2-r1897.iso) and see if it works for you (be sure to CC: me if you post any feedback). I was

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Ken :) * Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:20:58PM +0200, DervishD wrote: Will the console work as it works now if I can live with latin1 accented characters only? Is there any terminal emulator *for the console*, not for X, that handles utf8

Re: Kernel utf-8 handling

2007-06-02 Thread DervishD
Hi Jan :) * Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: On Jun 1 2007 16:20, DervishD wrote: This said, I know that the console will give me no problems regarding character representantion (heck, I'm pretty sure that I will be able to use even the same font I'm using right now

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