Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:36:31 -0800 From: "Matt D. Robinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As soon as I finish writing raw write disk routines (not using kiobufs), we can _maybe_ get LKCD accepted one of these days, especially now that we don't have to build 'lcrash' against a kernel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:26:33 + (GMT) From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Actually, he's been quite specific. It's ok to have binary modules as > long as they conform to the interface defined in /proc/ksyms. What is completely unclear is if he has the authority to say

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:35:33 -0500 From: Michael Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sounds great; unfortunately, the core group has spoken out against a modular kernel. This is true; that's because a modular kernel means that interfaces have to be frozen in time, usually

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:43:14 -0500 From: Michael Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And how would a hypothetical Advanced Linux Kernel Project be different? Set aside the GKHI and the issue of binary-only hook modules; how would an "enterprise" fork be any different than RT or

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:39:04 + (GMT) From: Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I actually think Linus has been too loose/vague on modules. The official COPYING txt file in the tree contains an exception on linking to the kernel using syscalls from linus and the GPL.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:39:04 + (GMT) From: Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] I actually think Linus has been too loose/vague on modules. The official COPYING txt file in the tree contains an exception on linking to the kernel using syscalls from linus and the GPL. nothing

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:43:14 -0500 From: Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] And how would a hypothetical Advanced Linux Kernel Project be different? Set aside the GKHI and the issue of binary-only hook modules; how would an "enterprise" fork be any different than RT or

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:35:33 -0500 From: Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds great; unfortunately, the core group has spoken out against a modular kernel. This is true; that's because a modular kernel means that interfaces have to be frozen in time, usually forever.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:26:33 + (GMT) From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, he's been quite specific. It's ok to have binary modules as long as they conform to the interface defined in /proc/ksyms. What is completely unclear is if he has the authority to say that

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from a user-land programmer...

2000-11-07 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Ulrich Drepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 06 Nov 2000 10:50:37 -0800 > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction. Why are you talking such a nonsense? The claim was made that

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from a user-land programmer...

2000-11-07 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Ulrich Drepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06 Nov 2000 10:50:37 -0800 Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction. Why are you talking such a nonsense? The claim was made that pthreads

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from auser-land programmer...

2000-11-06 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: George Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I respectfully disagree that programs which don't surround some of the most common system calls with do { rv = __some_system_call__(...); }

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from auser-land programmer...

2000-11-06 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: George Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] I respectfully disagree that programs which don't surround some of the most common system calls with do { rv = __some_system_call__(...); }

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from a user-land

2000-11-03 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:44:17 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is that pthread_create (glibc 2.1.3, kernel 2.2.17 i686) is failing because, deep inside glibc somewhere, nanosleep() is returning EINTR. Sounds like it might be a bug in pthread_create although

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from a user-land

2000-11-03 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:44:17 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is that pthread_create (glibc 2.1.3, kernel 2.2.17 i686) is failing because, deep inside glibc somewhere, nanosleep() is returning EINTR. Sounds like it might be a bug in pthread_create although

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-02 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:53:55 -0700 From: Tim Riker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As is being discussed here, C99 has some replacements to the gcc syntax the kernel uses. I believe the C99 syntax will win in the near future, and thus the gcc syntax will have to be removed at some point.

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-02 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:31:51 -0700 From: Tim Riker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Me or Alan? I did not mean this as a dig. I feel strongly that one should have the choice here. I do not choose to enforce my beliefs on anyone else. I am suggesting only that others should provide

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-02 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:31:51 -0700 From: Tim Riker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me or Alan? I did not mean this as a dig. I feel strongly that one should have the choice here. I do not choose to enforce my beliefs on anyone else. I am suggesting only that others should provide the

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-02 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:53:55 -0700 From: Tim Riker [EMAIL PROTECTED] As is being discussed here, C99 has some replacements to the gcc syntax the kernel uses. I believe the C99 syntax will win in the near future, and thus the gcc syntax will have to be removed at some point. In

Re: 2.4.0-test10-pre6: Use of abs()

2000-11-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:19 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:14:34PM +0100, Martin Dalecki wrote: > Of corse right! BTW. There are tons of places where log2 is calculated > explicitly in kernel which should be replaced with the corresponding > built

Re: 2.4.0-test10-pre6: Use of abs()

2000-11-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:19 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:14:34PM +0100, Martin Dalecki wrote: Of corse right! BTW. There are tons of places where log2 is calculated explicitly in kernel which should be replaced with the corresponding built

Re: serial problems

2000-10-24 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:14:13 +0200 From: octave klaba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Can you actually give me some details of how your system "crashed"? It > certainly shouldn't have. Kermit will sometimes hang waiting for the > terminal to flush if it's enabled hardware flow control

Re: serial problems

2000-10-24 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:14:13 +0200 From: octave klaba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you actually give me some details of how your system "crashed"? It certainly shouldn't have. Kermit will sometimes hang waiting for the terminal to flush if it's enabled hardware flow control and

Re: tty_[un]register_devfs putting 3K structures on the stack

2000-10-06 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:01:34 -0500 From: Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tty_register_devfs and tty_unregister_devfs both declare "struct tty_struct" locals. According to gdb: (gdb) p sizeof(struct tty_struct) $20 = 3084 This eats up most of a 4K page, and on UML

Re: tty_[un]register_devfs putting 3K structures on the stack

2000-10-06 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:01:34 -0500 From: Jeff Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] tty_register_devfs and tty_unregister_devfs both declare "struct tty_struct" locals. According to gdb: (gdb) p sizeof(struct tty_struct) $20 = 3084 This eats up most of a 4K page, and on UML

Re: reading 1 hardsector size, not one block size

2000-09-30 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:16:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Hedrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Basically you can de-stroke a drive with what you let the OS/FS report. Once this is done there is no way any FS can get to the stuff beyond what it knows about. I'm not sure what you mean by

Re: reading 1 hardsector size, not one block size

2000-09-30 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:16:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Hedrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically you can de-stroke a drive with what you let the OS/FS report. Once this is done there is no way any FS can get to the stuff beyond what it knows about. I'm not sure what you mean by

Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?

2000-09-29 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Sat, 30 Sep 2000 04:10:59 +0200 From: Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you really think that explicitly supporting broken distributions (redhat 7.0 comes with a experimental snapshot of gcc which is neither binary compatible to 2.95 nor to 3.0, cutting binary

Re: reading 1 hardsector size, not one block size

2000-09-29 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:49:04 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is going to be a continuing problem for non-Unix file systems like NTFS and NWFS that rely on the ability to read and write variable length sector runs. It's not just non-Unix file

Re: ext2 caches

2000-09-29 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:24:01 +0200 From: Frederic Magniette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We would like to do some operations on a ext2 disk while it is mounted read-only. The problem is that our operations have no effects because everithing is cached. Is it possible to shrink

Re: reading 1 hardsector size, not one block size

2000-09-29 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:49:04 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is going to be a continuing problem for non-Unix file systems like NTFS and NWFS that rely on the ability to read and write variable length sector runs. It's not just non-Unix file

Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?

2000-09-29 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Sat, 30 Sep 2000 04:10:59 +0200 From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you really think that explicitly supporting broken distributions (redhat 7.0 comes with a experimental snapshot of gcc which is neither binary compatible to 2.95 nor to 3.0, cutting binary

Re: [2.4][2.2] Bug: accept discards socket options/O_NONBLOCK

2000-09-15 Thread \&quot;Theodore Y. Ts'o\" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matthias Andree
Date:Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:01:25 +0200 From: Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BUG DESCRIPTION: (This is for IPv4, someone would have to check IPv6 as well). The socket flag O_NONBLOCK is _NOT_ properly inherited through an accept(2) call, in spite of what

Re: [2.4][2.2] Bug: accept discards socket options/O_NONBLOCK

2000-09-15 Thread \Theodore Y. Ts'o\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthias Andree
Date:Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:01:25 +0200 From: Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] BUG DESCRIPTION: (This is for IPv4, someone would have to check IPv6 as well). The socket flag O_NONBLOCK is _NOT_ properly inherited through an accept(2) call, in spite of what socket(7)

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() doesnot provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:06:24 +0200 (MEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) My suggestion is indeed effectivly (almost) doubling the inode size. However, it provides an upgrade path, where you can double-boot with a kernel that DOESN"T know about the inodes. The 2.2

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:24 -0700 From: Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. First of all, having a flag day where everyone switches to BK just isn't a realistic expectation, even if the license wasn't an issue. Things just don't work

Re: [PATCH] Re: [BUG] PCMCIA CardBus problems in 2.4.0-test8

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:17:01 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I ran with the idea, and created the attached patch, against 2.4.0-test8. It converts serial.c to the new PCI API (quite compactly, I might add) It should be possible with this patch to now hotplug

Re: Quantum lct08 & Promise Ultra66

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:34:42 +0400 Just have compiled 2.4.0-test8 today... Nothing interesting Everything goes the same way as 2 test releases before... All my devices are detected right, but... :-( Kernel panic again at the file

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() doesnot provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:12:35 +0200 (MEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) The "right" way to do this is to have a "this spot is in use, but you don't understand it" indication for an inode (*). The "expansion ptr" can then normally point to the directly following inode,

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:03:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For the timestamps, yes, but inode caching will take most of that hit. After all, the only time stat() reads from disk is when the inode has completely fallen out of the cache. For commonly

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:09:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Would it perhaps make sense to use one of these last 'free' fields as a pointer to an 'inode entension'? If you still want ext2fs to be able to accommodate new projects and ideas, then it

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:20:42 -0400 (EDT) The ext2 inode has 6 obviously free bytes, 6 that are only used on filesystems marked as Hurd-type, and 8 that seem to be claimed by competing security and EA projects. So, being

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Albert D. Cahalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:20:42 -0400 (EDT) The ext2 inode has 6 obviously free bytes, 6 that are only used on filesystems marked as Hurd-type, and 8 that seem to be claimed by competing security and EA projects. So, being

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:09:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would it perhaps make sense to use one of these last 'free' fields as a pointer to an 'inode entension'? If you still want ext2fs to be able to accommodate new projects and ideas, then it seems

Re: Quantum lct08 Promise Ultra66

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:34:42 +0400 Just have compiled 2.4.0-test8 today... Nothing interesting Everything goes the same way as 2 test releases before... All my devices are detected right, but... :-( Kernel panic again at the file

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() doesnot provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:06:24 +0200 (MEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) My suggestion is indeed effectivly (almost) doubling the inode size. However, it provides an upgrade path, where you can double-boot with a kernel that DOESN"T know about the inodes. The 2.2

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-14 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:24 -0700 From: Larry McVoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. First of all, having a flag day where everyone switches to BK just isn't a realistic expectation, even if the license wasn't an issue. Things just don't work

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:35:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You might be able to steal a couple of bytes and then rewrite ext2fs to mask those out from the 'i_generation' field, but it would mean that you could no longer boot your old 2.2.16 kernel

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Dunlap, Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:17:55 -0700 I appreciate Alan and you doing the kernel Status/TODO lists, but I think that you ought to simplify it for yourself at least (not that this would help Linus) by having maintainers do it instead of

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:14:57 +0200 (MEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) Today we fixed a problem in a driver we maintain here. We should've gone ahead and generate the patch and queued it for Linus. However, in reality we'd like the complaining customer to test the

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:56:22 +0100 (BST) From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > suggest a unique identifier for your patch? Humans are usually better > at picking sensible names than a machine, and in discussions, it is > better to refer to 'ide-foobar-fix3' than KP7562

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:54:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't forget that 2^20 > 10^6, hence if you really want units of microseconds, you actually only need to save 3 bytes worth of data per timestamp. For the purposes of NFS, however the

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 02:27:07 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rsync [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/torvalds/src/linux \ ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/LIVE/linux would be the real helper for people like me whose only real issue now is bothering

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 03:30:39 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 03:18:14 -0700 (PDT) How exactly does a system to tracking patches and bugs/fixes (not to mention helping

Re: Update Linux 2.4 Status/TODO list

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:03:39 +0200 From: Andries Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 01:56:39AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 8. Fix Exists But Isnt Merged ... > 9. To Do > * Mount of new fs over existing mointpoint should return an error >

Re: Update Linux 2.4 Status/TODO list

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:55:55 -0700 From: David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please add 'APM resume returns the machine to the first tty, crashes X' This appeared w/ test8. If this is intended, I'd be very happy to know if so and I can write in to xfree86 about it. If not

Re: Update Linux 2.4 Status/TODO list

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:46:00 +0200 From: Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How can I submit a bug report to be added to this list? I *try* to follow bug reports sent to Linux-kernel, but if you want to be sure, send it directly to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). (And now for the

Re: Update Linux 2.4 Status/TODO list

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:37:57 -0700 From: David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 4. Boot Time Failures > > > > * Use PCI DMA 'lost interrupt' problem with some hw [which ?] (NEC > >Versa LX with PIIX tuning) > > If this is a rare version of the BX/LX that has a

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:54:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget that 2^20 10^6, hence if you really want units of microseconds, you actually only need to save 3 bytes worth of data per timestamp. For the purposes of NFS, however the

Re: NFS locking bug -- limited mtime resolution means nfs_lock() does not provide coherency guarantee

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:35:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Trond Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might be able to steal a couple of bytes and then rewrite ext2fs to mask those out from the 'i_generation' field, but it would mean that you could no longer boot your old 2.2.16 kernel without

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 03:30:39 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 03:18:14 -0700 (PDT) How exactly does a system to tracking patches and bugs/fixes (not to mention helping Linus

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 02:27:07 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] rsync [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/torvalds/src/linux \ ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/LIVE/linux would be the real helper for people like me whose only real issue now is bothering

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-13 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: "Dunlap, Randy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:17:55 -0700 I appreciate Alan and you doing the kernel Status/TODO lists, but I think that you ought to simplify it for yourself at least (not that this would help Linus) by having maintainers do it instead of

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:23:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Igmar Palsenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No, not true. The mixing into the entropy pool uses a twisted LFSR, but > all outputs from the pool (to either /dev/random or /dev/urandom) > filters the output through SHA-1 as a

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:56:12 + From: Pravir Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i agree that the yarrow generator does place some faith on the crypto cipher and the accumulator uses a hash, but current /dev/random places faith on a crc and urandom uses a hash. No, not true. The

Re: [BUG] threaded processes get stuck in rt_sigsuspend/fillonedir/exit_notify

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:27:30 -0700 From: David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've told Linus several times about this problems but he puts out one > test release after the other without this fixed. This is kinda important, I run DNS tools which are threaded amongst

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:51:20 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I support source level in the kernel. Based on Andi Klein's review, I have grabbed ext2utils and am looking at a minimal int 0x13 interface to load files into memory. hardest problem here for Linux

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > Thanks Ted. I know, but a kernel debugger is one of those nasty pieaces > of software that can quickly get out of sync if it's maintained > separately from the tree -- the speed at which changes occur in Linux > would render it a very difficult

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:08:59 + From: Pravir Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been working to change the implementation of /dev/random over to the Yarrow-160a algorithm created by Bruce Schneier and John Kelsey. We've been working on parallel development for Linux and

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:08:59 + From: Pravir Chandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been working to change the implementation of /dev/random over to the Yarrow-160a algorithm created by Bruce Schneier and John Kelsey. We've been working on parallel development for Linux and

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Thanks Ted. I know, but a kernel debugger is one of those nasty pieaces of software that can quickly get out of sync if it's maintained separately from the tree -- the speed at which changes occur in Linux would render it a very difficult project

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:51:20 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I support source level in the kernel. Based on Andi Klein's review, I have grabbed ext2utils and am looking at a minimal int 0x13 interface to load files into memory. hardest problem here for Linux is

Re: [BUG] threaded processes get stuck in rt_sigsuspend/fillonedir/exit_notify

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:27:30 -0700 From: David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've told Linus several times about this problems but he puts out one test release after the other without this fixed. This is kinda important, I run DNS tools which are threaded amongst numerous

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:56:12 + From: Pravir Chandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] i agree that the yarrow generator does place some faith on the crypto cipher and the accumulator uses a hash, but current /dev/random places faith on a crc and urandom uses a hash. No, not true. The

Re: Using Yarrow in /dev/random

2000-09-12 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:23:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Igmar Palsenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, not true. The mixing into the entropy pool uses a twisted LFSR, but all outputs from the pool (to either /dev/random or /dev/urandom) filters the output through SHA-1 as a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-05 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:43:47 +0100 (BST) From: Alex Buell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Only, with the former, I get to restart the application everytime it > croaks, with the latter (modules excluded) I have to reboot. This is > much more time consuming and means you really have

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-05 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:43:47 +0100 (BST) From: Alex Buell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only, with the former, I get to restart the application everytime it croaks, with the latter (modules excluded) I have to reboot. This is much more time consuming and means you really have to

Re: 2.4.0-test7 stallion.c is in the wrong directory.

2000-09-04 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:42:57 +0200 In test7 the stallion.c serial driver is in the drivers/media/video directory. This means that it won't compile and that compilation will break if the Stallion driver is enabled. Could this

Re: thread group comments

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Ulrich Drepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:01 Sep 2000 14:52:28 -0700 1st Problem: One signal handler process process-wide What is handled correctly now is sending signals to the group. Also that every thread has its mask. But there must be exactly one signal

Re: [OT] Re: Press release - here we go again!

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 01 Sep 2000 08:47:04 -0700 From: Stephen Satchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5) Even better would be to obtain the services of a PR firm used to dealing with high-tech questions -- if you would like a list of potential sponsors I can poll the IPG to see who might be

Re: 512 byte magic multiplier (was: Large File support and blocks)

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:49:14 +0200 Curiously, this field is measured in 512 byte units, giving a 2TB Ext2 filesize limit. That's starting to look uncomfortably small - I can easily imagine a single database file wanting to be

Re: Serial driver - overrun possible to overrun flip buffer? (2.4.0-test7)

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:23:39 +0100 (BST) At the marked line (! - line 647), what if flip.count is equal to TTY_FLIPBUF_SIZE? Surely we're writing to a character outside the flag_buf_ptr array? If that is the case, should we not move this

Re: Small bugfix in ext2/namei.c

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date:Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:47:44 +0200 (MESZ) From: "Dr. Michael Weller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry, I've no idea about the ext2 and fs implementation. However did you read the comment below and convince yourself that 'err' is always set correctly? I looked at it and was

Re: Serial driver - overrun possible to overrun flip buffer? (2.4.0-test7)

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:23:39 +0100 (BST) At the marked line (! - line 647), what if flip.count is equal to TTY_FLIPBUF_SIZE? Surely we're writing to a character outside the flag_buf_ptr array? If that is the case, should we not move this

Re: 512 byte magic multiplier (was: Large File support and blocks)

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Daniel Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:49:14 +0200 Curiously, this field is measured in 512 byte units, giving a 2TB Ext2 filesize limit. That's starting to look uncomfortably small - I can easily imagine a single database file wanting to be

Re: thread group comments

2000-09-01 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Ulrich Drepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:01 Sep 2000 14:52:28 -0700 1st Problem: One signal handler process process-wide What is handled correctly now is sending signals to the group. Also that every thread has its mask. But there must be exactly one signal

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