Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: Also, I suspect that BKCVS actually bothers to get more details out of a BK tree than I cared about. People have pestered Larry about it, so BKCVS exports a lot of the nitty-gritty (per-file comments etc) that just doesn't actually _matter_, but

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: Yes. Per-file history is expensive in git, because if the way it is indexed. Things are indexed by tree and by changeset, and there are no per-file indexes. You could create per-file _caches_ (*) on top of git if you wanted to make it

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Eric D. Mudama wrote: For example bk does something like this: A1 - A2 - A3 - BM \- B1 - B2 --^ and instead of creating the merge changeset, one could merge them like this: A1 - A2 - A3 - B1 - B2 This results in a

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Tupshin Harper wrote: > > A1 -> A2 -> A3 -> B1 -> B2 > > > > This results in a simpler repository, which is more scalable and which is > > easier for users to work with (e.g. binary bug search). > > The disadvantage would be it will cause more minor conflicts, when

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I really disliked that in BitKeeper too originally. I argued with Larry > about it, but Larry (correctly, I believe) argued that efficient and > reliable distribution really requires the concept of "history is > immutable". It makes replication

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: I really disliked that in BitKeeper too originally. I argued with Larry about it, but Larry (correctly, I believe) argued that efficient and reliable distribution really requires the concept of history is immutable. It makes replication much

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Tupshin Harper wrote: A1 - A2 - A3 - B1 - B2 This results in a simpler repository, which is more scalable and which is easier for users to work with (e.g. binary bug search). The disadvantage would be it will cause more minor conflicts, when changes are

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Dave Hansen wrote: > > Why is this choice needed at all? Why would one choose SPARSEMEM over > > DISCONTIGMEM? > > For now, it's only so people can test either one, and we don't have to > try to toss DICONTIGMEM out of the kernel in fell swoop. When the > memory

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Dave Hansen wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 22:58 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > Dave Hansen wrote: > > > --- memhotplug/mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig 2005-04-04 09:04:48.0 > > > -0700 > > > +++ memhotplug-dave/mm/Kconfig

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, Dave Hansen wrote: > diff -puN mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig mm/Kconfig > --- memhotplug/mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig 2005-04-04 09:04:48.0 > -0700 > +++ memhotplug-dave/mm/Kconfig2005-04-04 10:15:23.0 -0700 > @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ > +choice > + prompt "Memory model" > +

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, Dave Hansen wrote: diff -puN mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig mm/Kconfig --- memhotplug/mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig 2005-04-04 09:04:48.0 -0700 +++ memhotplug-dave/mm/Kconfig2005-04-04 10:15:23.0 -0700 @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +choice + prompt Memory model +

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Dave Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 22:58 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: --- memhotplug/mm/Kconfig~A6-mm-Kconfig 2005-04-04 09:04:48.0 -0700 +++ memhotplug-dave/mm/Kconfig2005-04-04 10:15:23.0 -0700 @@ -0,0 +1,25

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Dave Hansen wrote: Why is this choice needed at all? Why would one choose SPARSEMEM over DISCONTIGMEM? For now, it's only so people can test either one, and we don't have to try to toss DICONTIGMEM out of the kernel in fell swoop. When the memory hotplug

Re: Bug with multiple help messages, the last one is shown

2005-03-22 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Blaisorblade wrote: > I've verified multiple times that if we have a situation like this > > bool A > depends on TRUE > help > Bla bla1 > > and > > bool A > depends on FALSE > help > Bla bla2 > > even if the first option is the displayed one, the help text used

Re: [patch 1/1] kconfig: trivial cleanup

2005-03-22 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Replace a menu_add_prop mimicking menu_add_prompt with the latter. > > Signed-off-by: Paolo 'Blaisorblade' Giarrusso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- > > linux-2.6.11-paolo/scripts/kconfig/zconf.y |2 +- > 1 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 1

Re: [patch 1/1] kconfig: trivial cleanup

2005-03-22 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replace a menu_add_prop mimicking menu_add_prompt with the latter. Signed-off-by: Paolo 'Blaisorblade' Giarrusso [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- linux-2.6.11-paolo/scripts/kconfig/zconf.y |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

Re: Bug with multiple help messages, the last one is shown

2005-03-22 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Blaisorblade wrote: I've verified multiple times that if we have a situation like this bool A depends on TRUE help Bla bla1 and bool A depends on FALSE help Bla bla2 even if the first option is the displayed one, the help text used is the one for

Re: Serious problems with HFS+

2005-03-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Matt Mackall wrote: > I've noticed a few problems with HFS+ support in recent kernels on > another user's machine running Ubuntu (Warty) running > 2.6.8.1-3-powerpc. I'm not in a position to extensively test or fix > either of these problem because of the fs tools

Re: Serious problems with HFS+

2005-03-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Matt Mackall wrote: I've noticed a few problems with HFS+ support in recent kernels on another user's machine running Ubuntu (Warty) running 2.6.8.1-3-powerpc. I'm not in a position to extensively test or fix either of these problem because of the fs tools situation

Re: Pty is losing bytes

2005-02-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So I'd still worry whether that added -1 actually fixes the bug, or just > means that a off-by-one has to now be off-by-two to be noticeable.. You're right, even if one just writes 4095 bytes, it will also drop tty->read_cnt characters later.

Re: Pty is losing bytes

2005-02-16 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: So I'd still worry whether that added -1 actually fixes the bug, or just means that a off-by-one has to now be off-by-two to be noticeable.. You're right, even if one just writes 4095 bytes, it will also drop tty-read_cnt characters later.

Re: Pty is losing bytes

2005-02-15 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > I've also seen more than one byte missing. For example when sending a big > > chunk of bytes down the pty via an Emacs *shell* buffer up to 16 bytes are > > missing somewhere in the middle. > > If it's NTTY (and I'm pretty certain it is - the

Re: Pty is losing bytes

2005-02-15 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: I've also seen more than one byte missing. For example when sending a big chunk of bytes down the pty via an Emacs *shell* buffer up to 16 bytes are missing somewhere in the middle. If it's NTTY (and I'm pretty certain it is - the generic

Re: [PATCH] make ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR depend on ACPI

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Len Brown wrote: > Re: ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR depending on ACPI or ACPI_INTERPRETER -- either > are fine. Note that a patch that fixes this and a little more is waiting in -mm and Sam's tree. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: make menuconfig

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Nick Warne wrote: > So I can ignore the debug prints? Yes. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read

Re: make menuconfig

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Nick Warne wrote: > Are the optimize && ? lines normal? They are only debug prints, but I'm quite sure they are fixed in recent versions. > This is from a current tree that has an uptime of > 50 days Could you specify "current tree"? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe

Re: make menuconfig

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Nick Warne wrote: Are the optimize? lines normal? They are only debug prints, but I'm quite sure they are fixed in recent versions. This is from a current tree that has an uptime of 50 days Could you specify current tree? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from

Re: make menuconfig

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Nick Warne wrote: So I can ignore the debug prints? Yes. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the

Re: [PATCH] make ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR depend on ACPI

2005-02-14 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Len Brown wrote: Re: ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR depending on ACPI or ACPI_INTERPRETER -- either are fine. Note that a patch that fixes this and a little more is waiting in -mm and Sam's tree. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-10 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > This problem is nowhere near as hard as you are making it out to be > but it is hard. But it's not that bad, we do this every time we do > a CVS import, we have to intuit the changeset boundaries themselves, > which is actually harder than what you

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-10 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: This problem is nowhere near as hard as you are making it out to be but it is hard. But it's not that bad, we do this every time we do a CVS import, we have to intuit the changeset boundaries themselves, which is actually harder than what you are

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: (I just sent a similiar mail in private and didn't immediately realize it didn't went to lkml, so sorry, who gets it twice.) > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:13:48PM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > I think what people want here is the tree structure

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: > Larry has said, write up a proposal for changes you want in bk. Send > it to him for a quote. Come up with the cash and he will do the work. Here is a simple one: restore the parent information in the gnupatch option as they were about a year ago

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: Larry, it's interesting how you try to distract from the main problem (which you don't mention with a single word) and instead continues to badmouth me. Let's take a look. > Short version: let's violate a license. Wrong, if I wanted to violate the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: Larry, it's interesting how you try to distract from the main problem (which you don't mention with a single word) and instead continues to badmouth me. Let's take a look. Short version: let's violate a license. Wrong, if I wanted to violate the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: Larry has said, write up a proposal for changes you want in bk. Send it to him for a quote. Come up with the cash and he will do the work. Here is a simple one: restore the parent information in the gnupatch option as they were about a year ago

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: (I just sent a similiar mail in private and didn't immediately realize it didn't went to lkml, so sorry, who gets it twice.) On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:13:48PM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote: I think what people want here is the tree structure

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: > Write up a proposal of what you need. Send it to Larry and ask for a > quote. Larry will probably even help you fill in things you missed in > the proposal. Come to an agreement on terms for the proposal. Raise > the cash, send it to Larry, wait for the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > Nice, Roman. All I need is a cooperating third party who is willing to > give me your code under a different (albeit invalid) license. Short version: Bullshit. Long version: See previous mails. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: > Larry has said he will do the work you want if you pay him. Usually I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt, but in this case I'd prefer to know exactly, what I would get for the money. But as I said by now I know enough about this that I can do

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > I don't know how many years it was before people decided to > give up on the emacs vs. vi wars, but can we please put a more hasty > end to the bk license flamewars? Many thanks, It's not really the same, if it would be just about personal

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I think you are dreaming. You've gone from wanting enough information > > > to supposedly debug your source tree to being explicit about wanting to > > > recreate the entire BK history in a different system. The former is a > > > reasonable

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why should I pay for something, I could easily do myself in less time? > > Why does the phrase "Shut up and code..." suddenly wander through my mind??? You didn't really read what I explained in detail, didn't you? bye, Roman - To

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > I think you are dreaming. You've gone from wanting enough information > to supposedly debug your source tree to being explicit about wanting to > recreate the entire BK history in a different system. The former is a > reasonable request, I suppose,

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: > Roman, if you want this so bad why don't you just pay Larry for the > three month's work? Why should I pay for something, I could easily do myself in less time? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > [Larry continues to pull numbers out of his arse.] Out of sympathy to Al I cut the crap short. If you (or anyone else) really want to know, contact me privately. The 85% number is of secondary interest only anyway, my (undisputed) argumentation

Re: [PATCH] Makefiles are not built using a Fortran compiler

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > David Holland pointed out that Make has a lot of implicit suffix rules > built in and you can disable them by setting ".SUFFIXES:". As an > example, checking the debugging information shows we no longer try to > compile anything from a '.f'

Re: [PATCH] Makefiles are not built using a Fortran compiler

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Matthew Wilcox wrote: David Holland pointed out that Make has a lot of implicit suffix rules built in and you can disable them by setting .SUFFIXES:. As an example, checking the debugging information shows we no longer try to compile anything from a '.f' suffix.

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: [Larry continues to pull numbers out of his arse.] Out of sympathy to Al I cut the crap short. If you (or anyone else) really want to know, contact me privately. The 85% number is of secondary interest only anyway, my (undisputed) argumentation

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: Roman, if you want this so bad why don't you just pay Larry for the three month's work? Why should I pay for something, I could easily do myself in less time? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: I think you are dreaming. You've gone from wanting enough information to supposedly debug your source tree to being explicit about wanting to recreate the entire BK history in a different system. The former is a reasonable request, I suppose, but

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should I pay for something, I could easily do myself in less time? Why does the phrase Shut up and code... suddenly wander through my mind??? You didn't really read what I explained in detail, didn't you? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: I think you are dreaming. You've gone from wanting enough information to supposedly debug your source tree to being explicit about wanting to recreate the entire BK history in a different system. The former is a reasonable request, I

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Theodore Ts'o wrote: I don't know how many years it was before people decided to give up on the emacs vs. vi wars, but can we please put a more hasty end to the bk license flamewars? Many thanks, It's not really the same, if it would be just about personal

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: Larry has said he will do the work you want if you pay him. Usually I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt, but in this case I'd prefer to know exactly, what I would get for the money. But as I said by now I know enough about this that I can do

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: Nice, Roman. All I need is a cooperating third party who is willing to give me your code under a different (albeit invalid) license. Short version: Bullshit. Long version: See previous mails. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-08 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: Write up a proposal of what you need. Send it to Larry and ask for a quote. Larry will probably even help you fill in things you missed in the proposal. Come to an agreement on terms for the proposal. Raise the cash, send it to Larry, wait for the

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > > $ find -name \*,v -a ! -path ./BitKeeper\* -a ! -name ChangeSet,v | xargs > > rlog | egrep '\(Logical change 1.[0-9]+\)' | wc -l > > 187576 > > Bzzt. You forgot all the intial deltas which are not marked with the > logical change comment. And

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > > CVS BitKeeper [*] > > > > > Deltas 235,956 280,212 > > You need to rethink your math, you are way off. I'll explain it so that > the rest of the people can see this is just pure FUD. > > To make

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: CVS BitKeeper [*] Deltas 235,956 280,212 You need to rethink your math, you are way off. I'll explain it so that the rest of the people can see this is just pure FUD. To make sure this was

Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto

2005-02-06 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: $ find -name \*,v -a ! -path ./BitKeeper\* -a ! -name ChangeSet,v | xargs rlog | egrep '\(Logical change 1.[0-9]+\)' | wc -l 187576 Bzzt. You forgot all the intial deltas which are not marked with the logical change comment. And just to

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-02-04 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > The "generic input layer" submenu is comparable to SCSI or ALSA and > has similar menu structure with userland interfaces on top and drivers > below them. Hardware ports (serio, gameport) "live" outside of generic > input layer and are shown there

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-02-04 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > When I go into a menu I explore option and submenus from top to bottom. > > So I will see PS/2 or serial, and will go there and select what I need. > > Then I will see that generic input layer is also needed for keyboard > > and go there. > > >

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-02-04 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: When I go into a menu I explore option and submenus from top to bottom. So I will see PS/2 or serial, and will go there and select what I need. Then I will see that generic input layer is also needed for keyboard and go there. If generic

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-02-04 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: The generic input layer submenu is comparable to SCSI or ALSA and has similar menu structure with userland interfaces on top and drivers below them. Hardware ports (serio, gameport) live outside of generic input layer and are shown there so they

Re: Sabotaged PaXtest (was: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer)

2005-02-03 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Peter Busser wrote: > - What happens when you run existing commercial applications which have not > been compiled using GCC. >From http://pax.grsecurity.net/docs/pax.txt: The goal of the PaX project is to research various defense mechanisms against the

Re: Sabotaged PaXtest (was: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer)

2005-02-03 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Peter Busser wrote: - What happens when you run existing commercial applications which have not been compiled using GCC. From http://pax.grsecurity.net/docs/pax.txt: The goal of the PaX project is to research various defense mechanisms against the exploitation

Re: [PATCH] relayfs redux, part 2

2005-01-31 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Tom Zanussi wrote: > +static inline int rchan_create_file(const char *chanpath, > + struct dentry **dentry, > + struct rchan_buf *data) > +{ > + int err; > + const char * fname; > + struct dentry

Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm2

2005-01-31 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Why not just let XFS_FS select EXPORTFS directly: > > > > config XFS_FS > > select EXPORTFS if NFSD > > This has the wrong semantics: > With NFSD=m and XFS_FS=y it only sets EXPORTFS=m. This should do it then: config XFS_FS select

Re: [PATCH 7/8] Kconfig: cleanup sound menu

2005-01-31 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > Index: linux-2.6.11/sound/core/Kconfig > > === > > --- linux-2.6.11.orig/sound/core/Kconfig2005-01-29 22:50:43.345956362 > > +0100 > > +++ linux-2.6.11/sound/core/Kconfig

Re: [PATCH] relayfs redux, part 2

2005-01-31 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Tom Zanussi wrote: +static inline int rchan_create_file(const char *chanpath, + struct dentry **dentry, + struct rchan_buf *data) +{ + int err; + const char * fname; + struct dentry

Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm2

2005-01-30 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > WANT_EXPORTFS gets selected by NFSD. > > EXPORTFS is usually WANT_EXPORTFS, but if WANT_EXPORTFS=m and > XFS_WANT_EXPORT=y, then EXPORTFS=y. > > Since XFS_WANT_EXPORT itself depends on WANT_EXPORTFS this was my > workaround to avoid a circular

Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm2

2005-01-30 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > +config WANT_EXPORTFS > + tristate > + select EXPORTFS > + > config EXPORTFS > tristate > - default NFSD > What's the difference between these two? bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: Possible bug in keyboard.c (2.6.10)

2005-01-30 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > That doesn't necessarilly mean we have to pack everything into a single > > structure. E.g. we present pci boards with multiple functions as multiple > > devices, the same can be done for input devices. More important is that > > kernel

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-30 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Ok, what about making some submenus to manage number of options, like in > the patch below? I'd rather move it to the bottom and the menus had no dependencies. Below is an alternative patch, which does a rather complete cleanup. bye, Roman ---

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Well, with the current Kconfig I can de-select INPUT and still select > serio and serio_raw and access my AUX port via /dev/psaux. I don't know > if anyone would really do it, but why not? > > Btw, what was the point of your patch? See the

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > That's fine, but why is it in the input menu? How do you suggest to make > > it selectable without selecting input and without messing the menu > > structure? > > Well, probably split input into sections, one of the options would be >

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > I can assure you that serio_raw driver _does not_ use input system - it is > implementation of pre 2.6 /dev/psaux interface giving you access to raw AUX > data. It was written so we can still use PS/2 devices for which we don't have > proper

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Saturday 29 January 2005 17:20, Roman Zippel wrote: > > --- linux-2.6.11.orig/drivers/input/serio/Kconfig   2005-01-29 > > 22:50:43.404946203 +0100 > > +++ linux-2.6.11/drivers/input/serio/Kconfig2005-01-29 &

[PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the input menu. Move SOUND_GAMEPORT to its user, so it's easier to set it to y, even if GAMEPORT is n. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- drivers/input/Kconfig |3 +++ drivers/input/gameport/Kconfig | 21 + d

[PATCH 5/8] Kconfig: cleanup various driver menus

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents various driver menus. Remove PARPORT_PC_CML1. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- mtd/Kconfig | 18 +- parport/Kconfig | 12 +++- video/Kconfig | 29 ++--- 3 files changed, 26 insertions(

[PATCH 8/8] Kconfig: cleanup USB menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the USB menu. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Kconfig | 18 ++ host/Kconfig| 18 -- storage/Kconfig |1 + 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/drivers/us

[PATCH 7/8] Kconfig: cleanup sound menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the sound menu. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- core/Kconfig |7 ++- oss/Kconfig |8 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/sound/oss/K

[PATCH 4/8] Kconfig: cleanup kernel hacking menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
MAGIC_SYSRQ menu entries. Remove unnecessary "default n" options. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- arch/i386/Kconfig.debug |3 +- init/Kconfig| 20 -- lib/Kconfig.debug | 53 +++-

[PATCH 3/8] Kconfig: cleanup cpufreq menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the cpufreq menu. Remove CPU_FREQ_TABLE as visible option and use select instead. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/Kconfig | 54 +++ drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig

[PATCH 1/8] Kconfig: cleanup ACPI menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the ACPI menu. Hide ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR when not needed. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Kconfig | 36 +--- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/drivers/acpi/K

[PATCH 2/8] Kconfig: cleanup bus options menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the bus options menu. Merge the two MCA menu entries. Remove unnecessary "default n" options. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- arch/i386/Kconfig|8 ++-- drivers/pci/Kconfig |2 +- drivers/pci/pcie/Kconfig |

[PATCH 0/8] Kconfig: cleanup the menu structure

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, The following patches cleans up some of the worst offenders, which mess up the kconfig menu structure. The patches apply to 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 and 2.6.11-rc2-bk7, the only exception is the one below. Andrew, I leave it to you what to do with it, maybe fold it directly into kgdb-ga.patch? bye,

Re: Possible bug in keyboard.c (2.6.10)

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > I'm very sorry about the locking, but the thing grew up in times of > kernel 2.0, which didn't require any locking. There are a few possible > races with device registration/unregistration, and it's on my list to > fix that, however under normal

Re: Possible bug in keyboard.c (2.6.10)

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: I'm very sorry about the locking, but the thing grew up in times of kernel 2.0, which didn't require any locking. There are a few possible races with device registration/unregistration, and it's on my list to fix that, however under normal

[PATCH 0/8] Kconfig: cleanup the menu structure

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, The following patches cleans up some of the worst offenders, which mess up the kconfig menu structure. The patches apply to 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 and 2.6.11-rc2-bk7, the only exception is the one below. Andrew, I leave it to you what to do with it, maybe fold it directly into kgdb-ga.patch? bye,

[PATCH 2/8] Kconfig: cleanup bus options menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the bus options menu. Merge the two MCA menu entries. Remove unnecessary default n options. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- arch/i386/Kconfig|8 ++-- drivers/pci/Kconfig |2 +- drivers/pci/pcie/Kconfig |2 +- drivers/pcmcia

[PATCH 1/8] Kconfig: cleanup ACPI menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the ACPI menu. Hide ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR when not needed. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Kconfig | 36 +--- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/drivers/acpi/Kconfig

[PATCH 3/8] Kconfig: cleanup cpufreq menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the cpufreq menu. Remove CPU_FREQ_TABLE as visible option and use select instead. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/Kconfig | 54 +++ drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig | 20

[PATCH 4/8] Kconfig: cleanup kernel hacking menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
MAGIC_SYSRQ menu entries. Remove unnecessary default n options. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- arch/i386/Kconfig.debug |3 +- init/Kconfig| 20 -- lib/Kconfig.debug | 53 +++- 3 files changed, 32

[PATCH 7/8] Kconfig: cleanup sound menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the sound menu. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- core/Kconfig |7 ++- oss/Kconfig |8 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/sound/oss/Kconfig

[PATCH 5/8] Kconfig: cleanup various driver menus

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents various driver menus. Remove PARPORT_PC_CML1. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- mtd/Kconfig | 18 +- parport/Kconfig | 12 +++- video/Kconfig | 29 ++--- 3 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 33

[PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the input menu. Move SOUND_GAMEPORT to its user, so it's easier to set it to y, even if GAMEPORT is n. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- drivers/input/Kconfig |3 +++ drivers/input/gameport/Kconfig | 21 + drivers/input

[PATCH 8/8] Kconfig: cleanup USB menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
This properly indents the USB menu. Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Kconfig | 18 ++ host/Kconfig| 18 -- storage/Kconfig |1 + 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) Index: linux-2.6.11/drivers/usb/host

Re: [PATCH 6/8] Kconfig: cleanup input menu

2005-01-29 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2005 17:20, Roman Zippel wrote: --- linux-2.6.11.orig/drivers/input/serio/Kconfig   2005-01-29 22:50:43.404946203 +0100 +++ linux-2.6.11/drivers/input/serio/Kconfig2005-01-29 22:56:42.549085439 +0100

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